View Full Version : Bags/Sacks/boxes
Eshaac
04-24-2007, 08:52 AM
<p>Here's a thought....</p><p> We have all done this... One of our alts needs some rare stones/ore for his/her adept3's. So we take our high lvl and start harvesting... some times for hours, some times not. But we all end up with a bag or 2 of raws we just don't need. We don't want to bother selling them on the broker cause there are 20 other people selling the raws and they all selling for 1c each. Bah, who wants to get in line hoping that the buyer will pick them to purchase all them raws. So we right click each and every stack and select delete. Now if we have a few bags full of da stuff.. how time consuming a task. </p><p>But what if there was an option on the bag/sack/box when ye right clicked it that said, "delete all contents" so you select this option and a popup appears saying "please open the bag/sack/box and verify all the contents are to be deleted" and on this popup window are 2 buttons one saying yes, and the other no/cancel. However those buttons are not active until you actually open the bag/sack/box. Now by not allowing the buttons to be active until the bag/sack/box is open ye are saving the problem of someone accidentally deleting an item they did not want to destroy and there by eliminating the claim to cs about what ya destroyed by accident.</p><p>Now wouldn't that be a time saver for everyone.... </p><p> Turzen aka Heppy splitpaw.</p>
I'd find something like this convenient. Some other things I'd like to see: - If I try to move a full bag into another, I'd like it if a prompt would pop up, "Move contents?". If I hit "Yes", it would move everything in the bag I'm moving into the other bag, up to capacity limits. - I'd really like to be able to right click on an item in inventory and mark it Not for Sale. On occasion I've accidentally sold something I meant to keep, and if I could have marked it when I was thinking about keeping it I could have saved myself... from myself. <img src="/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Also would mitigate some of the futzing time trying to make sure I'm marking the right inventory item Not for Sale in the merchant window.
<p>What I would like to see is a consolidate option for the shared slots in the bank. I have ebon boxes in the shared slots and I find I have mulitiples of the same item in different locations. Giant finger in one box, 2 in another box, and another in the last box. Want to talk about a time sink, cleaning out the bank takes hours to sort through and make it useable again.</p><p>But to the idea of delete whole contents, I am going to have to disagree because of rares. Just looking at the bag it is hard to tell which ones are rare, if I spent hours harvesting, then I will have a few in my bags.</p>
Eshaac
04-24-2007, 10:50 AM
<cite>Quda wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>But to the idea of delete whole contents, I am going to have to disagree because of rares. Just looking at the bag it is hard to tell which ones are rare, if I spent hours harvesting, then I will have a few in my bags.</p></blockquote>uumm first off.. if ya hover your mouse over a bag it tells you what is in it. and secondly the whole idea of having to have you open the bag first is so ye can get the rare out and not accidentally delete it. If you would rather click each and every stack just to delete them then good luck to ya.... To me that is waisting time. And as for having a few rares.. I and I am speaking for meself take the first rare I get out and place in one bag and keep all the rares in the same bag.. so when I get another it goes to that same bag. When I am finished they are all in one place and not in all the other bags etc..... That one moment it takes me to place the rare in that bag, in turn saves me lots of time I'd have spent going through all me other bags to see what I have...
Dark_Templar_Master
04-24-2007, 11:14 AM
How about going to the root of the porblem and offering a merchant to buy and sell harvestables for 1c a piece?
Bramwe
04-24-2007, 11:40 AM
The day after they would make a change like this someone would post " SOE can I get a refund for my relic Bp? I accidentally deleted it while harvesting/crafting cause I was wearing my artisans tunic". The only way I could see this as a possibility is if the option was only added to the bag from the Village of Shin that only allows harvestables inside of it.
Eshaac
04-24-2007, 12:07 PM
<cite>Bramwell wrote:</cite><blockquote>The day after they would make a change like this someone would post " SOE can I get a refund for my relic Bp? I accidentally deleted it while harvesting/crafting cause I was wearing my artisans tunic". The only way I could see this as a possibility is if the option was only added to the bag from the Village of Shin that only allows harvestables inside of it. </blockquote> As I said in my original post... "making the yes and no option <b><u>only</u></b> avail <b><u>if</u></b> the bag <b><u>is opened</u></b> there by the person being able to see it's contents and making sure this does not happen. If it does then it to bad for that person for doing even though they can see it in the bag/sack/box..
Kenazeer
04-24-2007, 01:45 PM
<p>I just drag them into empty space and click ok. Goes pretty fast that way.</p><p>I also think adding a delete bag contents option would be a bad idea. To this day we still have people accidently selling things on the broker do to lag or clicking too quickly. Imagine the problems if someone accdiently clicked the wrong bag, opened it, lagged, and "clicked" yes instead of no.</p>
Eshaac
04-24-2007, 02:38 PM
<cite>Kenazeer wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I just drag them into empty space and click ok. Goes pretty fast that way.</p><p>I also think adding a delete bag contents option would be a bad idea. To this day we still have people accidently selling things on the broker do to lag or clicking too quickly. Imagine the problems if someone accdiently clicked the wrong bag, opened it, lagged, and "clicked" yes instead of no.</p></blockquote>Yes there is always going to be the lag/accident no matter what, but I think for the majority this would be a good idea and time saver. Remember, "You can't please everyone"..... It is better to please some, than it is to please none.
Jenarie
04-24-2007, 03:22 PM
I prefer the current system.
tracheaspider
04-24-2007, 03:36 PM
Heppy@Splitpaw wrote: <blockquote><cite>Quda wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>But to the idea of delete whole contents, I am going to have to disagree because of rares. Just looking at the bag it is hard to tell which ones are rare, if I spent hours harvesting, then I will have a few in my bags.</p></blockquote>uumm first off.. if ya hover your mouse over a bag it tells you what is in it. and secondly the whole idea of having to have you open the bag first is so ye can get the rare out and not accidentally delete it. If you would rather click each and every stack just to delete them then good luck to ya.... To me that is waisting time. (snip) </blockquote><p>So, basically, you want to trade more thinking for slightly less dragging and clicking? Because, to me, this wouldn't save time. I often harvest late at night when I'm tired and not thinking straight, and trying to make sure I'm not accidentally destroying things I want to save would take way too much time in that state. (As it is, I double check before deleting a stack the "long" way.) Not to mention, I'm sure I'd have to shuffle things a <i>lot</i> to get a bag that's <i>only</i> things to destroy.</p><p>A more practical solution would be if stacking items had "destroy all" and "destroy quantity" options in the right click menu so you could choose to get rid of multiple stacks in fewer clicks. (Personal inventory, house vault, personal bank, shared bank and guild bank contents would all be destroyed separately.) This would save time but also minimize how much thought you had to put into it. (I would use this feature a lot -- not only for harvesting raws, but also getting rid of annoying junk like vampire teeth, excess thoughtstones, etc.) This would, imo, be the most efficient, safest way to destroy in bulk.</p>
Vorlak
04-24-2007, 03:40 PM
<p>they could make a HQ quest "Large Sewing Kit" from EQ1 and when you put items in it press combine and it can distory them all for ya!</p><p>[Removed for Content] i miss those things.</p>
Eshaac
04-24-2007, 05:20 PM
<cite>tracheaspider wrote:</cite><blockquote><blockquote>So, basically, you want to trade more thinking for slightly less dragging and clicking? Because, to me, this wouldn't save time. I often harvest late at night when I'm tired and not thinking straight, and trying to make sure I'm not accidentally destroying things I want to save would take way too much time in that state. (As it is, I double check before deleting a stack the "long" way.) Not to mention, I'm sure I'd have to shuffle things a <i>lot</i> to get a bag that's <i>only</i> things to destroy.</blockquote><p>A more practical solution would be if stacking items had "destroy all" and "destroy quantity" options in the right click menu so you could choose to get rid of multiple stacks in fewer clicks. (Personal inventory, house vault, personal bank, shared bank and guild bank contents would all be destroyed separately.) This would save time but also minimize how much thought you had to put into it. (I would use this feature a lot -- not only for harvesting raws, but also getting rid of annoying junk like vampire teeth, excess thoughtstones, etc.) This would, imo, be the most efficient, safest way to destroy in bulk.</p></blockquote>Well that is good for you.. But just because it not a good idea for "you" to use does not mean others might not like it. I personally would rather think then not. If you are to tired to think then go ta bed.. hahhaha. but seriously.. Just because an option is there, does not mean you have to use it.
tracheaspider
04-24-2007, 06:14 PM
Heppy@Splitpaw wrote: <blockquote>Well that is good for you.. But just because it not a good idea for "you" to use does not mean others might not like it. I personally would rather think then not. If you are to tired to think then go ta bed.. hahhaha. but seriously.. Just because an option is there, does not mean you have to use it. </blockquote><p>Right back at ya. If you just wanted validation for your idea, you should have said so at the start. Seriously, though? I think a mass destruction option would be a good idea, but to really make it work for <i>most</i> people, it has to be pretty foolproof and flexible. Deleting the entire contents of a bag at once would lead to way too many accidents. I don't care if <i>you're</i> perfect enough to never screw up or if <i>you</i> would shrug it off if you did -- I think most of us would rather not risk it.</p><p>"Destroy all" and "destroy quantity," on the other hand, would fit in with the right click>destroy and the buying and selling in quantities mechanics already in game and likely wouldn't lead to any more accidents than already happen. It would save time and keep inventory shuffling to a minimum. It would also be very easy to see if you were deleting more than you meant to in the confirmation window: "Are you sure you want to delete these items? boiled leather pelt (643)." I'm not looking, after all, for something that suits just me, but something that would suit <i>most</i> people -- adapting familiar mechanics tends to work best in that respect.</p><p>And honestly, if you are that big a fan of thinking, consider this: why not use those 2.5-5 seconds during harvests to clear out your bags a little at time? You'd end up with a stack or two of each resource at most when you're done harvesting. That's what I currently do and it seems to work. But I'd still like a simple, faster way to do it.</p>
terzaghi
04-25-2007, 11:58 AM
Long time deleter here, but I recently began selling any raws on the broker.... you would be surprised.
Tuetatesu
04-25-2007, 01:19 PM
<p>I think the current system is fine. Does not take to long to drag the item in to space and click delete.</p><p>And personally I'd rather them focus on bigger fish and add other features. </p><p>No disrespect to what you suggested it's an ok idea. Cept... if your going to focus on just deleting harvestables why not just make a right click that says... "Delete all common Harvestable in Bag?". Then and confirm.</p><p>This way it only deletes common harvestables, not rares, and only harvestables, not items, in the bag in two clicks.</p>
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