gear = to what?

[Magnis]

<p>This is something I've always been curious about.</p><p>seeing how many can take on heroic mods close to their level, and seeing how a single decked out player can wipe the floor on 3 players on crap gear and AC/SPElls, what can a player with all fabled and masters be compared to, lets say, a mob in the game.  Is it possible to be at equal strength as a ^^^?</p>

[Bozidar]

Magnis@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote><p>This is something I've always been curious about.</p><p>seeing how many can take on heroic mods close to their level, and seeing how a single decked out player can wipe the floor on 3 players on crap gear and AC/SPElls, what can a player with all fabled and masters be compared to, lets say, a mob in the game.  Is it possible to be at equal strength as a ^^^?</p></blockquote>my lvl 12 warden took out a 13^^^ the other day <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  12^^^'s are cupcakes.

[Rattfa]

My 70 fury can take on green ^^^ names but thats about it....average gear, but all nukes/heals and mose buffs are ad3. Usually out of power after killing one. My twinked (full mc/legendary armour and jewelry, with a couple of masters and the rest ad3) 31 Wiz can kill white ^^^ if the root holds...that by no means is given. Soloed the entire Dwarven Work Boots HQ while it was still white. The bloodtalon fight was V close tho...about 3% health at the 3rd attempt I have several other alts, but havent really tested their effectiveness against heroics before.

[Bozidar]

Rattface@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote>My 70 fury can take on green ^^^ names but thats about it....average gear, but all nukes/heals and mose buffs are ad3. Usually out of power after killing one. My twinked (full mc/legendary armour and jewelry, with a couple of masters and the rest ad3) 31 Wiz can kill white ^^^ if the root holds...that by no means is given. Soloed the entire Dwarven Work Boots HQ while it was still white. The bloodtalon fight was V close tho...about 3% health at the 3rd attempt I have several other alts, but havent really tested their effectiveness against heroics before. </blockquote><p>any class that root/nukes can eventually take out a ^^^ given enough tries.  You just need that root to last, and for it to not get resistsed on the follow-ups.</p><p>my warden however.. didn't root/nuke to kill the 13^^^ <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  they're just overpowered in T2 is all.  he won't be able to do it as he levels up </p>

[Magnis]

<p>Dps i guess we are able to compete with heroics ^^^, thats cool.  What about a guardian or tank, there is no way (assuption) that a guardian can out damage a heroic even con.  Would he be able to withstand a beating like that? </p><p> Im never going to have the best gear, dont have the dedication.  But heroics have amazing damage output and they take a beating like thers no tomorrow. There is no class that exels in every category as far as I know. Can we compete with heroics, in any other category?</p><p>This would be if they had the best gear for that tier.  This is still comparing the power between DeckedOutJoe/Heroics^^^, and DeckedoutJoe/JoeTheNoob.</p>

[Bozidar]

Magnis@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote><p>Dps i guess we are able to compete with heroics ^^^, thats cool.  What about a guardian or tank, there is no way (assuption) that a guardian can out damage a heroic even con.  Would he be able to withstand a beating like that? </p><p> Im never going to have the best gear, dont have the dedication.  But heroics have amazing damage output and they take a beating like thers no tomorrow. There is no class that exels in every category as far as I know. Can we compete with heroics, in any other category?</p><p>This would be if they had the best gear for that tier.  This is still comparing the power between DeckedOutJoe/Heroics^^^, and DeckedoutJoe/JoeTheNoob.</p></blockquote><p> no melee class is going to be able to take out an even conn'd ^^^ until you start hitting the really silly gear you get or can get at 70th lvl.</p><p>my 30 brig on vox might be the best geared brig at that level, on that server.  he can take out 26^^^'s regularly.  I've taken out blue ^^^'s with him.. but as with my warden above, the ability to do this reduces as you go up in level becase the ^^^ get tougher compared to your level.</p>

[Finora]

<p>In the teens a shadowknight in mastercrafted can really put a beat down on some heroics.</p>

[MadTexan3]

<cite>Finora wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>In the teens a shadowknight in mastercrafted can really put a beat down on some heroics.</p></blockquote><p>Indeed, and if he's farmed a few masters for himself (I have 2 so far) and has a few key adorments (spiked shoulders, for examples) he's just silly powerful.</p><p>My new DE SK at 12th level got a yellow 13th ^^^ bloodskull sentry down to 5% before having to run (being near 2% myself) and that was before I started getting my adornments ready and with more than a few App4s and Ad1s still. </p>

[Magnis]

<p>The best experience that I have would be, I took on some  level 18 skelly^^^ at 20 in lvl12 MC gear and Adept 3s.  The fights were a matter of chance, but majority of the times I was able to pull it of.</p><p>Pallys do extra damage on undead and ofcourse wards helped alot.  Timing my stuns and knook downs, and a couple of resist all played a  roll on winning the fight. I imagine having better fabled/masters at that level would have made a difference, and prob would have taken hier mobs. Ive also read that the balance really changes in hier level in the past.</p><p>But that experience left me wondering.  unfortunately I havent been able to get good gear at hier levels because its too expensive.</p>

[Raveller]

<cite>Bozidar wrote:</cite><blockquote>Magnis@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote><p>This is something I've always been curious about.</p><p>seeing how many can take on heroic mods close to their level, and seeing how a single decked out player can wipe the floor on 3 players on crap gear and AC/SPElls, what can a player with all fabled and masters be compared to, lets say, a mob in the game.  Is it possible to be at equal strength as a ^^^?</p></blockquote>my lvl 12 warden took out a 13^^^ the other day <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  12^^^'s are cupcakes. </blockquote>At that low level, the ^^^ doesn't really mean anything. That will soon change for you.

[Bozidar]

<cite>Raveller wrote:</cite><blockquote>At that low level, the ^^^ doesn't really mean anything. That will soon change for you. </blockquote><p> keep reading the rest of the post, rave <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>and ^^^ does mean something.  It means someone in crap gear with crap skills and crap spell/ca upgrades is going to die unless it's green and they get lucky.</p><p>but as i said, ^^^ starts to mean a heck of a lot more as you level up.. </p>