DPS advise for a raiding Warden

[Arteen]

<p>I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction.  I am a raiding warden with some decent raid gear.  There is a lot of emphesis on some of our raids on DPS.  Do everything you can to improve your dps, etc etc etc.  Being the only raiding Warden in the guild, this is the place I am turning to for advise.  I am parsing in the low 400's on average fights if I don't have to heal a lot.  Are there tips out there that will greatly increase my numbers?  I don't do a lot of meleeing since a lot of our raid fights require healers at max range, so I've opted away from the CA warden achievements.  Do those make a huge difference in DPS?  Is there a Druid tree that dramatically changes our DPS?  Or is mid 400's pretty decent DPS for a raiding warden?  Thanks in advance for all advice.</p>

[ThE_GuN]

It realy depends on what group you are in, I'm guessing you'v been put into the MT group since your the only raiding warden in your guild, and if so, then mid 400s isn't realy bad, MT healers shouldn't be expected to dps if you ask me, any dps they do is just a bonus. If however your in a dps group make sure you end up in a caster group. I was once put in such on a lyceum raid we did and I parsed up to 900dps on a few fights and got on dps parse list a few times. (2 master 1 nukes, 2 adept 1 nukes, and 1 adept 3) If you realy want to do caster dps, try to get some +int, +damage, and porc gear, also if you haven't upgrade your nukes to atleast adept 3, and try to get your heat/cold debuff in master 1 as soon as possible if you haven't already. Also get the belt from the draco mortus vos libre (is that the correct name?) HQ as it procs damage, and debuff heat and cold mit as well.

[5ringsblo]

I am melee specced and a mt raid warden, and I think it does make a huge difference.  On all trash mobs I am in melee range along with alot of named fights depending on ae's.  I found it very hard to dps while casting spells and that it took away from my healing as well.  Where ca's are so fast that I can throw them all in between heals easily.  With aa's I also am healing by just hitting the mob with my weapon.   On trash mobs in all EoF raid zones I can easily do between 1000-1400 dps while in MT group.  The str line in druid is key for melee thou along with the ca's in the warden tree.  You will notice in Eof that the range on alot of the ae's is farther and if in mt group you are going to get hit anyway as well.  Max range and you lose power too quickly.

[TheBu]

<p>If u want ot dps you need to deside if your going to spec for melee or cast spells.</p><p>for casting... you have to have int( gear it and eat it you have to live int) masters.. not just increase damage but more likely to hit hostle spell procing gear( bear min.. is the gizzle thing you can get from a quest) And a Group that help you... a Trub will add like 500 dps to your casts easy.  Mage who buffs for int (wizzy, necro etc),warlock( buff for disruption) will also help Also the int line spell crits would help... but not sure i would respect a warden that did that.</p><p>For melee    str line double attack and chance to heal would be great. you need to gear for str and get + to the type of weapon damge your doing. Haste and procs.. . baby And well GRoups make a massive diffrence... Dirges, pally or any thing that adds procs to the hits.</p>

[Dragonreal]

If you're mt grp, melee-spec really is the best way to go for dpsing because there's some very good "free" (ie group) buffs for meleeing in that grp: shammy str/haste, dirge proc/skills/dps/cob/+proc%, templar +proc%, guardian +skill, and the coercer in group should have space for 1 more dps buff. Whereas if you're in a dps grp, the dps will be taking up all the single-target conc slot buffs (as they should) and you probably won't be grouped with another healer, so the nuking spec would probably be more suitable for dps because it's not as reliant on others' buffs.. just having the int line and getting your spells mastered and getting good proc/+dmg/int gear will net you decent dps (not omgz teh uber! but it will be decent and if you get lucky enough to be put with a troub, it'll be even better).

[ThE_GuN]

If you ask me the MT warden shouldn't focus much on DPS, yes I do nuke some while in the MT group but healing is priority nr1. Problem with melee spec is also that you actually have to be in melee range. For alot of trash and such this isn't really optimal for a large number of named fights where range is part of what keeps healers alive. I'v seen melee healers down to red in a single aoe while I'm standing at range unharmed.

[Fromingo]

<p>Melee warden for DPS and still being able to heal is prob best way to go.  Spells will just take too much time away from healing.    I am only 65 so my DPS is low because I can't hit lvl 73-74 X4 mobs very well but I was able to heal just fine and I know once I get 70 I'll hit those mobs just fine.  One time on trash though I did get in the 400 range for DPS so that's not bad for being 8-9 lvl's lower heh, plus I didn't have much in the way of buffs because of my group's make up being geared to casters.    So yeah when I tried to DPS and got 400+ that's encouraging that I'll at least do 2-3 times that when I can actually hit the mobs consistently.  <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Dragonreal]

Biran@Splitpaw wrote: <blockquote>If you ask me the MT warden shouldn't focus much on DPS, yes I do nuke some while in the MT group but healing is priority nr1. Problem with melee spec is also that you actually have to be in melee range. For alot of trash and such this isn't really optimal for a large number of named fights where range is part of what keeps healers alive. I'v seen melee healers down to red in a single aoe while I'm standing at range unharmed. </blockquote>Just because I or any other melee-specced raid warden dps's doesn't mean our priority isn't healing.. it just means we've noticed that our raids don't always need us to be healing and since we have no debuffs, the only other thing we can do besides heal is dps. There is nothing wrong with that and actually I think that's a much better way to go than sitting around on our duffs doing nothing while we wait for someone to need healing (have seen quite a few healers do that, both druids and non-druids alike and even seen one get booted out of a raid guild for doing it).. and besides, how many proc heals do you throw on the grp while you're throwing out a random nuke here and there? People need to drop this attitude that just because we're meleeing that we're suddenly incapable of healing or prioritizing our healing over our dpsing when the time comes for it, and I'm not saying that speccing for melee is what all wardens should do, but I do feel that it should be recognized as just as viable a spec as any other whether you're raiding, soloing, pvping, or grouping. I can heal, I can nuke (decently.. yay for good gear/spells), I can melee, I can top the heal parse at times, I can solo, I can solo heal hard instances, I can be the last healer standing with power, I can make our zerker say "wow!".. basically, I can do everything you can do and more and all it took was stepping out of the heal-bot box and realizing that I have 7 open hotbars on my screen.. not just 1. I don't melee all the time, just as with many of our abilities, there is a time and a place for it and knowing when and where to use our myriad of abilities is really what separates the good players from the average players. I have perfect respect for anyone who tries the melee spec, or even doesn't try but just knows, and says "this is not for me" but please don't imply that those of us who do spec for melee, or even spec for anything other than pure healing, can't be an mt healer or don't know what a healer's role and priorities are.

[Gutwren]

Become a Fury =P I'm a crappy geared lvl 70 Fury and I parse 600 zone wide in OOB/CoV while being the only healer. (Sky rockets with a Brigand~ 7k+ nukes ftw)

[gita]

me in MT group and not melee specced, when heal its not needed i usually do from 700 to 900 dps and on the ocasional fights (rare) hitting 1000 dps. STAmina and INTeligence for AAs. Tryed the melee template a few weeks but not liked it at end, yes u can do a bit more DPS for me was around 200 more dps but was a hell to try to have hight STR and allways begging for DPS or STR buffs, and at end on the figths who really count melee template its useless cause u cant use it, no way i go melee on a Avatar fight for example, no way go melee on the hard names, the only one fight on was really useful for me was on Pumpkin Headed Horseman. I not played melee to much time to get a bit more str gear and more then that +200 dps vs nuking template. If u go the nuking line, a good way its gear on procs, all can get helps the dps, the bone grasped girlde from the HQ, the MO cap, the misty protector, the vampire set, etc.. the more item procs u got the more dps can do, and the best part for me its u can do that "ranged" and on INT line u got maxed the spell damage crits too. Another good thing on INT line its "infussion" for each beneficial spell u cast a AOE magic dmg procs, if u cast group beneficial spells, the proc goes off x5 dmg. The key its "spam" group heals, group cures, group buffs when nukes are not up.  I like it a lot cause even when u healing u are doing dps. I prefer having dmg spell crits maxed for use on hard names and do less dps, then have more dps on "trash" who c'ant use on hard names <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  ¿ who really cares on the dps on "trash" mobs ? <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> yes if u do more u clean faster, but from 800 dps to 1200 dps not gonna made any difference raid overall, more useful the low ranged DPS doing critical AE nukes on adds in Avatar fights <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />