Does MetrosexualSwashbuckler break a lastname rule?

[Krontak]

<p>I'm just curios why my lastname rights would have been removed because of this.  No I don't play on a role server.  </p><p>I mean, if we really want to get into things not pertaining to the game then lets go ahead and start removing anything in game that is associated with real life things.  Go ahead and start removing all the cookies that were introduced in the last expansion having fun at the real world that were intertwined into not only NPC chat, but also thier names, quests and so forth.  I could argue that all this stuff just takes away from the real content and has no place in this MMORPG.</p><p>I'd really like to know where the line is to be drawn.  Either nothing from the real world is to be incorporated or anything can be so long as it isn't offensive.  </p><p>I'm not sure if whoever banned my privilage is aware but isn't a swashbucklers personality traight to be cunning, show bravado, charming.  Heck, we've even got a swashbucklers charm fun spell that makes women blush.  In my words MetrosexualSwashbuckler fits into this role perfectly.</p><p>Maybe the person didn't know what it meant.  I guess I'm just trying to get peoples opinions on if they somehow find this offensive or not.</p>

[bensilvi]

Someone reported ya and its up to soe to determine what is right/wrong.

[Galithdor]

It is a last name that has to do with sexuality...that is why it was removed lol check the naming policy

[Jesdyr]

I am fairly sure that having a class name as part of your lastname is against the name rules. Just like having titles in the name is breaking the rules.

[Galithdor]

<cite>JesDer wrote:</cite><blockquote>I am fairly sure that having a class name as part of your lastname is against the name rules. Just like having titles in the name is breaking the rules. </blockquote> Haha yep...i think so...but i think it was deleted more because of its refrence to sexuality...

[Krontak]

<p>I know Wikipidia isn't the one and final source but the first line says..</p><p> <b>Metrosexual</b> is a word describing men who have a strong concern for their <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aesthetic" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">aesthetic</a> appearance, and spend a substantial amount of time and money on their images and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifestyles" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">lifestyles</a>. Though the term has undergone a transformation from its original meaning (a heterosexual man who appeared or acted as if he were homosexual), current trends have seen the metrosexual label placed upon masculinity's embracing of practices usually perceived to be feminine, rather than those specifically associated with the homosexual. Debate surrounds the term's use as a theoretical signifier of gender deconstruction and its associations with consumerism. Current gender scholars view <b>metrosexuality</b> as representative of the embracing of relational understanding in addition to its lifestyle and aesthetic implications.</p><p>Maybe at one point yes, but as is apparent, I meant no sort of sexual innuendos.  It just seems like someone might have misinterpreted the meaning and was being a bit naive and prudish.</p>

[Allisia]

I'm sure some people would object to any name that had the word "sexual" in it, regardless of how it is used. I wouldn't report the name, but generally I'm not a fan of humorous names.

[Jesdyr]

Galithdor wrote: <blockquote> Haha yep...i think so...but i think it was deleted more because of its refrence to sexuality...</blockquote> That would be the most likely reason someone would report it. But the "easy way out" reason to change it (after it was reported) would be to point out using Swashbuckler is against the rules. We had a very messy guild takeover happen with someone claiming to work for SOE as a developer. Support does not take kindly to people claiming this and it will get someone banned. In the end I dont think they could ever find evidence this person made the claims (he had put the claim in guild notes), but he did end up with a new name since he had "Lord" in his name. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Krontak]

Sheesh....I was just trying to have a little fun.  Boo hiss to whomever reported me.  I guess I need to read the rules a little more closely.  I knew about the lord, king or whatever thing that related to titles.  I also knew not to use offensive last names with foul language.  I did not realize your name could have no likeness to your class.  I guess all those people with the word Tank in thier name better watch out.   Ok, next time I'll remove the Swashbuckler and just use Metrosexual then.

[ke'la]

<p>Metrosexual reguardless of its Sexuality conitations is a title given to people of a certain type, ie John Edwards the Metrosexual, while it has nothing to do with his sexuality it has to do with the fact that he keeps himself well quaffed. </p><p>Swashbuckler is also a title.</p><p>Therefor you have selftitled with your last name, (twice) and on top of that Metrosexual does still have some sexual conitations wiether it does for you or not.</p>

[Arinwulf]

<p>You need to understand that when it comes to even the word, "sex",  there are a lot of uptight people in some parts of this country.  Heck, there are some places where they teach their boys that they have a tallywacker as opposed to a, er,  its proper name.  I'd write it but it would probably just get bleeped for the reasons previously stated.</p><p> There will come a time when a lot of this crap will go away, but unfortunately its not likely in our lifetime.  We can only hope for the future.</p>

[Krontak]

ke'la wrote: <blockquote><p>Metrosexual reguardless of its Sexuality conitations is a title given to people of a certain type, ie John Edwards the Metrosexual, while it has nothing to do with his sexuality it has to do with the fact that he keeps himself well quaffed. </p><p>Swashbuckler is also a title.</p><p>Therefor you have selftitled with your last name, (twice) and on top of that Metrosexual does still have some sexual conitations wiether it does for you or not.</p></blockquote><p>Metrosexual is not a title.  Lol.  Now you're stretching it a bit.  Its a description or state of being such as being darring, having bravado or being charming.  And you are the first person I've heard refering to John Edwards as John Edwards the Metrosexual.  Was he just awarded this title through a recently passed bill?</p><p>Swashbuckler is my class and is in no way a tittle either unless I'm really missing something.  Now if the rules state that you cannot have your class in your lastname that is entirly another thing.  Please don't get me wrong.  I'm not arguing for the state of arguing.  But the reasons you provided don't seem to apply.</p>

[Daramm]

<cite>Krontak wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I mean, if we really want to get into things not pertaining to the game then lets go ahead and start removing anything in game that is associated with real life things.</p></blockquote>Please note it's not simply "anything that is associated with real life things;" it's "anything that is associated with real life things that would not be found in the place and time of the game."  Or, verbatim: 8. Common words and phrases that would not be found in the place and time setting of the game (e.g. Switchblade, Phaser, Toaster, Sloegin, Anyone). This includes references to drug substances or drug related paraphernalia. (e.g. Ecstacy, Cannibis) <span style="color: #ff0000"> </span> "Metrosexual" would not be found in the place and time setting of Norrath; it is very much a modern term, coined in the mid to late 90s.  And, it IS a play on words with "homosexual," using the stereotype of how homosexuals are generally perceived and applying it to heterosexuals.  As such, yes, it does have a sexual connotation.

[ke'la]

<cite>Krontak wrote:</cite><blockquote>ke'la wrote: <blockquote><p>Metrosexual reguardless of its Sexuality conitations is a title given to people of a certain type, ie John Edwards the Metrosexual, while it has nothing to do with his sexuality it has to do with the fact that he keeps himself well quaffed. </p><p>Swashbuckler is also a title.</p><p>Therefor you have selftitled with your last name, (twice) and on top of that Metrosexual does still have some sexual conitations wiether it does for you or not.</p></blockquote><p>Metrosexual is not a title.  Lol.  Now you're stretching it a bit.  Its a description or state of being such as being darring, having bravado or being charming.  And you are the first person I've heard refering to John Edwards as John Edwards the Metrosexual.  Was he just awarded this title through a recently passed bill?</p><p>Swashbuckler is my class and is in no way a tittle either unless I'm really missing something.  Now if the rules state that you cannot have your class in your lastname that is entirly another thing.  Please don't get me wrong.  I'm not arguing for the state of arguing.  But the reasons you provided don't seem to apply.</p></blockquote><p>Accually he is refurd to by some as "the breck girl" and is the posterboy for the Metrosexual. Also Darring and Charming CAN also be titles depending on usage, (ie John the Darring and Joe the Charming(droping the word the while does not meen that its not a title infact thats where most last names came from))</p><p>As for Swashbuckler again with the usage you are using it does make it a title because John Swashbuckler is short for John The Swashbuckler and therefor is a title. </p>

[Krontak]

<p>"Metrosexual" would not be found in the place and time setting of Norrath; it is very much a modern term, coined in the mid to late 90s. </p><p>Ah yes, "snakes on a plain" was a catch phrase coined shortly after the cataclysmal shattering.</p><p>I'm teasing but I see where this would go against the rules and for that I'll comply...but....(yeah there is always a but..)</p><p>I don't agree with it having any sort of sexual connotation as can be seen in the Wikipidia definition.  Meanings change as do definitions and they no longer pertain to thier derived origins.  Much like the ring around the rosie childrens song that refers to posie flowers that were used to throw over the dying of the great plague that swept Europe and western asia to hide the smell of rotting flesh.  The current definition has 0 to do with homosexuality and %100 to do with someone concerned about thier looks, as would a Charming Swashbuckler with a feather decorating his hat as does the childrens song currently has 100% to do with children dancing and singing rather than rotten or dying people that are to be burned and burried.</p><p>Anyways, as you can see its Friday and I really don't wanna work! <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Armawk]

<p>Its got nothing to do with sexual content (though anything containing the word sexual is likely to get pulled on the basis they might as well take a safe rather than a loose view) but has, as explained above, to do with its complete contextual innapropriateness. Its a high fantasy setting, is it REALLY that hard not to choose names that are not names at all but phrases or descriptions from the modern world? Really?</p>

[Tomanak]

<cite>Krontak wrote:</cite><blockquote>ke'la wrote: <p>Swashbuckler is my class and is in no way a tittle either unless I'm really missing something.  </p></blockquote> Not claiming this to be the case, but it is entirely possible it was chosen as one of the new AA titles.

[liveja]

<cite>Krontak wrote:</cite><blockquote>Ok, next time I'll remove the Swashbuckler and just use Metrosexual then.</blockquote><p>I've a feeling that will still get forcibly changed. </p>

[liveja]

Sugota@Butcherblock wrote: <blockquote><cite>Krontak wrote:</cite><blockquote>ke'la wrote: <p>Swashbuckler is my class and is in no way a tittle either unless I'm really missing something.  </p></blockquote> Not claiming this to be the case, but it is entirely possible it was chosen as one of the new AA titles. </blockquote><p>Swashbuckler is not one of the new AA titles. The AA titles for all Rogues are Blackguard, Pirate, Mercenary, Fencer, & Thief. </p>

[Krontak]

ke'la wrote: <blockquote><cite>Krontak wrote:</cite><blockquote>ke'la wrote: <blockquote><p>Metrosexual reguardless of its Sexuality conitations is a title given to people of a certain type, ie John Edwards the Metrosexual, while it has nothing to do with his sexuality it has to do with the fact that he keeps himself well quaffed. </p><p>Swashbuckler is also a title.</p><p>Therefor you have selftitled with your last name, (twice) and on top of that Metrosexual does still have some sexual conitations wiether it does for you or not.</p></blockquote><p>Metrosexual is not a title.  Lol.  Now you're stretching it a bit.  Its a description or state of being such as being darring, having bravado or being charming.  And you are the first person I've heard refering to John Edwards as John Edwards the Metrosexual.  Was he just awarded this title through a recently passed bill?</p><p>Swashbuckler is my class and is in no way a tittle either unless I'm really missing something.  Now if the rules state that you cannot have your class in your lastname that is entirly another thing.  Please don't get me wrong.  I'm not arguing for the state of arguing.  But the reasons you provided don't seem to apply.</p></blockquote><p>Accually he is refurd to by some as "the breck girl" and is the posterboy for the Metrosexual. Also Darring and Charming CAN also be titles depending on usage, (ie John the Darring and Joe the Charming(droping the word the while does not meen that its not a title infact thats where most last names came from))</p><p>As for Swashbuckler again with the usage you are using it does make it a title because John Swashbuckler is short for John The Swashbuckler and therefor is a title. </p></blockquote><p>So, if my name was Krontak Skullcrusher it would not be ok because I would then be Krontak The Skullcrusher?  Does your lastname not insinuate  "Of Ravenwood" which in tern could be a title given to people say of...</p><p><img src="http://www.ravenwoodcastle.com/r.gif" border="0">avenwood Castle sits atop the highest hill in scenic Vinton County's Swan township. Fifty acres of forest and large rock formations surround the castle which reached by a half-mile private road. </p><p>Possibly stating that you are of some official or representative of some Ravenwood Castle out there.  What if I chose the lastname Grayskull would that be O.K.?</p><p>I guess I'm confused on how Metrosexual could be interpreted as a title is all. </p>

[bks6721]

<cite>Krontak wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I guess I'm confused on how Metrosexual could be interpreted as a title is all. </p></blockquote> Your sig is Krontak the Metrosexual Gee,  I wonder.    Maybe you'd have more luck with Krontak Crossdresser

[sah]

<cite>Krontak wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So, if my name was Krontak Skullcrusher it would not be ok because I would then be Krontak The Skullcrusher?  Does your lastname not insinuate  "Of Ravenwood" which in tern could be a title given to people say of...</p></blockquote> Skullcrusher is fine, TheSkullcrusher is not fine, although I doubt anyone would report that...

[Echgar]

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