General V`Deers

[RatWithGun]

<p>Since the anoucement of Rise of Kunark as the next everquest 2 expansion, I was wondering what happened to one of the most hated and feared npc's to all who experienced in The Overthere, i am talking about the legendary General V`Deers.</p>

[Cusashorn]

Who? No, Seriously. Never heard of him.

[Jait]

<p>He was an NPC that would aggro from 6 miles away =p  I'm more curious if those massive rock creatures will still be in the area.</p><p>I'm fairly sure he was a homage to the Empire Strikes Back character General Veers too.</p>

[Kryussius]

<p>I could be remembering wrong, but I think he wandered the Overthere with the dragoons at night.</p><p> *edit - apparently I was.  No big rock creatures in OT.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Jait]

Kryussius@Lucan DLere wrote: <blockquote><p>I could be remembering wrong, but I think he wandered the Overthere with the dragoons at night.</p><p> *edit - apparently I was.  No big rock creatures in OT.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p></blockquote><p> No, you're correct.  And here's the Rock creatures I mentioned.</p><p>http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=4118</p>

[Kryussius]

OH!  Okay, now I know what you're talking about.  I'd forgotten the golems entirely. 

[IrishWonder]

<p>Bah, my most feared NPC in Kunark was</p><p><a href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=4115" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s...h.shtml?id=4115</a></p><p>Can't count the number of times I'd be braving a red Sarnak, and one of these guys would walk over a hill and aggro. They hit like a mack truck, and were impossible to outrun. Establish pet aggro, then run for the wall <img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Can't begin to describe how happy I am to see these guys finally tamed.</p>

[Ama]

<p>Sadly EQOA never introduced the Iksar nor Kunark so this will be a bit of an experience for me.  However with the shattering and the rending occuring i'm wondering what has been shifted/moved around.  </p><p>There are a couple of places that I am wondering about and if they have a connection to EQ2.  One of them is the Geomancer's Citadel which was always a bit of a mystery to me.  Another was that J'thral castle thing that was past the frontiers area in the darkened area.  </p><p>It deffinately seems like we mortals are giving the finger to the gods and rebuilding our lands questing for them once more.  Wonder if we will get smited once more or if we will continue on this destructive path until the end of time? </p>

[Vyrance]

im just happy that Karnor's Castle, Sebilis, and Trakanon are going to be back in the game.  Nagafen doesn't hold a candle to this guy <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Kryussius]

<cite>IrishWonder wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Bah, my most feared NPC in Kunark was</p><p><a href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=4115" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s...h.shtml?id=4115</a></p><p>Can't count the number of times I'd be braving a red Sarnak, and one of these guys would walk over a hill and aggro. They hit like a mack truck, and were impossible to outrun. Establish pet aggro, then run for the wall <img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Can't begin to describe how happy I am to see these guys finally tamed.</p></blockquote><p>HA!</p><p>Man I hated those things. </p><p>I can't count how much time I spent in the Overthere trying to grind peacefully when I'd get mowed over by one of those buggers.</p><p><b><i>"It deffinately seems like we mortals are giving the finger to the gods and rebuilding our lands questing for them once more.  Wonder if we will get smited once more or if we will continue on this destructive path until the end of time?"</i></b></p><p>The main reason the gods left was because mortals had grown in power enough to start slapping them around the cosmos.  The only reason they're coming back is because they left in a huff, and now see that mortal-kind has managed to start to thrive again without them, which goes against what they'd hope would happen.  Mortals weren't scraping and begging to the sky for their return.  This tweaked their collective ego, so now they're "blessing" us with their return.</p><p>Bah.</p><p>Send them back.  Mortal-kind has been getting along fine without 'em.</p>

[Korelen]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>Who? No, Seriously. Never heard of him.</blockquote> You never heard of V'Deers?  Wow, he was one of the most annoying NPCs that patrolled the road around Skyfire ramp.  I used to pull with my Monk for our xp group, and you always had to be on the look out for this mob.  Fun times! <a href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=4221" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s...h.shtml?id=4221</a>

[Rad]

/shout Goons to Skyfire!

[Ori]

General V`Deers was to good characters in the Overthere what Sergeant Slate Was to low lvl evil charaters in the East Commonllands.  Once a Dark Elf Cleric rezzed me when VD'eers was standing on my corpse.  Believe it or not I got my second rez from someone else. 

[Illmarr]

<cite>RatWithGun wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Since the anoucement of Rise of Kunark as the next everquest 2 expansion, I was wondering what happened to one of the most hated and feared npc's to all who experienced in The Overthere, i am talking about the legendary General V`Deers.</p></blockquote> Anytime I log into EQ1 these days I make it a point to go to OT and slaughter the whole Dragoon patrol for payback

[dalaorn_eq2]

The developers need to be willing to add some spontaneous, unpredictable danger to zones if we're to see V'Deers again. The last EQ2 mob I can think of that would roam zone-wide and take hapless lowbies by surprise was some named heroic, slow-flying griffon in Commonlands back when I was still a lowbie.  And I haven't seen that griffon in forever (granted, I don't spend much time in Commonlands anymore, but still -- does this griffon still exist ingame, after the zone revamp?). Otherwise, general EQ2 zone design has been too neatly organized, with specific types of monsters staying pretty much in their designated comfort spots with short aggro-reset leashes.  Bah!  I want to see V'Deers roaming around the entire Overthere again with his band of dragoons -- and some new dangers added to all the major pre-RoK outdoor zones too.  

[Illmarr]

<cite>dalaorn_eq2 wrote:</cite><blockquote>The developers need to be willing to add some spontaneous, unpredictable danger to zones if we're to see V'Deers again. The last EQ2 mob I can think of that would roam zone-wide and take hapless lowbies by surprise was some named heroic, slow-flying griffon in Commonlands back when I was still a lowbie.  And I haven't seen that griffon in forever (granted, I don't spend much time in Commonlands anymore, but still -- does this griffon still exist ingame, after the zone revamp?). Otherwise, general EQ2 zone design has been too neatly organized, with specific types of monsters staying pretty much in their designated comfort spots with short aggro-reset leashes.  Bah!  I want to see V'Deers roaming around the entire Overthere again with his band of dragoons -- and some new dangers added to all the major pre-RoK outdoor zones too.   </blockquote><p>Zone-sweepers FTW!</p><p>Sounds like you were already gone from EQ when Omens of War was released, but there were a couple of zones, Walls of Slaughter and Ruined City of Dranik that had fun zone-sweepers in them that left trails of carnage in their wake among the exp grinding population for quite a while after release </p>

[RaphaNissi]

<cite>dalaorn_eq2 wrote:</cite><blockquote>The developers need to be willing to add some spontaneous, unpredictable danger to zones if we're to see V'Deers again. The last EQ2 mob I can think of that would roam zone-wide and take hapless lowbies by surprise was some named heroic, slow-flying griffon in Commonlands back when I was still a lowbie.  And I haven't seen that griffon in forever (granted, I don't spend much time in Commonlands anymore, but still -- does this griffon still exist ingame, after the zone revamp?). Otherwise, general EQ2 zone design has been too neatly organized, with specific types of monsters staying pretty much in their designated comfort spots with short aggro-reset leashes.  Bah!  I want to see V'Deers roaming around the entire Overthere again with his band of dragoons -- and some new dangers added to all the major pre-RoK outdoor zones too.   </blockquote>Grimfeather and yep, saw him just today <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Illmarr]

<cite>RaphaNissi wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>dalaorn_eq2 wrote:</cite><blockquote>The developers need to be willing to add some spontaneous, unpredictable danger to zones if we're to see V'Deers again. The last EQ2 mob I can think of that would roam zone-wide and take hapless lowbies by surprise was some named heroic, slow-flying griffon in Commonlands back when I was still a lowbie.  And I haven't seen that griffon in forever (granted, I don't spend much time in Commonlands anymore, but still -- does this griffon still exist ingame, after the zone revamp?). Otherwise, general EQ2 zone design has been too neatly organized, with specific types of monsters staying pretty much in their designated comfort spots with short aggro-reset leashes.  Bah!  I want to see V'Deers roaming around the entire Overthere again with his band of dragoons -- and some new dangers added to all the major pre-RoK outdoor zones too.   </blockquote>Grimfeather and yep, saw him just today <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote><p> Actually Grimfeather roamed North Karana. It was just a basic griffon that spawned in Commonlands when players killed all the bixies. Not sure if the bixies and griffon survived the revamp either</p><p><i>Edit: Reading comprehension > me. I could have sworn that the quoted post was talking about EQ1</i></p>

[Draska]

Grimfeather is part of a AQ and i believe also a HQ

[Tweian-Tree-Hugg]

No thats Bloodtalon, Grimfeather is a epic griffon afaik.

[Mareth]

<cite>Tweian-Tree-Hugger wrote:</cite><blockquote>No thats Bloodtalon, Grimfeather is a epic griffon afaik.</blockquote>Nah, that's Gustfeather in TS. Grimfeather is level ca 25 heroic in CL. But come on, as far as epic aggro goes, Doomsquall has got to be the worst. I remember training to RoV, doing a dungeon run there, zoning out, and he was sitting right outside killing everything...

[Tweian-Tree-Hugg]

<p><a href="http://eq2i.com/articles/Grimfeather" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eq2i.com/articles/Grimfeather</a></p><p> I rest my case. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Mareth]

Doh <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I was so sure that was Grimfeather my nub warden soloed the other day. Guess not :/

[Draska]

*nods* Ahh my mistake

[Wilde_Night]

<p>Gustfeather is in Commonlands.  Bloodtalon is in Thundering Steppes.. because you have to find and kill him for a Heritage Quest.</p>

[steelbadger]

Gustfeather. There's also Doomsqual in Thundering Steppes and some really long pathing x2 wolf in Rivervale if you're looking for slowly wandering death...

[RatWithGun]

Sorry for the Necro post but just wondered if this post inspired a dev to add the General to Kunark as a heroic named in the wastes or was it planned all along <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Cusashorn]

<p>He's as famous for slaughtering players as Holly Windstalker.</p>

[troodon]

<p>....</p><p>Does that mean you were joking in your first post in this thread, on the first page?</p>

[Grimdeath]

For those that might not have seen him in RoK yet, General V'Deers wanders between the Danak Shipyards, up the path almost to the intersection of the other road leading to Ganak's Battlement and the Duras faction mobs.He is a 83^^^ heroic (from memory) and has kicked my [Removed for Content] already - I was busy fighting those damned rhinos and cockatrices and he kinda slyly walked up and aggroed. I've tried soloing him since (<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />) and got him to about 85%. hehe..I agree with the others that said that zone-wide wandering mobs FTW. I think it's high-time SOE reinstituted this into the game. Hell, why not the ole' wandering Epic mob too?

[Faymar]

<cite>Grimdeath wrote:</cite><blockquote>For those that might not have seen him in RoK yet, General V'Deers wanders between the Danak Shipyards, up the path almost to the intersection of the other road leading to Ganak's Battlement and the Duras faction mobs.He is a 83^^^ heroic (from memory) and has kicked my [I cannot control my vocabulary] already - I was busy fighting those damned rhinos and cockatrices and he kinda slyly walked up and aggroed. I've tried soloing him since (<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />) and got him to about 85%. hehe..I agree with the others that said that zone-wide wandering mobs FTW. I think it's high-time SOE reinstituted this into the game. Hell, why not the ole' wandering Epic mob too?</blockquote>He jumped me when I was first explorting the zone. I was running along, then I was dead. I looked around and saw him and thought "ARGH, not again!" It was a few seconds before my brain caught up and I realised they'd brought him back from EQ1.I laughed. I'll laugh more when I'm big enough to chain kill him, though.

[Gukkor2]

<cite>Kryussius@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>IrishWonder wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Bah, my most feared NPC in Kunark was</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=4115" target="_blank">http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s...h.shtml?id=4115</a></p><p>Can't count the number of times I'd be braving a red Sarnak, and one of these guys would walk over a hill and aggro. They hit like a mack truck, and were impossible to outrun. Establish pet aggro, then run for the wall <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>Can't begin to describe how happy I am to see these guys finally tamed.</p></blockquote><p>HA!</p><p>Man I hated those things. </p><p>I can't count how much time I spent in the Overthere trying to grind peacefully when I'd get mowed over by one of those buggers.</p><p><b><i>"It deffinately seems like we mortals are giving the finger to the gods and rebuilding our lands questing for them once more.  Wonder if we will get smited once more or if we will continue on this destructive path until the end of time?"</i></b></p><p>The main reason the gods left was because mortals had grown in power enough to start slapping them around the cosmos.  The only reason they're coming back is because they left in a huff, and now see that mortal-kind has managed to start to thrive again without them, which goes against what they'd hope would happen.  Mortals weren't scraping and begging to the sky for their return.  This tweaked their collective ego, so now they're "blessing" us with their return.</p><p>Bah.</p><p>Send them back.  Mortal-kind has been getting along fine without 'em.</p></blockquote>I don't know.  I'm not one to think the gods are quite the incompetant morons many mortals seem to think they are.  I'll bet the truth is more complex than wounded egos.

[Cusashorn]

<cite>troodon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>....</p><p>Does that mean you were joking in your first post in this thread, on the first page?</p></blockquote><p>I knew someone would bring this up, but it still holds true. I had completely forgotten that name entirely. As soon as I saw his EQ character, everything came right back to me though.</p><p>...You see. I was never actually a victim. He never killed me because I'm a monk and didn't hang out in the Overthere too much.</p>

[Kander]

<p>I was a big fan of the oringinal Overthere, and remembered V'Deer's days of terror well! In my attempt to add a good amount of nastalgia to Jarsath Wastes without choking people with it, he is one of the very few original NPCs left over from the old days! The vengeful ghost that wanders his old patrol paths, 500 years later,  is a lot tougher then the original! </p><p>There are two other NPCs from the original Overthere around Danak and outside! Can anyone name them? You would have to be a true fan of the original! I'll have to think of a prize for who ever can name them! =P</p>

[Andric_D]

utandar rizndown was one of them. not sure of the other but was thinking sergeant zildrax but cant be sure. was a goody so didnt know overthere that well//editjust remebered - the ghostly watch sergeant - grolj or something - was in original wasnt he?

[Eriol]

One is <a href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=4222" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Captain Rottgrime</a> (when you need to spend time figuring out how to even PULL a mob for the Magician Epic, the names stick in your head, and he was the NPC for the Overthere Hammer quest too).  I'm PRETTY SURE that he's in the new one.  I didn't notice any others, though I believe you when you say two.  My first instinct might be a named chokodai or something, but I really wouldn't know on that score.

[ThelvynD]

Yeah I remember Utandar Rizndown and Watch Sergeant Grolj. Rizndown was a merchant there. And while your in JW if you head up to Skyfire there's Eldrig tho... he's now younger when Eldrig the Old was in EQ1 and I'm guessing Ebonmaw is related to Enrid Ebonclaw.

[Rainmare]

there's the Megalodon in the waters at th dock.

[Drager]

ive never played eQ1 and have not had the "pleasure" of meeting any free roaming mobs. but i really like the idea a sort of orderly chaos would be very cool. the idea of counter faction armies roaming the same area and some times converging in combat would be in my opinion a marvalous sightwell thats my 2 copper

[Rainmare]

there were alot of free roamers in EQ1 kunark.. the General, Gorenaire, I think Severilous was free roaming in Trak's teeth...several in Skyfire, like Eldwing.my personal favorite roamer was Gore. since she literally ran across the zone once to kill my GF because she was wearing an illusion. let the rest of us alone. it was a good laugh.

[Kander]

<p>Watch Sergeant Grolj, Utander Rizndown and Captain Rottgrime are all correct! I forgot about the Watch Sergeant, good call! So with good ole V'Deers, that is four actually.</p><p>Utander had passed on but Necromancer Corporiss decide to re-enlist him indefinitely.</p><p>Ebonmaw is a turtle and no relation to Enrid Ebonclaw. </p>

[DreamerClou]

<cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>there were alot of free roamers in EQ1 kunark.. the General, Gorenaire, I think Severilous was free roaming in Trak's teeth...several in Skyfire, like Eldwing.my personal favorite roamer was Gore. since she literally ran across the zone once to kill my GF because she was wearing an illusion. let the rest of us alone. it was a good laugh.</blockquote>My two favorite eq1 free roamers were definetily the griffin in East Commonlands and Lockjaw in Oasis.

[teddyboy4]

My absolute favorite wandering mobs in EQ were the notorious pair of Ogres that roamed the Butcherblock Mountains. Of course I am referring to the legendary pair of Ogres that tormented many a lowbie Dwarf, the renowned, and as I understand the now Fabled, Zarchoomi and Cornflunk!!!!

[Cusashorn]

^ Corflunk, not Corn :p

[troodon]

The Spore Guardian in Innothule was the worst for me.  One minute you're enjoying yourself slaughtering frogs the next your character is spinning and you're freaking out trying to run to the Guk zoneline before he can finish the job.

[RockLee]

Aww, who could forget good ol' <a href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=438" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sergeant Slate</a>. He was the worst one for me by far. Hunting things in East Commonlands and here he comes, and kills the mobs you are trying to kill. He isnt really the same as the other roaming mobs cause he didnt come after me, but he did my mobs!!

[teddyboy4]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>^ Corflunk, not Corn :p</blockquote>Heh, you don't wanna know how long I was playing under the assumption that his name was actually Cornflake. Then, one day I saw them and it dawned on me that I wasn't seeing Cornflake, but Corflunk!!! Cornflunk is my commemorating my newbness, while simultaneously acknowledging that I got his name wrong.So, yes, while his name technically is Corflunk, to me he'll always be Cornflunk <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" />

[Seolta]

Don't forget a certain Dark Elf in North Ro...

[Beghard]

Yes they need to add some more free roaming mass murdering mobs to the game. In ALL the xpacs. V'Deers has gotten me ocne so far in RoK. I was doing some stone(w/e) grind quests and he snuk up on. I was dead before i knew what hit me and had to chek my loggs to figure out why I had died.We need more mobs like Doomsquall in this game!