View Full Version : Expanding Ignore Features
Mozrin
04-25-2007, 12:44 PM
<p>Greetings,</p><p>I am a frequent user of the /ignore command. I would like to suggest that its impact to targeted user might optionally be a little less permanent. There are folks that are irritating from time to time .. but overall .. they are good people. Perhaps an /ignore24 command? or an optional paramenter to the /ignore that would ignore for a duration (minutes)?</p><p>I also would like to see a more severe version of ignore implimented. I would like to be able to /blacklist certain people. The difference being .. /blacklist would remove them from my game completely. Currently .. on the server I frequent .. ther are about 6-8 people that farm SS and other zones without consideration for others. The harvest your nodes, take the shiny from under your feet while you are clearing the mob next to it, or pull the named that you just killed a path to. I would love to be able to erase their merchandise, chat comments, /who results, keep them from buying from me .. etc</p><p>Would love to get some feedback? Thoughts?</p><p>Mozrin</p><p>EDIT: Let me be clear. When I say erase, remove, etc .. I mean from my perspective. When I search for things on broker .. their stuff would not come up. When they search for stuff .. mine would not appear. etc.</p>
bensilvi
04-25-2007, 02:11 PM
WHy /ignore? If is spaming in level chat ignore it. if its someone harrassing you then why would want to remove the /ignore. if its a plat seller there is no point as the toon that spammed ya will be gone in 24 anyways.
nitrous
04-25-2007, 02:47 PM
<cite>Mozrin wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Greetings,</p><p>I am a frequent user of the /ignore command. I would like to suggest that its impact to targeted user might optionally be a little less permanent. There are folks that are irritating from time to time .. but overall .. they are good people. Perhaps an /ignore24 command? or an optional paramenter to the /ignore that would ignore for a duration (minutes)?</p><p>I also would like to see a more severe version of ignore implimented. I would like to be able to /blacklist certain people. The difference being .. /blacklist would remove them from my game completely. Currently .. on the server I frequent .. ther are about 6-8 people that farm SS and other zones without consideration for others. The harvest your nodes, take the shiny from under your feet while you are clearing the mob next to it, or pull the named that you just killed a path to. I would love to be able to erase their merchandise, chat comments, /who results, keep them from buying from me .. etc</p><p>Would love to get some feedback? Thoughts?</p><p>Mozrin</p><p>EDIT: Let me be clear. When I say erase, remove, etc .. I mean from my perspective. When I search for things on broker .. their stuff would not come up. When they search for stuff .. mine would not appear. etc.</p></blockquote><p>Hmmm......well not to rain on your parade but not sure that either will ahve any meanfully useage. /Ignore24 is just a lazy way of not cleaning out your /ignore list from time to time. </p><p>/blacklist. Hmmm.....interesting concept but, the example you sited as the initial driving reason you may use this command is flawed. You used, as an example, the farmers in SS taking your shinies, boss mobs, nodes from under you. A /blacklist will not have any impact on curbing this behavior. Sure, you no longer have to see their chat, broker items, etc. But they would still be there doing all the things that you stated initally. Not sure I can connect the dots in the thinking there.</p><p> </p>
liveja
04-25-2007, 03:46 PM
<cite>JohnDoe058 wrote:</cite><blockquote>If you ignore, then you don't learn. </blockquote><p>I play EQ2 to have fun. I take real life classes to learn. I do my best not to confuse the two pursuits.</p><p>Claiming that use of the ignore feature implies "fanaticism" or "zealotry" or even "close-mindedness" is quite a stretch when we're talking about putting someone on /ignore because he/she is ill-mannered, foul-mouthed, or otherwise unpleasant.</p>
JohnDoe058
04-25-2007, 04:07 PM
<cite>livejazz wrote:</cite><blockquote>Claiming that use of the ignore feature implies "fanaticism" or "zealotry" or even "close-mindedness" is quite a stretch when we're talking about putting someone on /ignore because he/she is ill-mannered, foul-mouthed, or otherwise unpleasant.</blockquote><p>But putting people on ignore on such a routine basis, that one finds want for further capability of the feature? Just how many people are we talking about here, anyway? It seems that if you put more than a couple of people on ignore, then your coping skills are really sorry, and it's just easier to shut you up, than to try to shut everyone else up.</p><p>Let me break it down:</p><p>"Ill-mannered" : you beleive that they should behave another way.</p><p>"foul-mouthed" : you beleive that they should speak in another manner.</p><p>"otherwise unpleasant" : Well I'm sorry that they're not as perfect as you are, princess.</p><p>So how about being more accepting of people's behavior, instead of ignoring it? Conform your beliefs to reality, and you won't have all that self-inflicted mental anguish.</p>
liveja
04-25-2007, 04:35 PM
<cite>JohnDoe058 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>"Ill-mannered" : you beleive that they should behave another way.</p></blockquote><p>I'm sorry, but I don't recall claiming otherwise, & I'm pretty sure everyone who read my post understood that I do think people I deem "ill-mannered" should behave otherwise. So I'm not sure what your point was.</p><p>I see no reason to respond to the rest of your post.</p>
mellowknees72
04-25-2007, 07:20 PM
<cite>JohnDoe058 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>livejazz wrote:</cite><blockquote>Claiming that use of the ignore feature implies "fanaticism" or "zealotry" or even "close-mindedness" is quite a stretch when we're talking about putting someone on /ignore because he/she is ill-mannered, foul-mouthed, or otherwise unpleasant.</blockquote><p>But putting people on ignore on such a routine basis, that one finds want for further capability of the feature? Just how many people are we talking about here, anyway? It seems that if you put more than a couple of people on ignore, then your coping skills are really sorry, and it's just easier to shut you up, than to try to shut everyone else up.</p><p>Let me break it down:</p><p>"Ill-mannered" : you beleive that they should behave another way.</p><p>"foul-mouthed" : you beleive that they should speak in another manner.</p><p>"otherwise unpleasant" : Well I'm sorry that they're not as perfect as you are, princess.</p><p><b>So how about being more accepting of people's behavior, instead of ignoring it? Conform your beliefs to reality, and you won't have all that self-inflicted mental anguish.</b></p></blockquote><p>*cough*</p><p>Hello, pot...meet the kettle. Notice any similarities between you two?</p><p>You're telling people to be more accepting...and then calling the OP a princess in another post? </p><p>/boggle </p>
Lornick
04-25-2007, 11:44 PM
<cite>JohnDoe058 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Let me break it down:</p><p>"Ill-mannered" : you beleive that they should behave another way.</p><p>"foul-mouthed" : you beleive that they should speak in another manner.</p><p>"otherwise unpleasant" : Well I'm sorry that they're not as perfect as you are, princess.</p><p>So how about being more accepting of people's behavior, instead of ignoring it? Conform your beliefs to reality, and you won't have all that self-inflicted mental anguish.</p></blockquote><p>I actually found your first comment pretty amusing. But your logic is pretty severely flawed. According to your thought process there isn't anything wrong with being ill-mannered, foul-mouthed or displaying unpleasant behavior to other players. Everyone is just supposed to accept poor behavior as some form of enlightenment to challenge our belief system. The problem with your theory is the assumption that players put on ignore are done so because they challenge our belief system. That is simply incorrect in most cases.</p><p>I can't speak for everyone, but generally when I put people on ignore it's because they seem to think public chat channels are the correct place to carry on casual conversations or say whatever pops into their head first. I can't count the times I've seen comments like "What's a raid?" or "What's loot?". It isn't even slightly amusing or challenging to my belief system. I actually enjoy healthy debate that goes against my belief system. If there was a worldwide channel set up for it then I would probably join it. But foul-mouthed 12yr olds don't tend to make many valid rational points worthy of debating. It's not a matter of them being the "perfect little princess" I am. It's a matter of them not being as intellectually mature, experienced or schooled. </p>
wilba
04-26-2007, 04:10 AM
<p> ------------------------------------------------------- </p><p>Let me break it down:</p><p>"Ill-mannered" : you beleive that they should behave another way.</p><p>"foul-mouthed" : you beleive that they should speak in another manner.</p><p>"otherwise unpleasant" : Well I'm sorry that they're not as perfect as you are, princess.</p><p>So how about being more accepting of people's behavior, instead of ignoring it? Conform your beliefs to reality, and you won't have all that self-inflicted mental anguish.</p><p>----------------------------------------------------------</p><p> Please don't IGNORE me but you may LEARN something.</p><p>Belief NOT beleif</p><p>Believe NOT beleive</p><p>If your going to foghorn and roast someone at least use a spell checker!</p>
PsiberDaemon
04-26-2007, 02:08 PM
I don't really use the ignore feature all that much. If someone really frustrates me, I just move on to a different location. There's enough room in Norrath for everyone to place nice in. If someone is actually following you around and 'stalking' you, report it. The main thing that irritates me are plat farmers, etc... putting them on ignore won't stop them from farming and stealing mobs in my area, so it really doesn't work. What I WOULD like to see would be a DND (Do Not Disturb) flag... the # of times I'm crafting or just running around doing something and people keep saying 'you have AFK up' ... a 'DND' flag would be nice (does the same thing as AFK but shows 'DND' over your toon instead of 'AFK'<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ... just something extra. And of course, the one command they STILL haven't implemented... '/iwin' which AUTOMATICALLY grants you the winning # on any /random rolls... <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />
Raveller
04-26-2007, 02:19 PM
I would dearly love an /unperson command that would ignore the entire account, not just a single character on the account.
Valdaglerion
04-26-2007, 03:27 PM
<p>A few thoughts -</p><ul><li>The Op's suggestions for the /ignore24 I think are unwarranted, its lazy and ignore is meant more to remove someone from sight until such a time you want to remove that restriction. Use it sparingly, if someone is being mildly annoying, accept it as a fact of life and move on.</li><li>The second suggestion is more viable personally. If I have gotten to a point of putting you on ignore, why is it you can still send me group request? If I truly dislike you enough to put you on ignore I would like to exclude you form my gameplay. BTW - I only have 2 people on my ignore list.</li><li>The DND flag - love it, mentioned it before myself for the same reasons, hope they implement it soon. Shouldnt be that hard.</li><li><span style="color: #ff3300"><b>/IngoreAccount would be awesome. If one toon in an account gets flagged they all do, perfect. Solves many problems with anonymous griefing and quite honestly plat spammers too. You ignore them once they would have to get an entirely new account to do it again, not just a new toon.</b></span></li></ul><p> With that said - I kind of agree with the poster about being a little more judicial in the use of the ignore although I dont think the princess comments were warranted. There is another facet of this game to be considered. There are many people who have children. Using the profanity filters dont often work because people work around them to get their vulgar comments through. Ignore one toon they come back as another, /ignoreaccount in conjuntion with the /blacklist feature removes them from gameplay alltogether and provides a little more of a barrier in keeping them away from minors (just something to consider).</p>
Mealaan
04-26-2007, 06:15 PM
I would like to also see an ignore that ignores the entire account of the person you wanna ignore.
singerstone
04-26-2007, 06:34 PM
I think we need to change the /ignore command.... Maybe to /talktothehand? /deargodwillyoupleaseshutup?,/spammerssuck? Just a thought. And johndoe.. you do sound like the very thing you seem to hate in others, just a louder and more obnoxious version of it. Chill. relax. Take the pink pill and everything will be ok. <img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />
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