Average level to get a mount?

[Nick4591]

<p>For someone who does not recieve any money from other characters, how long would you suspect it to take for that person to be able to afford a mount? Lets say that it is that person's first character, and they are not overly active in the trade skill economy. Am I correct in my estimate of lvl 35-40?</p>

[ke'la]

<cite>Nick4591 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>For someone who does not recieve any money from other characters, how long would you suspect it to take for that person to be able to afford a mount? Lets say that it is that person's first character, and they are not overly active in the trade skill economy. Am I correct in my estimate of lvl 35-40?</p></blockquote>It depends on the class and where you do your "hunting", as there are some quests that give lots of coin, in the right areas, and hunting "talking" creatures gives a better chance at more coin, as well. But I think I got my first horse at around 40ish, but if your class is one that is expencive to run, ie. has expencive spells or uses alot of consumables, then it may pospone it some... also if you have a high lvl willing to help you at ~45 you can do the "Carpet Quest" for a free carpet.

[Littleflame]

I am pretty sure my first higher level char had her 40% speed horse (without guild level or status) level 35ish (really hard to remember but I know she had the horse before the DoF and carpets were out and then even had to level up to get the carpet she never used). It just needs some conscious effort on making the money on broker etc. I can't really quess on the others cause they have received money help. Carpet at level 42 is popular these days though.

[ThE_GuN]

Actualy, I have two level 70's and one level 50, and I have yet to buy myself a horse... its not realy that I'v never had the money, but more than I have wanted other things, heh... I'd rather have one or two master spells than buy a horse, I have the carpet on one of my characters, the other is a warden so it's not needed. The distances you travel is this game arnt realy that great anyways, you can easly get from almost anywhere to anywhere else within 10-15 mins, so why spend alot of money on a horse when the loading time is usualy the longest way on your jouney, anyways, as the people above have said, you shouldnt expect to afford one till high 40s. Happy travels <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[mdell]

<cite>Littleflame wrote:</cite><blockquote>I am pretty sure my first higher level char had her 40% speed horse (without guild level or status) level 35ish (really hard to remember but I know she had the horse before the DoF and carpets were out and then even had to level up to get the carpet she never used). It just needs some conscious effort on making the money on broker etc. I can't really quess on the others cause they have received money help. Carpet at level 42 is popular these days though. </blockquote><p> I got my 32% horse in the mid 30's, but i did pay with status as well as coin.  I think it was about 2.5 plat although im not sure.</p><p>The 40% horse by level 35 without status would take some serious work(or turning off xp).  I would recommend getting the </p><p>24 or 32% horse (do a few writs or heritage quests for the status) and then doing the carpet quest.  </p><p>I know i couldn't start the carpet quest until 47, and i'm pretty sure that has not changed.</p><p>Oh also in the last update they made the carpets back up at normal speed while the horses are SLOW </p><p>(my favorite update ever until the next one)</p>

[Didi]

<cite>Nick4591 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>For someone who does not recieve any money from other characters, how long would you suspect it to take for that person to be able to afford a mount? Lets say that it is that person's first character, and they are not overly active in the trade skill economy. Am I correct in my estimate of lvl 35-40?</p></blockquote><p>This is kind of a "how long is a piece of string" type question that has so many possible variables that, without knowing more, it's not possible to give you an accurate answer.</p><p>You don't need to be given money and you don't need to do any tradeskills to afford a horse.  You will however find that you can afford a horse much faster if you do sell things (non-tradeskill things) on the broker.  What level you are when you get that horse depends a lot on how often you play, how fast you level, and how much time you want to spend acquiring money!</p><p>When I switched servers, I started a brand new character, didn't know anybody, had no money at all and a level 1 toon.  I had afforded a 9p horse by the time I reached level 20.  But, that's because I deliberately went out with the intention to earn a horse, and I spent a few evenings collecting things to sell on the broker, instead of levelling up hunting.  If I had ONLY gone out hunting and only sold the stuff I acquired during the course of hunting?  Probably 35-45 would have been reasonable, since I'd have been levelling up faster and earning less money while I did so.  If you want to slow down your adventuring and spend an hour or so each day attempting to earn money, you could probably earn a 5p horse within a week.  Harvest, sell harvests, sell rares, sell collectible ? sparklies, sell any items you loot or quest that are treasured or better, check out <a href="http://www.lootrun.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.lootrun.com</a> for named-hunting tips, there's lots of options.</p><p>I guess the best answer is that you'll have that horse when you decide that it's worth the time and effort to get it, really!  <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p>

[Spyderbite]

I had 2 plat by the end of my 3rd day playing and within 2 weeks had 5 plat. All I did was harvest and sell everything on the broker. So unless there's a level limitation on horse whistles you could have a horse before you dinged level 10 or 11.

[terraxx]

I got my horse at lvl 24 - but I'd been playing that toon almost daily for four months, and focused mostly on obtaining loot and rares to sell on the broker.  It was a big hit to my bank, which I regretted...  since I'm a warden, lol.

[Bozidar]

<cite>Nick4591 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>For someone who does not recieve any money from other characters, how long would you suspect it to take for that person to be able to afford a mount? Lets say that it is that person's first character, and they are not overly active in the trade skill economy. Am I correct in my estimate of lvl 35-40?</p></blockquote> I exiled a toon to Qeynos (pvp server, so no help from fp side) and sent him over there broke.  He was lvl 10 at the time.  He came back over at level 15 on a horse, with 20 plat in the bank.

[Kellin]

<p>When I started a character on a PvP server, I managed to get the 32% horse, non-status version, at about level 20.  I was concentrating specifically on saving for it, as I played a caster, and in PvP, the strategic retreat (Run away!  Run away!) is materially aided by having a horse.  The PvP environment made the money harder to earn, as harvesting and collecting is not the safest occupation, so it's possible on a PvE server I could have made the cash more quickly.  I was aided by the fact that I already knew the game and how to make money.</p><p>My first character, however, didn't manage to buy a horse on her own.  A guildie gave me the money for it, as I'd been away from the game for a while, and as everyone else had a 40% mount already, waiting for me to catch up was too annoying.  He was rich, anyway.  She was level 35 at the time, and had just over a plat to her name.  I'd stopped playing in about March or April of '05, and at that time, a plat was still a fairly outrageous amount of money (for most normal players, anyway).  Very few people had horses, and they were all either from the big guilds or had made a mint tradeskilling.  When I came back a year later, it seemed like everyone had carpets or horses.</p><p>Now, of course, all my alts get a horse.  I don't twink much, but I hate running slow.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Wytie]

<cite>Nick4591 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>For someone who does not recieve any money from other characters, how long would you suspect it to take for that person to be able to afford a mount? Lets say that it is that person's first character, and they are not overly active in the trade skill economy. Am I correct in my estimate of lvl 35-40?</p></blockquote> level 10 on pvp servers <img src="/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Argul]

<p>I haven't even been playing for 2 months, and I have a horse, mastercrafted equipment, a 2 room house. What I suggest, to get expensive items at a low level, is everytime you see a glimmer of gold, HARVEST IT. And before you add it to a collection, check the price on the broker. Sell anything and everything you can. My way to quick cash.</p><p>Doesn't involve tradeskilling, levelling.. *shrug*</p><p>I got my horse at level 14.</p>

[Lakaah]

I got my 32% horse right around level 35. It was the status version, ~2.5plat, and nearly left me broke. If you follow some of the advice in this thread and elsewhere, you can surely get a better horse, and sooner. But to me, collectables are for collecting, not selling .. harvesting is for crafting and getting rares to use, not sell ... and I enjoy <strike>playing the game</strike> questing too much to spend more time than necessary doing that harvesting. I'm level 45 now, xp's been disabled since level 20ish, and I have 11 plat to my name despite purchasing a guild emblem and buying several rares for the wife (the rubies elude me!), so I'm doing ok. Don't really see any need for having massive piles of plat.

[Voq]

<p>Eh, I sell *extra* collectables - once most of my characters no longer need them.  I collect a lot but will still be faced with sometimes needing to buy something to finish a collection and remain sane.</p><p>I also harvest (a lot) and use rares both to equip myself AND to make extra coin, since making and selling a rare-based item is generally more profitable than simply selling the rare (trade xp + profits = preference).  Some things I sell are profitable enough that I have to buy extra rares when they're favorably priced to keep up with demand.</p><p>Anyways, I'm a returning player (who wasn't that far along previously - 27 wiz was my highest and is now my banker, I deleted all other characters upon return) and MMO vet, so I kinda know how to generate coin, and enjoy doing so.  Roughly 3 weeks into my return and already racked up 10-15 plat or so on noob fare, with some of that being invested in making more coin (like buying salesman crates).  I haven't bought any mounts yet even though I could, since my two mains aren't even 20 yet (well, one is a 20th sage, but neither is 20th adventurer yet), one is a warden, and the conjuror just uses "of the wolf" blood or totems (that I only buy when they're low priced) for "transportation."  I'm holding out to see if I join a guild and can get better mounts with a combo of status and coin instead of the heftier pure coin!</p><p>I lot of the coin I generate comes from selling low level stuff since the economy is whacked and people pay a lot to twink or transmute low level items, and it seems like a lot of noob content has been revamped with better rewards (than I find out in higher level Antonica) and drop rates.  I find and sell ridiculous quantities of Adept I's, it seems, for example, before lvl 12 - then get to Antonica and the chests just suck - often with requisitions or nonmagic junk loot.</p><p>The key thing to remember in EQ2, IMO, is that almost everything that drops can be sold via broker - you just have to search to identify the few things that are actually trash/vendor loot, identify the items that end up never selling vs the items that sell easily, and prioritize for maximum profit.  (And of course setup your home with containers for optimal selling!)</p><p>Shinies and nice gear (and EQ2 Adept/Master spells/arts) are a part of the fun in MMORPGs and you can't always quest or conquest for the stuff.  Learning how to leverage player economy is part of the game.  If you choose not to participate and to only gain coin by looting and vendor selling only you're doing yourself a disservice and missing out on a lot of easy coin (and consequently nice gear, spells, and arts).  But, it doesn't bother me or the other people who like easy money that most people can't be bothered - more easy wealth for us!</p>

[Ebjelen]

<p>Of the dozens of alts I've played I actually bought one horseadn haven't bought another since. I just simply haven't had the need to move that fast since moving faster increase the number of objects that need to be loaded thus increasing lag.</p><p>Some guilds are very generous about these things ... another variable!</p><p>Paladins and Shadow Knights and buy cheap, 14 silver, horses at level 20, another class variabes.</p><p>Some of the scout sand druids get incredible speed buffs at higher levels ... yet another variable.</p><p>We could go on all day answering such an ambiguous question.</p>

[Eldcen]

<cite>Nick4591 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>For someone who does not recieve any money from other characters, how long would you suspect it to take for that person to be able to afford a mount? Lets say that it is that person's first character, and they are not overly active in the trade skill economy. Am I correct in my estimate of lvl 35-40?</p></blockquote>There are a lot of good tips in this thread.  But just one comment on tradeskilling.  Tradeskilling is not a good way to make money - at least in the lower levels.  Once you have a high level (like T6 or T7) tradeskiller, there are some viable ways to make money, but tradeskilling is costly to level.  It may not seem costly at the time, since you can easily harvest all you need to level it.  But if you were to sell all of those harvestables instead of tradeskilling with them, you would make a ton more cash. This is coming from someone with a level 70 tailor, and 5 other 60+ tradeskillers.  So yeah, I like to tradeskill, but at low levels, it's not a good way to make cash.  At high levels, it's an ok way to make cash, but farming and selling harvests (rare and otherwise), is still probably a better way to make money - even at high TS levels. So don't worry about not "being active in the tradeskill economy" - if you want to make more money at low levels, that's a good thing. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />