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Siclone
04-27-2007, 11:26 AM
<p>Is there any items you can equip or potions you can drink to enhance your chances of making a pristine quality combine?</p>

Calthine
04-27-2007, 11:42 AM
Lots! <b><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=347050" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> List of items/racial traits that enhance tradeskill/harvesting abilities</a> </b>But if you're having a hard time getting Pritine you might try one of these guides:<b> </b><b><a href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/guides.html?guide=909" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Understanding the Arts</a></b> - <i>How to Successfully Apply the Tradeskill Arts </i><b><a href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/guides.html?guide=928" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Power to the Pristine - It's all about the buttons</a></b> <b><a href="http://eq2flames.com/showthread.php?t=3671" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Pristine - how to get it (almost) every time</a> </b><b><a href="http://eq2flames.com/showthread.php?t=3670" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Not a Moment to Lose! A Guide for Power-Mad Speed-Crafters</a></b> <b> <a href="http://eq2flames.com/showthread.php?t=3674" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The Three Keys To Success (Artisan Advice)</a></b>

Siclone
04-27-2007, 03:03 PM
<p>ugh I am more confused then ever reading some of this....</p><p>ok So you can quest for or get tradeskill gear drops that help</p><p>I understand you can by things off the city merchants that will help?</p><p>I understand you can by totems to help?</p><p>what about potions?</p><p>so of the process listed I just not following,,,,,,I am thinking they were written before the Trade skill changes</p><p>I understand it as simply</p><p>get the items needed, get to the work station, click it on and start, counter the actions, there are 3 that you use, each time you get the icon you click it that counters it.</p><p>thats it right?  other then getting possible gear and or potions or totems,,,,there is no more to it is there???</p>

Calthine
04-27-2007, 03:15 PM
Those guides are all current, except for <b><a href="http://eq2flames.com/showthread.php?t=3674" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The Three Keys To Success</a> </b>which still applies. I guess I didn't get your question, sorry. <ul><li>There are no potions or totems which directly affect your crafting.  Many people use them to control power consumption, but they have no affect on the crafting process.   </li><li>The only things which <i>directly</i> affect the crafting process are the Tradeskill Arts.  You get three Arts every Tier, and they alternate Progress and Durability (Tier1 = Progress, Tier 2 = Durability).</li><li>All +crafting items affect either your skill by increasing it or your % chance of success.  You still have to push the buttons.  I know of no items from the City Merchants that have +crafting on them. </li></ul>Looking at your last post, I highly recommend a close read of <b><a href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/guides.html?guide=909" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Understanding the Arts</a></b> or<i> </i><b><a href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/guides.html?guide=928" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Power to the Pristine - It's all about the buttons</a></b>. There are lots of  right ways to apply your Arts, and some definately <i>wrong</i> ways.  Once you figure it out it's not difficult at all.<b><a href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/guides.html?guide=928" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> </a></b>

Krontak
04-27-2007, 03:57 PM
You could always become a follower of Brell and have the +5000 miracle that instantly makes any combine pristine.

Calthine
04-27-2007, 04:54 PM
<cite>Krontak wrote:</cite><blockquote>You could always become a follower of Brell and have the +5000 miracle that instantly makes any combine pristine.</blockquote> Heh.  what's the refresh on that?

Siclone
04-27-2007, 05:12 PM
<p>Thanks for trying to help, its not you that is confusing me it's the link.  This one is the only one I can view ATM.  And keep in mind I am a 70 chemist and none of this makes any sence to me.  For example:</p><p><i>Don't mindlessly pound your durability buffs</i></p><p>Why would I do that, and what buffs is she talking about?</p><p><i>Don't craft rares when you are too tired</i></p><p>Tired? Myself or my toon? </p><p><i>Reduce your power profile by taking off as many items as you can</i></p><p>What  the heck is she talking about, power profile?</p><p><i>I wear the artisan clothes that can be purchased using status points from the city merchant when crafting</i>.</p><p>You said these did not exist? </p><p><i>Wear power regenerating items if you have them such as the Efreeti Boots (Saving Soles Heritage Quest) or a Pristmatic (Deception Quest) weapon.</i></p><p>Huh? Why, I never even come close losing power??  I am always at full power during crafting, In fact I did not even know crafting took power, until now </p><p><i>Try to hit your buffs at least once during each quality level</i></p><p>Again I have no idea what she is talking about buffs???  She mean the counters? I thought you only hit them when the icon appears?</p><p><i>Do push progress. The longer it takes to make something, the greater your chance of failure.</i></p><p>Huh? Progress is automatic, I have no control over how fast the bar moves?? All I can do is hit the counters when the icon appears everything else is up to soe</p><p><i>Conserve your power to the end, you may need it to keep your durability up.</i></p><p>How is power an issue when crafting again?</p><p><i>Use all your buffs including your progress buff at each quality level, including pristine. If you pound only on your durability buffs, you may actually increase your chance of a failure.</i></p><p>I have no idea what she is talking about,,,quality level? Pound durability buffs? What does that mean? </p><p>This is all greek to me...here is my biggest question:  IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE TO DO WHILE CRAFTING OTHER THEN COUNTER THE ICONS THAT POP UP,,,ALL 3 OF THEM???</p>

Calthine
04-27-2007, 05:24 PM
Too bad, I think the Understanding The Arts guide would answer all your questions.  I have no idea which guide you're quoting there.  One of the reasons I post several is people learn (and explain) in different ways.   "Buffs" = your tradeskill arts.  Those buttons you push to counter an event. When *you* are too tired.  Lack of attention is probably the major reason people loose pristine. Power Profile = how big your power pool is vs. how much regen you can get.  If you don't have a problem with power, this does not apply to you. Ack.  The more I go through your questions, the more I remember why I wrote my Guide.  Please access it sometime; I'm assuming it's blocked from where ever you're browsing from because the link is working fine. I have a question:  how did you get to lvl 70 Alchemist and not know about using your Arts proactively?  This means using them even when there's not an event to counter.  Hitting your Arts only when there's an event to counter is one of the wrong ways to be successful getting pristine all the time.  You *do* know that at level 70 you have SEVEN sets of Arts, right?

Illmarr
04-27-2007, 05:49 PM
Perhaps he meant level 70 Chemistry skill, and not level 70 Alchemist? I don't see how anyone wouldn't stab their eyes with a spork grinding to level 70 without knowing what arts did and leaving it up to the RNG what quality would come out

Calthine
04-27-2007, 09:59 PM
Ah, perhaps.  If that's so, I'll bet anything this will help: Look in your knowledge book (press K, and click the Tradeskills tab).  You got a new set of Arts (you've been calling them counters) at level 10.  These do not replace your old ones.  Use them in addition to the ones you started with. use your Arts when there's nothing to counter.  Examine them, they all do different things.

Siclone
04-27-2007, 10:27 PM
<p>ugh! how frustation,,,i just have one question,,,and one question only and i am not lashing out, at you personally just frustated that no one is answering it</p><p><b><span style="font-size: medium"><u>IS THERE ANYTHING MORE DO TO WHILE CRAFTING OTHER THEN HIT THE ICONS TO COUNTER THE EVENTS?</u></span></b></p>

Calthine
04-27-2007, 10:46 PM
Yes.  Hit the Arts when there are no events to counter. Otherwise, no.

Lortet
04-27-2007, 11:29 PM
<cite>Siclone wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>ugh! how frustation,,,i just have one question,,,and one question only and i am not lashing out, at you personally just frustated that no one is answering it</p><p><b><span style="font-size: medium"><u>IS THERE ANYTHING MORE DO TO WHILE CRAFTING OTHER THEN HIT THE ICONS TO COUNTER THE EVENTS?</u></span></b></p></blockquote>Every "tick" hit all three buffs - if your durability is going well, hit the progress buffs, if the durability is falling too much, hit the durability buffs (or a combination if you can't decide). If an icon shows up that needs countering, hit that on first but still hit the other two as well. Do this and power management will come into play - I keep the tier one power using buff (it is a progess one) on my toolbar in case my power gets to be a problem (it uses little power, but still counters events).

Darwanda
04-28-2007, 03:27 PM
<cite>Siclone wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>ugh! how frustation,,,i just have one question,,,and one question only and i am not lashing out, at you personally just frustated that no one is answering it</p><p><b><span style="font-size: medium"><u>IS THERE ANYTHING MORE DO TO WHILE CRAFTING OTHER THEN HIT THE ICONS TO COUNTER THE EVENTS?</u></span></b></p></blockquote><p> Actually, it does sound like you're lashing out.  Folks are trying to answer your question.  You can use the icons even when there is no event to counter and that increases either your progress bar or your durability bar, depending on which level icon you use.</p><p>Keeping your skills maxed out increases your probablility of pristine.  One of the quest reward items for the Finding a profession noob tradeskiller quest is a vest that increases all skills by one.  There are items you can get from the Island of Mara if you're lvl 50 (maybe 55+) that increase your skills.  Tinkerers sell items that increase your skills also.  All of which is in the guides posted initially.  They are lengthy guides for sure, but the reason for that is crafting has some complexity to it otherwise you wouldn't be so confused.</p>

Finora
04-28-2007, 04:26 PM
<cite>Siclone wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>ugh! how frustation,,,i just have one question,,,and one question only and i am not lashing out, at you personally just frustated that no one is answering it</p><p><b><span style="font-size: medium"><u>IS THERE ANYTHING MORE DO TO WHILE CRAFTING OTHER THEN HIT THE ICONS TO COUNTER THE EVENTS?</u></span></b></p></blockquote><p>Tons. If you lose a lot of progress, hit at least 1 of your buffs that increases progress again. If you start getting lots of critical failures, sometimes the RNG hates you and this will happen several times in a row, you will need to start hitting your + durability buffs, all of them until your durability bar is back at a comfortable level. </p><p>You never just hit the buffs when the reaction pops up in the Tradeskill window.  If you are just doing that you might as well just hit the start button and go get yourself a drink then hit it again when you get back. You'll get about the same results.</p><p>There are some items, as it has already been said, that can increase your skill or your % chance of a successful combine. None of them will help though if you aren't actively working your tradeskill arts.</p>

Calthine
04-28-2007, 07:06 PM
(didn't I say all that a couple of times before the "ultimate question"?  lol)