actually chatting once an hour in chat. try stopping me.

[avow]

<p>about once an hour or couple of hours i will bring something up in lowbie chat. I don't use sexist or racist remarks or swear words and actually spell most of the words correctly.  I might say something about the current news or '====gasp!!!---- ask something about the game or gameplay OR EVEN ASK FOR GROUP!</p><p>Then comes the "ST*U nub", "How do i get out of this channel?", "go to the forums", or a rant from someone complaing about all the conversation that goes on in chat. Guess what? I have been playing a few hours and NOTHING WAS BEING SAID FOR ABOUT TWO HOURS!  I checked my log, asked politely in chat and NOTHING WAS SAID FOR TWO HOURS! </p><p>Ok.  Guess what? I'm going to continue to make nice, meaningful one line chat statements once an hour or two or ask game questions. Report me. You get me banned then I talk nice to soe, who then continues to ban me better have a real good lawyer. </p><p>I am tired of these players who join massive online games and want ZERO conversation in chat then vilify and put down anyone who dares to interupt "their" game. Excuse me! I read the rules and have had tells with gm's in the past who have told me i can do what i am doing and was thanked for continuing to be civil and clean with my language. </p><p>A dead empty chat that goes on for hours in prime time, even if all it is is to ask for groups or game questions, is a pure sign of a dead game. I have seen it in other games and it is sad. If i want this I can go play any offline game.</p>

[Sunlei]

<p> I agree with you! the chats are to quiet, and if someone says something the old ladies come out of the woodwork and pick them to death. The low lvl chat was that way on the Guk server, totally silent. Then someone asked in lvl 1 chats for more for their new guild, once. Someone starts peeping.."stop spamming, we don't need anymore guilds"</p><p> please soe get a global-wide chat so the servers seem more alive, by limiting the chats to levels even at primetime the lower lvl chats are hours of nothing.</p><p>A globalwide default chat will make the servers seem more alive. Like you added to eq1, please add a globalwide chat to eq2.</p><p>and chat, shout, ask anything you want. If you're polite and don't swear then noone can petition you for anything. By the way if anyone is cussing at you for chatting then /report their text and /petition them and have them suspended for a week <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>happy hunting!</p>

[danmuntz]

avow wrote: <blockquote>Ok.  Guess what? I'm going to continue to make nice, meaningful one line chat statements once an hour or two or ask game questions. Report me. You get me banned then I talk nice to soe, who then continues to ban me better have a real good lawyer. </blockquote><p>I don't get it.  Are you threatening to file suit against SOE or the person who reported you?  I seriously doubt SOE will give you the person's information who reported you, so you must be talking about suing SOE.  In that case, I don't think you'll get very far since you did agree to the EULA.  </p><p>My point is that mindless threats will get you nowhere.</p><p> But yes, I do agree that some people's attitudes in chat channels are bad.  It is, after all, a CHAT channel - therefore one chats.</p>

[Veet]

sounds to me like you're on the wrong server. On unrest, the chat channels are quite chatty.

[Moongloom]

Very chatty on Mistmoore, too.  The debates that happen in the 1-9 chat channel and the hilarious stuff in the 60-69 chat channel are great.

[deKoven]

Indeed, from a relative noob the chat area is sometimes OVERcrowded with "stuff" that I don't really NEED to see. However, one can just skim over it and go on about one's business. What bothers me more is/are the toons that just stand there looking at you as you ask questions. There should be a way to <span style="font-size: medium"><u><b>HEY You! Yes you, can't you see I'm trying to talk?</b></u> <span style="font-size: small">Can't count the number of times I've been just ignored as though I didn't exist. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or if they are just really ignoring me.</span> <span style="font-size: small">The only thing I <u>would</u> change is the jacka$$ trying to sell me some junk or trying to give me a plat coin(s). I wasn't born yesterday so I don't answer them; maybe they think the same about me as I think about others. Heh heh! </span></span><img src="/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Kaalenarc]

<p>to the OP - nothing wrong with fostering a little discussion imho.</p>

[Leemeg]

<p>Chatting in the public channels is good, as long as it isn't including swearing, talking bad about other players, politics/relegion, etc.. A totally silent channels is not fun.</p><p>If anyone reports you for chatting, like you describing, it should be those that reported you to be punished. For bothering GM's for nonsense.</p><p>A global chat channel had been nice, but it need to be in addition to the level range channels.</p>

[TheSource123]

<p>It's amazing how some people feel it's their duty to "police" the channels. Either that or they just have no lives lol.</p><p>On Butcherblock we have this idiot called Boradmer, he spams 60-69 and 50-59 ALL DAY. And when you PM him and tell him to stop he says heintentionally pisses people off for fun. And when you tell him it's immature he says you're immature for getting mad about it...When the only person really mad about it is him, since he's blocked by pretty much everyone now.</p><p>Meh, some of these people need to go back to Toontown and leave EQ2 alone.</p>

[Birn]

Yes, you gotta be on the wrong server <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> On runnyeye there are often quite pleasant "spam" in the 60-69 channels and there are many who get their questions answered in q couple of mins

[Jerr]

<p>Come to Mistmoore if you want some good chatting.</p><p>I keep 1-9 on as I enjoy helping newer players.  Lots of helpful, mature people on Mistmoore. </p>

[Leemeg]

<cite>TheSource123 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It's amazing how some people feel it's their duty to "police" the channels. Either that or they just have no lives lol.</p><p>On Butcherblock we have this idiot called Boradmer, he spams 60-69 and 50-59 ALL DAY. And when you PM him and tell him to stop he says heintentionally pisses people off for fun. And when you tell him it's immature he says you're immature for getting mad about it...When the only person really mad about it is him, since he's blocked by pretty much everyone now.</p><p>Meh, some of these people need to go back to Toontown and leave EQ2 alone.</p></blockquote>That's not chatting. Its different between chatting and spamming, and its different between chatting and fill the channels with bs.

[tass]

sounds to me the op is on a server where the populance is [Removed for Content] they cant even compensate for being d&%#less

[Leafkiller]

<p>Given the combatative tone the OP is taking, and his talk of being banned...I get the feeling that we are only getting half the story here. It takes serious effort to get banned from chat...not a harmless comment every couple of hours.</p><p>'I might say something about the current news' - This is something that annoys me personally in game. I really, honestly, do not care what you think about current events. I don't play to hear you drone on about that sort of stuff. Ask a game related question, ask for help about anything game related and I'll happily help you...but the rest will at the very least get you ignored, and after a few instances /ignored. </p><p> Its especially annoying because it leads to long flamefests that usual end with namecalling and various slurs, and I don't play the game to have to put up with that nonsense.</p>

[MrWolfie]

<p>Jeez... EQ2 is NOT a glorified chat-server.</p><p>I really don't want to know about how your day was, or what's happening in the world (why the hell do you think I'm playing a fantasy game?!?). Your incessant prattle in public channels, especially ones deigned for another purpose (the trade channel on Splitpaw, for example) is an intrusion into my personal space, as unwelcome as plat-seller spam. Probably more so.</p><p>Keep your feeble opinions to yourself, or create your own channel for the purpose ~ one that I can opt out of. Use guildchat more (I cannot understand why people have to ask the same questions over and over in public channels when they're members of a guild that is 300+ strong) and learn how to use /tell.</p><p>Remember: when you open your mouth in public channels (to chat with one or a handful of peeps) you're inflicting yourself on thousands of other people. Don't be surprised if there's one amongst them that won't ignore you and tells you where to go.</p>

[erin]

<cite>avow wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>about once an hour or couple of hours i will bring something up in lowbie chat. I don't use sexist or racist remarks or swear words and actually spell most of the words correctly.  I might say something about the current news or '====gasp!!!---- ask something about the game or gameplay OR EVEN ASK FOR GROUP!</p><p>Then comes the "ST*U nub", "How do i get out of this channel?", "go to the forums", or a rant from someone complaing about all the conversation that goes on in chat. Guess what? I have been playing a few hours and NOTHING WAS BEING SAID FOR ABOUT TWO HOURS!  I checked my log, asked politely in chat and NOTHING WAS SAID FOR TWO HOURS! </p><p>Ok.  Guess what? I'm going to continue to make nice, meaningful one line chat statements once an hour or two or ask game questions. Report me. You get me banned then I talk nice to soe, who then continues to ban me better have a real good lawyer. </p><p>I am tired of these players who join massive online games and want ZERO conversation in chat then vilify and put down anyone who dares to interupt "their" game. Excuse me! I read the rules and have had tells with gm's in the past who have told me i can do what i am doing and was thanked for continuing to be civil and clean with my language. </p><p>A dead empty chat that goes on for hours in prime time, even if all it is is to ask for groups or game questions, is a pure sign of a dead game. I have seen it in other games and it is sad. If i want this I can go play any offline game.</p></blockquote>Based on the tone of this, I'm assuming that there's a lot more to this.  Like yesterday, on Blackburrow, some dude kept spamming "I don't like templar/inquis, what classes don't you like".  Might have started some chatting, but he was really rude and annoying about it, so it ended up him being flamed over it.  Or at least that's what it appeared, I got on half way through.  But he kept spamming that, and people kept yelling at him.  Apparently he was telling people in tells that he was just trying to annoy everyone. Maybe that was you? Nothing wrong with starting a chat, but it is wrong to bring too much outside stuff in, this is a fantasy game.  I hate when people start throwing the current football score in, and start discussing football (or other sports).  I generally leave the channel though, I don't yell at them.  There's no point.  Its not my channel, if people want to talk about things that annoy me, I leave.

[Mwahaha]

To the OP - I will report you for ruining my online gaming experience. <img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> You'll see all kinds of spam on Nagafen tbh.

[Themaginator]

is this all americans know how to do is sue when they dont like something?

[Talz]

Sashtan@Mistmoore wrote: <blockquote>is this all americans know how to do is sue when they dont like something? </blockquote>Yep.. and if we can't find something to not like.. we make something up! <img src="/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Themaginator]

i remember one time someone sued Nike because they tripped on their shoelaces and another sued Nabisco because there was no cream in one of their Oreos, this seems to be another one of those people, except in this case they cant sue SOE because they are under a EULA that says well we can ban you at anytime we see fit. personally i'm very glad thats there for people like this.

[Norrsken]

Looks like you are on a wow server and posting on the EQ2 forums. I have pretty much never seen stuff like that going on in EQ2 chat channels. Not even on naggy is that stuff rampant, and naggy is a glorified [Removed for Content] contest in the chat channels from time to time. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[bleap]

<cite>avow wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>about once an hour or couple of hours i will bring something up in lowbie chat. I don't use sexist or racist remarks or swear words and actually spell most of the words correctly.  I might say something about the current news or '====gasp!!!---- ask something about the game or gameplay OR EVEN ASK FOR GROUP!</p><p>Then comes the "ST*U nub", "How do i get out of this channel?", "go to the forums", or a rant from someone complaing about all the conversation that goes on in chat. Guess what? I have been playing a few hours and NOTHING WAS BEING SAID FOR ABOUT TWO HOURS!  I checked my log, asked politely in chat and NOTHING WAS SAID FOR TWO HOURS! </p><p>Ok.  Guess what? I'm going to continue to make nice, meaningful one line chat statements once an hour or two or ask game questions. Report me. You get me banned then I talk nice to soe, who then continues to ban me better have a real good lawyer. </p><p>I am tired of these players who join massive online games and want ZERO conversation in chat then vilify and put down anyone who dares to interupt "their" game. Excuse me! I read the rules and have had tells with gm's in the past who have told me i can do what i am doing and was thanked for continuing to be civil and clean with my language. </p><p>A dead empty chat that goes on for hours in prime time, even if all it is is to ask for groups or game questions, is a pure sign of a dead game. I have seen it in other games and it is sad. If i want this I can go play any offline game.</p></blockquote> That would be because the player base, or what's left of it, is quickly becoming what everyone here complains about WoW....Teen aged boys who have nothing better to do than run around challenging everyone to a duel and hiding behind the chat channels to be cyber bullies....In game support would go a long way to prevent this, but SOE is to cheap to spend money on it..

[liveja]

<cite>bleap wrote:</cite><blockquote>Teen aged boys who have nothing better to do than run around challenging everyone to a duel and hiding behind the chat channels to be cyber bullies....In game support would go a long way to prevent this, but SOE is to cheap to spend money on it.. </blockquote><p>You mean there are people who don't like dueling, who HAVEN'T yet checked the box for "auto-decline duel invitations"? & of course, if you have, you'll never know about the people who run around challening everyone to a duel.</p><p>As for chat channel "cyber-bullies" ... putting them on /ignore eliminates them pretty quickly. You don't have to put up with them, unless you for some unknown reason simply don't want to put people on /ignore. Why should SOE spend money to fix an "issue" you can fix all by yourself? </p>

[bleap]

Sashtan@Mistmoore wrote: <blockquote>is this all americans know how to do is sue when they dont like something? </blockquote> yep, we allowed lawyers to also become lawmakers in this country...Sort of like leting the fox guard the hen house...We are a law suit crazed country, and the only ones getting rich from it are the lawyers..

[bleap]

<cite>livejazz wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>bleap wrote:</cite><blockquote>Teen aged boys who have nothing better to do than run around challenging everyone to a duel and hiding behind the chat channels to be cyber bullies....In game support would go a long way to prevent this, but SOE is to cheap to spend money on it.. </blockquote><p>You mean there are people who don't like dueling, who HAVEN'T yet checked the box for "auto-decline duel invitations"? & of course, if you have, you'll never know about the people who run around challening everyone to a duel.</p><p>As for chat channel "cyber-bullies" ... putting them on /ignore eliminates them pretty quickly. You don't have to put up with them, unless you for some unknown reason simply don't want to put people on /ignore. Why should SOE spend money to fix an "issue" you can fix all by yourself? </p></blockquote>There is far more that in game support would do besides police trouble makers...But I suppose if you don't want people to have to take responsibilty for their in game behaviour the easiest way to "fix" the problem is to /ignore them... Yea I know all about the auto decline box, again, a cheap way to keep griefers from being forced to be responsible... But I suppose they would have to increase the station access fee to pay for the in game support for everyone..

[Mawie]

<cite>avow wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Ok.  Guess what? I'm going to continue to make nice, meaningful one line chat statements once an hour or two or ask game questions. Report me. You get me banned then I talk nice to soe, who then continues to ban me better have a real good lawyer. </p> </blockquote>Gonna agree with Sashtan here... besides, the EULA basically says SOE can ban you from whatever they want for whatever reason.

[bleap]

Mawie@Mistmoore wrote: <blockquote><cite>avow wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Ok.  Guess what? I'm going to continue to make nice, meaningful one line chat statements once an hour or two or ask game questions. Report me. You get me banned then I talk nice to soe, who then continues to ban me better have a real good lawyer. </p> </blockquote>Gonna agree with Sashtan here... besides, the EULA basically says SOE can ban you from whatever they want for whatever reason. </blockquote>I can pretty much guarantee him that SOE has more than one good lawyer....Sure you might have the priviledge to use the chat channels....so that means that the others who are telling you to ST*U don't? You sound just like one of the teen aged boys I was posting about...

[Mawie]

<cite>bleap wrote:</cite><blockquote>Mawie@Mistmoore wrote: <blockquote><cite>avow wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Ok.  Guess what? I'm going to continue to make nice, meaningful one line chat statements once an hour or two or ask game questions. Report me. You get me banned then I talk nice to soe, who then continues to ban me better have a real good lawyer. </p> </blockquote>Gonna agree with Sashtan here... besides, the EULA basically says SOE can ban you from whatever they want for whatever reason. </blockquote>I can pretty much guarantee him that SOE has more than one good lawyer....Sure you might have the priviledge to use the chat channels....so that means that the others who are telling you to ST*U don't? You sound just like one of the teen aged boys I was posting about... </blockquote>Where did I say they didn't? And I am a grown woman, thanks.

[liveja]

<cite>bleap wrote:</cite><blockquote>There is far more that in game support would do besides police trouble makers...But I suppose if you don't want people to have to take responsibilty for their in game behaviour the easiest way to "fix" the problem is to /ignore them... Yea I know all about the auto decline box, again, a cheap way to keep griefers from being forced to be responsible... </blockquote><p>I'm sorry, but I'm entirely confused as to your point. If you put someone on /ignore, they can't cause you any further problems in chat channels. If you auto-decline duels, you can't be "griefed" by those running around spamming duel challenges. What is the problem???</p><p>I'm not here to worry about whether or not someone else's ill-raised bratling can "take responsibility" for his/her rudeness. I couldn't care less, because I'm here to play a computer game for my own entertainment. Thus, I see far more profit in simply putting such nitwits on /ignore, than I do in coming to message boards & complaining about them.</p>

[bleap]

<cite>livejazz wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>bleap wrote:</cite><blockquote>There is far more that in game support would do besides police trouble makers...But I suppose if you don't want people to have to take responsibilty for their in game behaviour the easiest way to "fix" the problem is to /ignore them... Yea I know all about the auto decline box, again, a cheap way to keep griefers from being forced to be responsible... </blockquote><p>I'm sorry, but I'm entirely confused as to your point. If you put someone on /ignore, they can't cause you any further problems in chat channels. If you auto-decline duels, you can't be "griefed" by those running around spamming duel challenges. What is the problem???</p><p>I'm not here to worry about whether or not someone else's ill-raised bratling can "take responsibility" for his/her rudeness. I couldn't care less, because I'm here to play a computer game for my own entertainment. Thus, I see far more profit in simply putting such nitwits on /ignore, than I do in coming to message boards & complaining about them.</p></blockquote>So you condone griefing because you can ignore it....OK...Do you not call the police when you see someone breaking in to someone elses house too?

[bleap]

Mawie@Mistmoore wrote <blockquote><blockquote> <blockquote><cite>avow wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Ok.  Guess what? I'm going to continue to make nice, meaningful one line chat statements once an hour or two or ask game questions. Report me. You get me banned then I talk nice to soe, who then continues to ban me better have a real good lawyer. </p> </blockquote> </blockquote>I can pretty much guarantee him that SOE has more than one good lawyer....Sure you might have the priviledge to use the chat channels....so that means that the others who are telling you to ST*U don't? You sound just like one of the teen aged boys I was posting about... </blockquote>Where did I say they didn't? And I am a grown woman, thanks. </blockquote>I was responding to the OP, sorry...I quoted your post instead of the OP by mistake...

[liveja]

bleap wrote: <blockquote><p>So you condone griefing because you can ignore it</p></blockquote><p> I don't see where you get the idea I "condone" griefing <img src="/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Leafkiller]

<cite>bleap wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>livejazz wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>bleap wrote:</cite><blockquote>There is far more that in game support would do besides police trouble makers...But I suppose if you don't want people to have to take responsibilty for their in game behaviour the easiest way to "fix" the problem is to /ignore them... Yea I know all about the auto decline box, again, a cheap way to keep griefers from being forced to be responsible... </blockquote><p>I'm sorry, but I'm entirely confused as to your point. If you put someone on /ignore, they can't cause you any further problems in chat channels. If you auto-decline duels, you can't be "griefed" by those running around spamming duel challenges. What is the problem???</p><p>I'm not here to worry about whether or not someone else's ill-raised bratling can "take responsibility" for his/her rudeness. I couldn't care less, because I'm here to play a computer game for my own entertainment. Thus, I see far more profit in simply putting such nitwits on /ignore, than I do in coming to message boards & complaining about them.</p></blockquote>So you condone griefing because you can ignore it....OK...Do you not call the police when you see someone breaking in to someone elses house too? </blockquote><p>Honestly...what do you want? A large number of in-game babysitters? Since real life doesn't come with /ignore or the ability to 'auto-decline' burglars, I think maybe you need to rethink your rather silly example.</p><p>Its a game and the game has tools to allow me to ignore those that annoy me. I am an adult, and don't need a horde of in game baysitters making sure I behave. I also don't need some twit telling me about their views on current events, but thats ok, I can ignore the idiots and choose who I talk to. Others have the same ability, they can /ignore me too. Nothing here needs to change, there isn't a problem here. </p><p>You can't 'force' someone to take responsibility, the best you can do is punish them for not doing what you want, and the fix in this case would be worse than the problem.</p><p>If you can't find someone to chat with, its probably YOUR fault anyway... </p>

[Lornick]

<p>I don't really care for all the casual conversation stuff that goes on in level chat channels or other public chat channels.  But I don't rant and rave at the people who do those kind of things.  My chat screen looks something like this:</p><p>/4 60-69 chat: Raider087 Guild of uberness looking for select classes.  We raid Mon-Thu 7pm PST and weekends 6pm PST.  If interested send tell.</p><p>/ 60-69 chat: Villageidiot What's a raid?</p><p>Added ignore: Villageidiot</p><p>And that's it.  I don't send tells, I don't whine in chat channels.  I politely put the knuckleheads on ignore and go about my business.  It's kind of funny.  My ignore list is HUGE and yet I don't have any trouble finding or forming groups either.  It makes me wonder if the people who say stuff in chat all day even group...</p>