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Aedeia
04-10-2007, 11:14 AM
<p>Curious as a new player...which class would be better suited as a hunting partner from level 1 up, Zerker or Swashy? This is not a 2-box..basically husband and I are coming back and starting over (myself as a Fury) and he wants to go Zerker or Swashy.</p><p>Thanks</p>
TheBu
04-10-2007, 12:38 PM
<p>ask him about a Sk they can benifit from the int of a fury. They also get fd. but as far as a bez or swasy... not sure. . if ur a healer tank combo u can always find some dps. but a swashy is great for end game and raids..</p>
Lulian
04-10-2007, 03:17 PM
<p>I always liked the bruiser/fury combo personally. </p><p>If I had to choose between the two for just regular hunting purposes I would go zerker.</p>
Booyo
04-10-2007, 03:56 PM
<p>I reccomend a Swashy. Me and my buddy have leveled up with that same combo and I can tell you, IT ROCKS. We take multiple heroic groups down easily. I am a DPS specced Fury and he is a Tank specced swashy. He actually does amazingly well at tanking.</p><p> Boo</p>
bubbaj6
04-10-2007, 05:51 PM
Fully buffed, you will have one slot to Vim another person, making a Fury in a duo very efficient. Vim adds INT, and Rogues use INT to calculate dmg on their poisons, I believe. Warriors (zerkers and guards) do not use INT at all. A Swash will not hold aggro as well as a Zerker, but it shouldn't be too bad. You may give thought to rolling a Warden, as they buff dps types better and are easier on healing. Also, I'd rather have two evacing chars than two group invising chars. If you're deadset on a Fury, then consider what TheBuzZ said and try a Crusader. SKs are fairly fun to play and a Paladin's amends will mean he never lose aggro to you, no matter how much you try. Plus they both use INT to consider damage on half of their abilities/spells. I duo'd with a Paladin to 70 and loved it. I think the best healer (in a duo) for a Swashbuckler is a Warden. (melee-oriented buffs, ability to spec to combat arts) I think the best healer (in a duo) for a Berzerker is an Inquisitor. (Mitigation tanks make the most out of reactive healing, plus DPS buffs)
Ciarr
04-11-2007, 01:24 AM
<p>best partners for fury in order:</p><p>SK, SK, SK, SK ( <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ) , zerk, monk/bruiser, swashy/brigand</p><p>the adventage of having a tank like SK or zerk over scouts is the fact that you can survive multiple mob encounters a lot better and go against named mob and stand a good chance of winning</p><p>theoretically you can achive a good survivality with swashy too, but it requires some AA investments (sta line), tanks work a little better in duos because they are designed primary for fighting face to face with a target, swashies in duos very often let the healer tank to achive the best results and fury isn't exactly the best healer to take damage</p>
Oldlore
04-12-2007, 08:15 PM
" You may give thought to rolling a Warden, as they buff dps types better" Eh? Furies are far and away better dps buffers than wardens. A warden has no buff that increases dps but heals a little better with regens and a heal proc and will have less personal dps than the fury. You get evac tho compared to grp invis on the fury.
Myedved
04-13-2007, 10:45 AM
My wife and I tried a few combinations before settling on Monk/Fury, which we played up to 70. We tried ranger/fury, paladin/fury and neither seemed as good as monk/fury. If I HAD to pick, I'd go swash/fury in your case. Once you start nuking as a fury the zerker will go insane trying to hold agro, if he bothers to even try. Might as well go solid dps.
silentpsycho
04-14-2007, 06:52 PM
<cite>Oldlore wrote:</cite><blockquote>" You may give thought to rolling a Warden, as they buff dps types better" Eh? Furies are far and away better dps buffers than wardens. A warden has no buff that increases dps but heals a little better with regens and a heal proc and will have less personal dps than the fury. You get evac tho compared to grp invis on the fury. </blockquote>Personally, I think the Warden/Fury + Swashy/Brigdand is one of the best self contained duo pairs. I think a Warden will heal slightly better and has an extra evac, but a Fury certainly has better melee buffs to offer.
Radigazt
04-15-2007, 12:15 AM
<p>A Fury's versatility makes duoing great. There are a lot of good choices including Bruiser, Monk, Swashbuckler, Brigand, Warden ... but just about anything duo's well with a Fury. </p><p>I'd definitely recommend a Swashbuckler. They're a tankish class when using a shield, pump out superior DPS--especially in T6 and T7, Track, Evac, drop target, etc. all while stunning, debuffing and flat out DPS'ing very very well. IMHO, the Berserker is nowhere near as good as the Swashbuckler in any tier, and when you have a Fury to both heal and DPS, it's a great combo. </p><p>Of note: If you're starting from scratch, you might consider rolling on a PvP server--I'd suggest Nagafen as it is the most populated. If you do though, you absolutely need to have a scout to track ... and coincidently, the Swashbuckler is the best of all scouts ... and frankly the best PvP character overall too. </p><p>My top 4 duos for a Fury would be in order from best to 4th best: 1) Fury/Swashy, 2) Fury/Brigand, 3) Fury/Bruiser, and Fury/Warden. IMHO, you can't go wrong with any of those 4 in PvE. For PvP, it would be mandatory to have a scout of some sort, with the Swashy or Brigand being by far the best combo. </p>
SpritRaja
04-15-2007, 12:58 AM
Not sure why you would go for a fury/warden duo. Most of the buffs don't stack. Their specialty heals also don't stack. If you need a healer class to help out with healing then I would pick an inquisitor or defiler. A paladin would be even better. If you are taking the warden for their roots than a wizzy/warlock can do better with superior dps.
BobTheBard
04-20-2007, 03:36 PM
<p>Well if he is considering Swashy or Zerker he knows what he wants and has done some research... while a crusader is a decent pick also they have some issues... like for instance most people don't take them on raids.... that's a sore spot with alot of those people.</p><p>I'm a 2 boxer... I will tell you hands down I love my Fury/Zerker combo... and I would not have wanted it any other way. I have taken it to the end game... I'm not just talking low levels.</p><p>A moderately DPS Spec'd zerker with a fury Agitate buff on in offensive is not a tank-class anymore... it's a killing machine. True it can tank... and by the nature of it's huge DPS it has to tank... but it doesn't feel so much like a tank.</p><p>so a Zerker with buckler line in offensive vs a swashy in defensive with a shield.... I think the zerker will still have the edge in mitigation... and the swashy might on DPS... consider this... you can't backstab while tanking... well you can on heroics... but it's work and requires a little more room.</p><p>You don't need the swashy invis... what you want from swashy is tracking and evac.... along these lines... the person who mentioned the SK... well they get evac so then you are just down to tracking ;-p But thier DPS is lower... SK is solid in a duo or PVP though... good tanking.. good aggro... mediocre DPS... but great spike damage for bosses and self healing. It's on raids where they kind of come a little short.... not HORRIBLE... just not up to par with Zerker and Swashy.</p><p>Ask your husband this... does he want to tank when you join a group? If he picks zerker he will be the tank... all the time.... if he picks swashy he can sometimes take it easy and go DPS.... No one would pick a Swashy over a real tank unless there was a gigantic difference in AA's, lvl, or gear.</p><p>Also... 9/10 times a group can't form because they are short a tank or a healer... you can write your own ticket as Fury+zerker.... you will be given a guilt trip at times when you log at the same time because the group falls apart... but oh well.</p><p>As far as Fury vs Warden goes... they both buff tanks equally but differently... </p><p>Fury = more DPS, less healing, group invis, best on whites and under (speed kills via dps/haste buffs) Warden = less DPS, more healing, evac, best on oranges and reds (hard kills via skill boost buffs)</p>
<p>My SO and I play a Zerker/Fury combo.</p><p>Her Fury is DPS speced while my Zerker has gone the STA AA route ... i.e., we've both tried to squeeze out as much DPS as possible. The typical tank/healer duo while having nice survivablity runs into problems against Heroics and named mobs due to insufficient DPS. </p><p>I have no issues holding aggro -- even during those times when we're fighting a large group or even groups of mobs. And I think it's this ability that supercedes a Swashie -- I do not believe the Swashbuckler is going to be able to maintain aggro against groups of mobs, and if the Fury finds herself with a ton of mobs whacking her she's going to have a very difficult time getting off a spell cast. As the game is designed, you're going to find yourself fighting multiple mobs most of the time. </p><p>We've done quite alright for ourselves -- we do not raid nor do we group, with the exception of completing some Heritage quests. We had a bit of a rough spot in the 30's -- but these were our original characters, played after the game had been live for months on a mature server. We could not afford anything from the broker at the time, so had to make due with what we could scrounge on our own. It's a very fun duo, and gets stronger as you level.</p>
Kage8
04-26-2007, 07:35 PM
I cant speak on the Swashy class cause i dont know alot about them....But from my exp i have played a 70 Zerker/Fury all the way up and im not sure there is a better duel-box in the game...The dps is increadable.... They are both dps speced....Zerker Sta/Wis line and has gotin his recast timers on Destruction/Open Wounds down to 2m 35 sec...and Fury is Int speced so far and Energy speced... At any givein time i can have my zerker hit Destruction/Open Wounds and or Insolint Gibe....I aint losing agro no matter what. When i tank i even hit Juggernuaght and have no worries loseing 1k Mit, avoid,resists, ect ect. I have only tried to duo a few zones but i have done the following.. Palace of the Awakened ( Both Dragons and Emnity or how ever u spell it lol ) Sanctum of the Scaleborn ( There is no mob safe in there, except the Epic X2 ) Den of the Devourer Nest of the Great Egg And i will be trying other zones like HoF, OoB and Valdoon, although i dont think i can finish any of them...should be fun =0) Again i dont know what the Swashy brings to the table, but i like my plate dpsing badass Zerker myself... Oh PS: I know you said your not Duel-Boxing, but i still think everything I typed is still true for the Duo Team as well.
Sabri
05-04-2007, 08:30 AM
<p>pfft haha SWASHY! All the way! :p Zerkers are awesome and all and have great dps for a tank, but it doesnt come close to a swashy. I regularly do unrest with a swashy tank and he keeps aggro just fine-I can solo heal him through the zone too, it all depends on the player though, if they want to go swashy they can tank great for you but make sure it's a class they are really going to be into give their all, you shouldn't be disappionted <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>
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