Rise of Kunark - November 13th 2007

[Rocc]

<p>Check out the link. <a href="http://everquest2.station.sony.com/expansions/riseofkunark/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Everquest 2 Rise of Kunark</a></p><p> <img src="http://everquest2.station.sony.com/expansions/riseofkunark/flash/conceptArt/rok_concept_lrg_1.jpg" border="0"></p><p><img src="http://everquest2.station.sony.com/expansions/riseofkunark/flash/wallpapers/rok_3_wallpaper1024.jpg" border="0"></p>

[Galithdor]

<p>Yeah...maybe this should get put up as a sticky so noone asks again lol</p><p>and that Sarnak concept art is the coolest one ive seen <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Cusashorn]

Dude, there are 6 threads already talking about this.

[Cusashorn]

<p>Although, I must admit, this concept art of Trak'anon is cool.</p><p><img src="http://everquest2.station.sony.com/expansions/riseofkunark/flash/conceptArt/rok_concept_lrg_4.jpg" border="0"></p>

[Rocc]

There were non when I made this thread. Besides mine has pics! <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Rocc]

I dont like the head and mouth of Trak'Anon. It looks too EQ1ish. Woushi looks cool as hell so I hope they go more in line with a ferocious looking dragon than the art appears.

[Cusashorn]

<p>Hmm... Interesting.</p><p>The Sarnak city will be an entirely NEUTRAL city. All neutral races can start there.</p><p>Lets see...</p><p>Sarnak City = Neutral</p><p>Neriak = Evil</p><p>We're going to need a city that only the good races can start in next. Kelethin doesn't count since Gnomes and Half Elves are neutral, and Halflings cant start there.</p>

[Allisia]

Yeah, I never liked Trakanon's head either. It always looked off, but I can't put my finger on why.

[Rocc]

Well it kinda looks like a [Removed for Content] off duck billed platypuss to be honest. I hate it.

[Mirander_1]

It does look like Trak, but wasn't he a bit more...corpsey in EQlive?

[Cusashorn]

Yeah, I'm hoping the concept art is just that.

[rakki]

I plan to be in conan or G&H by the time this comes out so I could care less.. But I've said before raising the level cap is such a stupid idea... Just implement more 70 content and add experimentation to crafted wares.. I don't want an endless level grind in a game when theres already a spell and item grind once maxed at 70..

[lucknutshell]

<p>November 13th? I remembered EoF releases in November 14th, is it just a coincidence or intentioned?</p><p>BTW, the website it mentioned that RoK is an All-in-one expansion in retail pack like EoF, is it means we old players need spend more unnecessary money on it just because it is an All-in-one expansion pack (like EoF, we need pay 10 dollars more than KoS/DoF just because it is an All-in-one package).</p>

[rakki]

<cite>lucknutshell wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>November 13th? I remembered EoF releases in November 14th, is it just a coincidence or intentioned?</p><p>BTW, the website it mentioned that RoK is an All-in-one expansion in retail pack like EoF, is it means we old players need spend more unnecessary money on it?</p></blockquote>Ya man, this is sony your dealing with lol...

[Sphiriah]

Wasn't Trakanon undead in EQ1?

[Rolande']

 From the interview I listened too, they said they would have both options... so no we shouldnt have to buy it all.

[Rocc]

<cite>rakki wrote:</cite><blockquote>I plan to be in conan or G&H by the time this comes out so I could care less.. But I've said before raising the level cap is such a stupid idea... Just implement more 70 content and add experimentation to crafted wares.. I don't want an endless level grind in a game when theres already a spell and item grind once maxed at 70.. </blockquote>This is a MMO that will be 3 years old when it's released. MMO's need progression and if they remain stagnent they become bottom shelf material and people abandon it kinda like they did Diablo 2. We needed this level raise but since your leaving then it dont matter, right?

[Kri]

<cite>lucknutshell wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>November 13th? I remembered EoF releases in November 14th, is it just a coincidence or intentioned?</p><p>BTW, the website it mentioned that RoK is an All-in-one expansion in retail pack like EoF, is it means we old players need spend more unnecessary money on it just because it is an All-in-one expansion pack (like EoF, we need pay 10 dollars more than KoS/DoF just because it is an All-in-one package).</p></blockquote><p>Intentional <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>RoK will be available as a digital download too. The other expansions won't be included in that so chances are, it's cheaper. But lots of people buy the boxed set anyway to save them a whole lot of time if they ever have to reinstall plus there is usually some nifty gadget included in the boxed version. </p>

[Cusashorn]

<cite>lucknutshell wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>November 13th? I remembered EoF releases in November 14th, is it just a coincidence or intentioned?</p></blockquote> Intentional that they're taking the entire year to make it. Coincidence that the 13th is a Teusday, just like last November 14th was. Usually the dates dont change much from year to year.

[WeatherMan]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hmm... Interesting.</p><p>The Sarnak city will be an entirely NEUTRAL city. All neutral races can start there.</p><p>Lets see...</p><p>Sarnak City = Neutral</p><p>Neriak = Evil</p><p>We're going to need a city that only the good races can start in next. Kelethin doesn't count since Gnomes and Half Elves are neutral, and Halflings cant start there.</p><p>-----------------------------------------------</p><p>Actually, Kelethin IS a 'good' city - Freeportians are unable to do hardly anything there except learn Faerlie and Heritage quests (unless you traipse out to the Nursery to use the bank), and they are KOS if they stray too near the Royal Court...from all appearances, denizens of Neriak will be KOS in Kelethin, period, and vice-versa.</p>I understand why its irritating that Halflings can't start in Kelethin (I was hoping they could), but I think its a geography thing - half-elves are descended from the native wood elves and refugee high elves that have fled the fall of Felwithe, and gnomes are there because of their original home in the nearby Steamfonts - Rivervale, Qeynos, and the Enchanted Lands have been inaccessible for generations, so I can see why halflings not being able to start there is the order of the day.   I'm not thrilled with it, but I understand it. Most Freeport races, evil or otherwise, will be able to start in Neriak, so it is no less 'evil' than Kelethin is 'good'.  And frankly, while my time on Test server has shown Neriak to be a lot less boring (or at the very least, less of the same-old, same-old) than Freeport, I would only start in Neriak if I were to create an Arasai - I have discovered that many of the more interesting Freeport quests are simply unavailable to Neriak residents - plus, anyone from Freeport appears able to do the 'newbie Neriak quests, but the reverse is certainly not the case - if you don't start on the Outpost of the Overlord or the Queen's Colony, you ain't never gonna see it.  All of you winged types is SOL. So I have to opine that the city balance is doing just fine...Qeynos-Kelethin versus Freeport-Neriak, with the new Sarnak city a neutral cipher, and Maj'Dul being a neutral waste of time.  Yep...balance in all things. </blockquote>

[Cusashorn]

No. Kelethin isn't a "Good-Good" city. Only the races who lived on Faydwer in EQlive can start there, and if it was a truely good city, Evils would be KOS by *ALL* guards, not just the ones by the royal court.

[Controlor]

Throw in the fact that Fae dont like high elves to begin with.... Do the Tunare cloak to know why this is. They arnt kos to high elves but they dont like em either. So its not truely a goody goody place. Just colorful Stupid fae.

[Valsehna]

Trakanon's teeth are very frightening.

[Valsehna]

Shadowbreath@Splitpaw wrote: <blockquote><cite>lucknutshell wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>November 13th? I remembered EoF releases in November 14th, is it just a coincidence or intentioned?</p><p>BTW, the website it mentioned that RoK is an All-in-one expansion in retail pack like EoF, is it means we old players need spend more unnecessary money on it just because it is an All-in-one expansion pack (like EoF, we need pay 10 dollars more than KoS/DoF just because it is an All-in-one package).</p></blockquote><p>Intentional <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>RoK will be available as a digital download too. The other expansions won't be included in that so chances are, it's cheaper. But lots of people buy the boxed set anyway to save them a whole lot of time if they ever have to reinstall plus there is usually some nifty gadget included in the boxed version. </p></blockquote>You forgot one thing....Can we have your stuff? <img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[ke'la]

Valsehna@Antonia Bayle wrote: <blockquote>Shadowbreath@Splitpaw wrote: <blockquote><cite>lucknutshell wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>November 13th? I remembered EoF releases in November 14th, is it just a coincidence or intentioned?</p><p>BTW, the website it mentioned that RoK is an All-in-one expansion in retail pack like EoF, is it means we old players need spend more unnecessary money on it just because it is an All-in-one expansion pack (like EoF, we need pay 10 dollars more than KoS/DoF just because it is an All-in-one package).</p></blockquote><p>Intentional <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>RoK will be available as a digital download too. The other expansions won't be included in that so chances are, it's cheaper. But lots of people buy the boxed set anyway to save them a whole lot of time if they ever have to reinstall plus there is usually some nifty gadget included in the boxed version. </p></blockquote>You forgot one thing....Can we have your stuff? <img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote><p>to lucknutshell</p><p>If you accually read the FAQ this expaintion will be adding content for 1-20 and 65-80 so accually the "new player" will be paying for content they can get the majority of for cheaper with EQ2 Classic + KoS then if they where to get RoK, its just they can't start as a Sarnak and would not have content from 50-55ish. Besides I can't beleave I have to do the math again but ok</p><p>DoF cost 30$ and was developed in about 6months</p><p>KoS cost 30$ and was Developed in about 6months</p><p>EoF Cost 40$ and was Developed in about 10months</p><p>RoK will cost 40$ and will have had a YEAR(12 months for those of you in Rio Linda) of Development</p><p>So lets do the math from the so called Money Hungry Bean Counters at SoE's point of view.</p><p>They got 5$ per month of Dev Time for DoF and KoS.</p><p>They got 4$ per month of Dev Time for EoF.</p><p>They will get 3.33$ per month of Dev time For RoK.</p><p>Yeah they are really trying to Sc## you with the 40$ price tag... Oh and less we forget this will be 85% or more High end 70+ content. </p><p>You are NOT paying for Classic, DoF, KoS, and EoF you are paying for RISE OF KURNAK and thats IT, as a BONUS they are including the previous expaintions for FREE. Would you have prefurd they follow Blizzards Exsample and make you play 40$ for the expaintion and force New players to pay 60$(Burning Crusade+Old World)  just to get into the game?</p><p>Sorry to break it to you but as time goes by prices for new things go UP, its called inflation, it happens. The price of Full games are now around 60$ so that means that large Expaintions are now going to be going for around 40$ thats just the way things work. </p>

[Deathshe]

The important question here is....  Will we get a new character slot with RoK? I don't want to have to delete my new arasai to try out Timorous lol  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Edit*** to correct the typo I typo'ed correcting the typo

[Methriln]

were getting a new slot gu 35

[Aarin]

I'm extremely excited about ROK coming back to Norrath.. I loved this place.. hope it brings back some of that EverQuest magic

[Rocc]

ke'la wrote: <blockquote>Valsehna@Antonia Bayle wrote: <blockquote>Shadowbreath@Splitpaw wrote: <blockquote>lucknutshell wrote: </blockquote></blockquote><p><i><b>Ke'la wrote:</b> </i></p><p><i>DoF cost 30$ and was developed in about 6months</i></p><p><i>KoS cost 30$ and was Developed in about 6months</i></p><p><i>EoF Cost 40$ and was Developed in about 10months</i></p><p><i>RoK will cost 40$ and will have had a YEAR(12 months for those of you in Rio Linda) of Development</i></p><p><i>So lets do the math from the so called Money Hungry Bean Counters at SoE's point of view.</i></p><p><i>They got 5$ per month of Dev Time for DoF and KoS.</i></p><p><i>They got 4$ per month of Dev Time for EoF.</i></p><p><i>They will get 3.33$ per month of Dev time For RoK.</i></p><p><i>Yeah they are really trying to Sc## you with the 40$ price tag... Oh and less we forget this will be 85% or more High end 70+ content. </i></p><p><i>You are NOT paying for Classic, DoF, KoS, and EoF you are paying for RISE OF KURNAK and thats IT, as a BONUS they are including the previous expaintions for FREE. Would you have prefurd they follow Blizzards Exsample and make you play 40$ for the expaintion and force New players to pay 60$(Burning Crusade+Old World)  just to get into the game?</i></p><p><i>Sorry to break it to you but as time goes by prices for new things go UP, its called inflation, it happens. The price of Full games are now around 60$ so that means that large Expaintions are now going to be going for around 40$ thats just the way things work. </i></p></blockquote><p>That is by far the dumbest thing I've ever heard anyone say on these forums! Who are you to tell the Everquest 2 community what they should or shouldn't pay for an EXPANSION (not a game)???</p><p>Dont even answer..... </p>

[ke'la]

<cite>aciddragon340 wrote:</cite><blockquote>ke'la wrote: <blockquote>Valsehna@Antonia Bayle wrote: <blockquote>Shadowbreath@Splitpaw wrote: <blockquote>lucknutshell wrote: </blockquote></blockquote><p><i><b>Ke'la wrote:</b> </i></p><p><i>DoF cost 30$ and was developed in about 6months</i></p><p><i>KoS cost 30$ and was Developed in about 6months</i></p><p><i>EoF Cost 40$ and was Developed in about 10months</i></p><p><i>RoK will cost 40$ and will have had a YEAR(12 months for those of you in Rio Linda) of Development</i></p><p><i>So lets do the math from the so called Money Hungry Bean Counters at SoE's point of view.</i></p><p><i>They got 5$ per month of Dev Time for DoF and KoS.</i></p><p><i>They got 4$ per month of Dev Time for EoF.</i></p><p><i>They will get 3.33$ per month of Dev time For RoK.</i></p><p><i>Yeah they are really trying to Sc## you with the 40$ price tag... Oh and less we forget this will be 85% or more High end 70+ content. </i></p><p><i>You are NOT paying for Classic, DoF, KoS, and EoF you are paying for RISE OF KURNAK and thats IT, as a BONUS they are including the previous expaintions for FREE. Would you have prefurd they follow Blizzards Exsample and make you play 40$ for the expaintion and force New players to pay 60$(Burning Crusade+Old World)  just to get into the game?</i></p><p><i>Sorry to break it to you but as time goes by prices for new things go UP, its called inflation, it happens. The price of Full games are now around 60$ so that means that large Expaintions are now going to be going for around 40$ thats just the way things work. </i></p></blockquote><p>That is by far the dumbest thing I've ever heard anyone say on these forums! Who are you to tell the Everquest 2 community what they should or shouldn't pay for an EXPANSION (not a game)???</p><p>Dont even answer..... </p></blockquote><p>Um all I am pointing out is that if you look at the cost per month of devopment the price the Devs are CHARGING is accually less then all previous expaintions and it is in responce to people saying complaining about paying "an extra 10$ for content we already have" I am simply pointing out that they are NOT infact paying a dime more for "content they already have" it is just that the SoE Devs are giving away that privous content for the same price as the expaintion pack. Besides I am not telling anyone what they should or should not pay. I am using the Price set by SoE and showing that if you look at how much per Month of Dev time the new expaintion cost we are accually paying less then the privious expaintions. If you don't want to pay that much then its very simple don't pay it. Thats YOUR choice. </p><p>BTW once again GAMES are going up in price, therefor EXPANSIONS will go up in price thats how things work. Heck WoW's expaintion also is 40$ only you don't get old world WoW for that price, new players accually have to buy old world WoW and BC to get all the content. Would you be happy if the Retail Price was EXSACTLY THE SAME and you did not get all previous expaintions? </p>

[Nocifer Deathblade]

<p>It is intentional for them to release it on Nov 13th to mark 1 year anniversity after EOF..  Did you look at EQ1's announcement that they decided to make November as the month for future expansions? That means EQ1 decided to release expansion once a year that happens to be in November..</p><p>It's *NO* surprise that EQ2 followed the suit..</p>

[Vyrance]

from the concept art, Trakanon almost looks like hes a sky dragon again.  hes the NPC im most interested to see for what kind of storyline he has in Kunark, especially since it seems hes left Sebilis. and im surprised so many people dont like his look, just from his teeth he looks a lot more menacing than the other dragons. i would kind of hope Trakanon would be a level 100+ NPC like Lord Nagafen, im getting tired of running down Solusek's <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[JohnDoe058]

Guys, guys, who cares how much the expansion costs.  How does 30 or 40 bucks even begin to rival the hundreds or thousands of hours that we sink into the game?  Think about it.

[initoci]

<p>Trakanon is like the best dragon for his [Removed for Content] teeth....Trakanon's Fang would be a 1hsword instead of being some kind of dagger lol.....look at those chompers</p>

[Rayle]

<p>well since there is concept art for Trak hopefully that means we get to see some seb action, and yes, i thought he was undead in eqlive... <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p>

[initoci]

I want to see Skyshrine and City of Mist.

[Rad]

Trakanon was undead in EQlive.  I remember seeing a story describing him as a great blue dragon when he was alive...so I'm wondering if he's somehow come back to life, or as mentioned above, if it's just a concept.

[Coccinea_Maga]

Verix@Nektulos wrote: <blockquote>I want to see Skyshrine and City of [ich kann mich gerade nicht beherrschen].</blockquote> You'll have to wait a bit longer for Skyshrine.  That was off the Wakening Lands and Cobalt Scar in Velious. The Skyfire Mountains were in Kunark though.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[initoci]

<cite>Coccinea_Maga wrote:</cite><blockquote>Verix@Nektulos wrote: <blockquote>I want to see Skyshrine and City of [ich kann mich gerade nicht beherrschen].</blockquote> You'll have to wait a bit longer for Skyshrine.  That was off the Wakening Lands and Cobalt Scar in Velious. The Skyfire Mountains were in Kunark though.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote> Yea Skyfire mountains is the one!

[Galithdor]

Radun@Oasis wrote: <blockquote>Trakanon was undead in EQlive.  I remember seeing a story describing him as a great blue dragon when he was alive...so I'm wondering if he's somehow come back to life, or as mentioned above, if it's just a concept. </blockquote> Ya maybe Trak was revived somehow? Lol will be cool to see the lore behind the new Trak <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Winter]

<span style="font-size: small; color: #ff66cc; font-family: comic sans ms,sand">I'm excited - I'm so curious what will return, what will be changed, and what will be new... and why. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </span>

[Galithdor]

<cite>Winter wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="font-size: small; color: #ff66cc; font-family: comic sans ms,sand">I'm excited - I'm so curious what will return, what will be changed, and what will be new... and why. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </span></blockquote> Geeze im really excited too lol sort of funny that i was excited about EoF and RoK but not that excited about KoS or DoF <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[AegisCrown]

im really curious where trak falls in the story line is he gonna be like a nagafen where hes a major persona involved in the quests or like a a darathar that we have to pursue and kill?

[Naubeta]

Trakannon isn't undead, he's just really messed up.