Question for Multi boxers

[Tib]

<p>Ok, I did a search for this but didn't find any good info really.  So here is the situation :</p><p> I have a good friend that played EQ1 for 5 years.  There he played literally 8 toons at once a lot of the time.  It is very easy to do in EQ1.  He finally has decided to start EQ2 but obviously can't just play 1 toon.  So he decided to play 5 toons on 2 computers (which can be done with his setup).</p><p><b><u>He is playing Bruiser as the tank and Defiler as the healer</u></b>.  He will not change those 2, that is set in stone.  Now the healer and tank will both be on the same computer as well as the buff BOT... now by bot I mean it will never do anything in combat except its active buffs.  This spot will be for 1 of 4 classes : Dirge, Troub, Coercer or Illus.  Computer number 2 will be for his remaining 2.</p><p>Now here is the question : With what I told you above, what would be the best remaining 3 toons (buff bot and the 2 others) that would make his group the most rounded and the ability to group most T7 instances?  Remember, he is boxing 5 toons, so ease of play is a factor.  Obviously he could never do something like Ranger or Assassin or something that requires constant moving and positioning.</p><p>I was thinking like Dirge, Necro, Conj.  Or like Illusionist, Warlock, Warlock.  Stuff like that.</p><p>What do you guys think would be the overall best and still feasable to actually play at a high level?</p><p> Thanks in advance for any help.</p><p>P.S.  Please refrain from diverting this thread to rants or criticisms about how he wants to play... Just wanted some peoples opinion that have a thorough knowledge of the classes.</p>

[bubbaj6]

You should ask Fasopdiuojf2iond, he/she's on Kithicor and mostly in Pillars of Flame. jk In all seriousness, from what I've seen, aggro is the hardest issue when multiboxing. My suggestion: Bruiser Defiler Conjuror (same as necro but they have a dmg proc they can put on someone else) Dirge (hate buff for Bruiser will help and obvious melee-focused songs, ~50% runspeed) Illusionist (has pet to send or can just buff group) Doing this, you can play the bruiser, alt-tab to the healer whenever necessary. On the other computer, send both pets and have them just mishmashing spells/CAs. Group has a Fighter, Priest, Scout and two Mages now. (pretty well-rounded) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Another suggestion is Bruiser Defiler Coercer (hate buff -- again, this is paramount when multiboxing and keeping mobs stuck on one person -- possible pet, buffs on group) Necro (send pet) Troubadour (will help casters look better and give ~50% runspeed to group) Group has a Fighter, Priest, Scout, and two Mages. All of these classes can live in Freeport.

[Jai1]

Umm, why?  I used to work with a guy that played 5ish EQ1 toons on different boxes.  He eventually burned out.  I would too.  I boxed 2 at once and that will wear on you after a while.  Not my bag maybe.  I boxed VG and MxO recently and those are easier, I feel, than EQ2.  Just suggest to him to try 2 and surely not use any 3rd party software.  With macros and things like the G15, I imagine it's possible.  Makes me tired thinking about it.  I'd rather box 2 and make a group for the rest of the slots.  Those toons run themselves. 

[bubbaj6]

Tibbz@The Bazaar wrote: <blockquote><p>P.S.  Please refrain from diverting this thread to rants or criticisms about how he wants to play... Just wanted some peoples opinion that have a thorough knowledge of the classes.</p></blockquote> QFE. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> If I think of more Tibbz, I'll let you know. I have 18 characters that I've leveled for a total of 800 something levels. So feel free to ask any questions.

[Firam]

The bruiser+defiler is a good combo to 2box with.  I hit 70 on my bruiser playing solo, bought a new PC, and then got a new account to box with it.  Defiler was the most logical choice for a healer that needed as little attention as possible.  Macro the debuffs.  Ward once in awhile.  Viola. As far as buffbots or easily playable characters for the rest, a bard is probably your best bet for buffs (either one - depending on your overall group makeup), and a wizard can't be beat for easy playability as an extra box.  Technically a ranger could just sit back and do decent autoattack DPS, so they'd probably give the best return of "boxing effort vs effectiveness" for the group, and with a few extra macros could pop off their large CA's once in awhile. Really though you aren't going to be able to pull off a 5 man group with any real effectiveness unless you use some kind of 3rd party program... and stay away from that.  Don't need to get banned over something like that.

[Bastus]

<p>I think its a good choice to have a shaman healer. The wards are perfect for reducing stress (which you really want when playing more than 1 char at once). You only need to alt-tab to your healer everytime you see your wards are about to go, leaving you to focus on your main char (which should be the dps/tank when you multibox). Logically, the main char should be able to dish out good dps, and at the same time be able to withstand a good beating as well. A bruiser is the evil relative to the swashbuckler, and is actually pretty difficult to play when twoboxing because of their positional attacks. With a bruiser main, I wouldnt think you'd have much time left for any toon other than your healer. In addition, although bruisers can tank somewhat, they wont hold a candle to true tanking classes like zerkers or guardian. Although, in a multi-boxing team setup, i can clearly see the benefit of a bruiser main.</p><p>You can rank the classes into how difficult they are to play (referring to positional attacks, process attacks etc). from 1-5 where 1 is least difficult, i'd say that</p><ul><li>the Shaman: 2 (easy healing)</li><li>the Bruiser: 5 (positional attacks)</li></ul><p>and for other alternatives:</p><ul><li>Illusionist as buffbot: 1 </li><li>Wizzard: 3 (no positional, but they do have some buttons to push too)</li><li>Warlock: 4 (see wizzard + aggro)</li><li>Fury: 3 (can heal and nuke, but heals are short and intenst. Lots of buttons to push)</li></ul><p>I could list more, but I dont have time <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I'd like to suggest that you get a fury into one of the three free slots. It will give you extra healing when needed, and brings extra firepower. A wizzard is a good dps too, and I suggest you bring one to fill the 4th slot. For the fith slot I agree with above poster - take an illusionist.</p>

[MullenSkywatcher]

Bastus@Splitpaw wrote: <blockquote><p>A bruiser is the evil relative to the swashbuckler, and is actually pretty difficult to play when twoboxing because of their positional attacks. </p></blockquote> I think you meant to say Brigand instead of Bruiser.

[erin]

Omni@Najena wrote: <blockquote>Umm, why?  I used to work with a guy that played 5ish EQ1 toons on different boxes.  He eventually burned out.  I would too.  I boxed 2 at once and that will wear on you after a while.  Not my bag maybe.  I boxed VG and MxO recently and those are easier, I feel, than EQ2.  Just suggest to him to try 2 and surely not use any 3rd party software.  With macros and things like the G15, I imagine it's possible.  Makes me tired thinking about it.  I'd rather box 2 and make a group for the rest of the slots.  Those toons run themselves. </blockquote>It requires no 3rd party software.  If someone wants to play 2, 3, or 10 chars at once, what difference does it make to you?  Just because you prefer no more than 2 doesn't mean this guy will.  I know that if I didn't box, I would have quit months ago.  I only 2 box, but that's what I enjoy, 3 or more is a lot of work! As to the OP, I like a troub because even if they aren't actively fighting they are a huge contributor.  Then anything with a strong pet, because you can send in the pet and be doing damage with a single mouse click.  I generally don't like more than 1 scout, because they need to maneuver too much.

[Espyderman]

Tibbz@The Bazaar wrote: <blockquote><p>Ok, I did a search for this but didn't find any good info really.  So here is the situation :</p><p> I have a good friend that played EQ1 for 5 years.  There he played literally 8 toons at once a lot of the time.  It is very easy to do in EQ1.  He finally has decided to start EQ2 but obviously can't just play 1 toon.  So he decided to play 5 toons on 2 computers (which can be done with his setup).</p><p><b><u>He is playing Bruiser as the tank and Defiler as the healer</u></b>.  He will not change those 2, that is set in stone.  Now the healer and tank will both be on the same computer as well as the buff BOT... now by bot I mean it will never do anything in combat except its active buffs.  This spot will be for 1 of 4 classes : Dirge, Troub, Coercer or Illus.  Computer number 2 will be for his remaining 2.</p><p>Now here is the question : With what I told you above, what would be the best remaining 3 toons (buff bot and the 2 others) that would make his group the most rounded and the ability to group most T7 instances?  Remember, he is boxing 5 toons, so ease of play is a factor.  Obviously he could never do something like Ranger or Assassin or something that requires constant moving and positioning.</p><p>I was thinking like Dirge, Necro, Conj.  Or like Illusionist, Warlock, Warlock.  Stuff like that.</p><p>What do you guys think would be the overall best and still feasable to actually play at a high level?</p><p> Thanks in advance for any help.</p><p>P.S.  Please refrain from diverting this thread to rants or criticisms about how he wants to play... Just wanted some peoples opinion that have a thorough knowledge of the classes.</p></blockquote>Tell him its an MMO and to make some friends. As for people who two box or more. This is a Social game and your making it solo? Kinda redundant if you ask me. But i guess if you want all the uber lootz and you dont want to share 2 boxing is the way to go!

[liveja]

<cite>Espyderman wrote:</cite><blockquote>Tell him its an MMO and to make some friends. As for people who two box or more. This is a Social game and your making it solo? Kinda redundant if you ask me. But i guess if you want all the uber lootz and you dont want to share 2 boxing is the way to go! </blockquote><p><img src="/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p><img src="/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Way to completely derail the thread. As long as the person isn't actually breaking the rules, it's none of your business how he plays.</p><p>As for the OP's question, I wouldn't suggest classes that need positioning. Bruiser-Defiler, then 2-3 Sorcerors. </p>

[Targ]

Tibbz@The Bazaar wrote: <blockquote><p><b><u>He is playing Bruiser as the tank and Defiler as the healer</u></b>.  He will not change those 2, that is set in stone.  Now the healer and tank will both be on the same computer as well as the buff BOT... now by bot I mean it will never do anything in combat except its active buffs.  This spot will be for 1 of 4 classes : Dirge, Troub, Coercer or Illus.  Computer number 2 will be for his remaining 2.</p><p>I was thinking like Dirge, Necro, Conj.  Or like Illusionist, Warlock, Warlock.  Stuff like that.</p></blockquote><p>As Bruiser and Defiler are set and both Freeport based the rest of his group needs to be evil or neutral, that removes Troub, Illus, and Conj from consideration. It is just too much trouble moving around if some of the group is based in another city.</p><p>For a Buffer use a Dirge it will give the most benefit with the least amount of attention, zero attention in this case. Plus when not in combat the scouts tracking is very handy. And another evac to move around with is a big plus.</p><p>Moving is one of the most trouble some issues when boxing so you definatly need someone in the group with port capablity. He must get at least one Fury, Wizard or Warlock into the group. For the other two spots I would go Wizard and Necro, both quite easy to play without lots of attention, no postioning required, just macro up the  nukes and have at it. Plus the Wizard will give him the teleports and another evac.</p><p>One point, the healer and the tank require the most attention, and you say he is going to put them both on the same computer, I would not do that. I suggest he group Healer with caster and tank with caster, so he can be active on the tank and healer and then flip over to the casters when action permits. I don't know how well it is going to work sharing toons on one computer in anycase. I will have to say I don't play that way.  I Six box using 6 seperate computers. And third party software is not ever used.  </p>

[bubbaj6]

<cite>Espyderman wrote:</cite><blockquote>Tell him its an MMO and to make some friends. As for people who two box or more. This is a Social game and your making it solo? Kinda redundant if you ask me. But i guess if you want all the uber lootz and you dont want to share 2 boxing is the way to go! </blockquote> Again, Espyderman: <i>"P.S.  Please refrain from diverting this thread to rants or criticisms about how he wants to play... Just wanted some peoples opinion that have a thorough knowledge of the classes." </i>I wish people would repress the urge to give their oft-misguided opinion on everything they read in the forums. Even moreso, I wish people would read the OP's post and <b>pay attention to what they're asking and requesting</b>. What ever happened to "If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all." Bleh.

[Binford]

<cite>Targ wrote:</cite><blockquote>Tibbz@The Bazaar wrote: <blockquote><p><b><u>He is playing Bruiser as the tank and Defiler as the healer</u></b>.  He will not change those 2, that is set in stone.  Now the healer and tank will both be on the same computer as well as the buff BOT... now by bot I mean it will never do anything in combat except its active buffs.  This spot will be for 1 of 4 classes : Dirge, Troub, Coercer or Illus.  Computer number 2 will be for his remaining 2.</p><p>I was thinking like Dirge, Necro, Conj.  Or like Illusionist, Warlock, Warlock.  Stuff like that.</p></blockquote><p>As Bruiser and Defiler are set and both Freeport based the rest of his group needs to be evil or neutral, that removes Troub, Illus, and Conj from consideration. It is just too much trouble moving around if some of the group is based in another city.</p><p>For a Buffer use a Dirge it will give the most benefit with the least amount of attention, zero attention in this case. Plus when not in combat the scouts tracking is very handy. And another evac to move around with is a big plus.</p><p>Moving is one of the most trouble some issues when boxing so you definatly need someone in the group with port capablity. He must get at least one Fury, Wizard or Warlock into the group. For the other two spots I would go Wizard and Necro, both quite easy to play without lots of attention, no postioning required, just macro up the  nukes and have at it. Plus the Wizard will give him the teleports and another evac.</p><p>One point, the healer and the tank require the most attention, and you say he is going to put them both on the same computer, I would not do that. I suggest he group Healer with caster and tank with caster, so he can be active on the tank and healer and then flip over to the casters when action permits. I don't know how well it is going to work sharing toons on one computer in anycase. I will have to say I don't play that way.  I Six box using 6 seperate computers. And third party software is not ever used.  </p></blockquote>FYI Troubadour is Neutral and therefore can be played from either city.

[Specteral]

Most I've ever done is 2box, but judging by your data there I'd think: Bruiser Defiler Necro Dirge/Troub (Not sure which honestly...  Personally I'd probably go Dirge for the extra hate buff) Wizzard Tank with the bruiser, set up some in-game debuff macros for the defiler, swap to and ward as needed.  Run the bard mostly as a buffer, turning on autoattack and casting an attack as available, send in the pet with the necro and cast spells as available, fire off rounds with the wizzy and call it a day.  Can also have the necro FD and Rez if things go bad (after level 40 for FD and ...  48? for self-rez, till then just make sure the defiler casts feathers). You going to try to fill the sixth slot in his group?  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Targ]

Exzema@Crushbone wrote: <blockquote><cite>Targ wrote:</cite><blockquote>Tibbz@The Bazaar wrote: <blockquote><p><b><u>He is playing Bruiser as the tank and Defiler as the healer</u></b>.  He will not change those 2, that is set in stone.  Now the healer and tank will both be on the same computer as well as the buff BOT... now by bot I mean it will never do anything in combat except its active buffs.  This spot will be for 1 of 4 classes : Dirge, Troub, Coercer or Illus.  Computer number 2 will be for his remaining 2.</p><p>I was thinking like Dirge, Necro, Conj.  Or like Illusionist, Warlock, Warlock.  Stuff like that.</p></blockquote><p>As Bruiser and Defiler are set and both Freeport based the rest of his group needs to be evil or neutral, that removes Troub, Illus, and Conj from consideration. It is just too much trouble moving around if some of the group is based in another city.</p><p>For a Buffer use a Dirge it will give the most benefit with the least amount of attention, zero attention in this case. Plus when not in combat the scouts tracking is very handy. And another evac to move around with is a big plus.</p><p>Moving is one of the most trouble some issues when boxing so you definatly need someone in the group with port capablity. He must get at least one Fury, Wizard or Warlock into the group. For the other two spots I would go Wizard and Necro, both quite easy to play without lots of attention, no postioning required, just macro up the  nukes and have at it. Plus the Wizard will give him the teleports and another evac.</p><p>One point, the healer and the tank require the most attention, and you say he is going to put them both on the same computer, I would not do that. I suggest he group Healer with caster and tank with caster, so he can be active on the tank and healer and then flip over to the casters when action permits. I don't know how well it is going to work sharing toons on one computer in anycase. I will have to say I don't play that way.  I Six box using 6 seperate computers. And third party software is not ever used.  </p></blockquote>FYI Troubadour is Neutral and therefore can be played from either city. </blockquote>My mistake, I believe I would go Troubadour then. The Troub has better defensive buffs which make the battle longer effectively giving you more time to make fight, cast heals etc.