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DanniOlsen
05-03-2007, 08:26 AM
<p>All - I need advice since i  am starting to have aggro problems and end up dying alot. </p><p>Since I haven't change in the way i play i don't know if its a coincidence or if something has changed in the game or if our Zerker MT suddenly slacking with taunting. My DPS has "always" been on an avarage of 500 raiding which wont even show up on a top 10 ACT pars.</p><p>The problem is when pulling group encounters. I assist MT, start out with 2 x debuff, Auspex, Cataclysmic mind, Gorging Thoughts, Stroke followed up by AE, Ego torrent and Spell Scourge. As soon as the encounters start to AE and successfully hits 5 of my allies they will receive 5x ~1300 of spell reactive damage - which surely will generate hate towards me, but actually 1 encounter running over and beat me to death are new ? (Even tried my emergency AOE hate decrease, no luck)</p><p><i><u>The use of the 5 conc slots:</u> </i>Normaly I have our standard INT/AGI and power buffs up 2 x DPS increase on a Brigand and Shadowknight and 1 x aggro debuff on our Bruiser placed in the MT group.</p><p><i><u>AA's:</u></i> AA's Enchanter tree are AGI and WIS line - AA's Coercer tree Coercion down to Coercive Healing - This mean a total of 5 triggers on reactive's  </p><p><i>(Not to use Spell Scourge are the quick and dirty solution or respec Coercer AA's, but most of my DPS comes from this)</i></p>

WasFycksir
05-03-2007, 09:55 AM
<p>Something seems to be up with aggro.  My necro tank pet switched targets for the first time ever the other day.  Normally I put on a target and thats that.</p><p>I know this is not a direct answer to your post, but I wanted to let you know that something may indeed have changed with how aggro is being handled.</p>

Sydias
05-03-2007, 02:28 PM
<p>I have found that I am able to pull agro based on which type of tank is tanking.  I have noticed that the better the avoidance of the tank, the less likely it is that I will pull agro.  I will especially pull agro if the mob is a caster and the tank is not resisting as much as both spell scourge and auspex will tick damage, so I try to keep in mind what kind of tank is tanking and how their avoidance/wisdom is.</p><p>However, with a lower avoidance tank in the mix, I am able to get some very nice dps.  889 is my tops so far as a MT Coercer.  <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

JackAll
05-03-2007, 03:19 PM
<p>"The problem is when pulling group encounters. I assist MT, start out with 2 x debuff, Auspex, <b><i>Cataclysmic mind</i></b>, Gorging Thoughts, Stroke followed up by AE, Ego torrent and Spell Scourge. As soon as the encounters start to AE and successfully hits 5 of my allies they will receive 5x ~1300 of spell reactive damage - which surely will generate hate towards me, but actually 1 encounter running over and beat me to death are new ? (Even tried my emergency AOE hate decrease, no luck)"</p><p> Why are you using Cataclysmic mind?</p><p> Its a fluff spell that doesnt do anything</p><p>And where is the last dot?</p><p>With regard to your problem you might want to deagro your self. I do this on the encounters where I have agro problems</p>

MugnMo
05-03-2007, 03:26 PM
<p>Does you're MT have any hate buffs?  In a MT position where the tank is gonig very defensive, they need help with their agro. Personally, I think they need at least one coercer or dirge and one swashy or assassin.</p><p>Also, it sounds like you're pealing off targets with spell scourge if the offtarget is AOEing.  Are you using a main assist or just assisting through the tank?  Having a main assist lets the MT work through the mobs to try and build up additional agro which helps with multi mob encounters.</p><p>It could really be any number of things from group setup, to a slacking tank etc.  However, if you're pulling agro with that, I'd guess other people would be as well.</p>