Mystic AAs

[Bobbette]

I really did search the forums before posting this question because I know it gets asked so many times.  But I didn't find a recent discussion that addressed my question post-EoF. I'm having a heckuva time choosing my AAs. I made my mystic to be a backup healer for raiding.  Since she's a backup healer, she does more grouping than raiding ... but I also want her to be spec'ed properly for raiding also.  She's 70 with about 75 AAs spread between the two trees (I think she has about 43 in KoS and the rest in EoF) and a few I haven't assigned yet (I think). Right now I have ... <u><b>KoS</b></u> Strength 44682 Stamina 4444 (for the debuff and faster cures) Wis 3 (was thinking to get ritual again but lately thinking I don't need it anymore) <u><b>EoF</b></u> Auspice 5 SoW 5 Spirit of the Mammoth 3 Umbral Attendant 3 Avatar 5 Oberon 3 Bolster 5 Ancestry 1 I'm not sure I'm so happy with the faster cures since it doesn't affect Ancient Balm and our group cure. I've considered doing the agility line to complement the EoF CA line ... but then wondered how useful that would really be in groups and raids (soloing I can see the use). The EoF Rez line seems completely useless to me.  I hear the EoF cure line is pretty much useless too.  At this rate, I'm going to have everything in the augmenting line at 5. And I still can't decide which other non-strength KoS is a good all around choice for grouping and raiding with a bit of solo'ing on the side.

[TheGReddy]

<p>I dont have my mystic strong enough for raiding yet, but i would say this would be the lines i would go down and am goin down.</p><p>Pet:1</p><p>STR: 44882</p><p>INT:4488</p><p>That adds up to 51 so i recommend taking a point from either Aura of Haste, Aura of Warding, or that pet debuff spell thingy. Kinda a tough choice since you are also a grouping mystic. Aura of Haste and Aura of Warding are very good for grouping while the Debuff Buff is mostly for raiding. Aura of Haste and Warding are also good for raiding when you are in say a melee dps group.</p><p>As for the EoF line, id say</p><p>BUFF LINE: Auspice 5, SoW 5, Spirit of the Mammoth 5, Umbral Attendant 3, Avatar 5, Oberon 5, Bolster 5 (this is from the top of my head fyi)</p><p>CURE LINE: 3 in each regular cure. Ancient Balm 5</p>

[Greggthegrmreapr]

<p>I'm a MT group mystic with the following AA setup.</p><p>KoS</p><p>STR: 4 4 7 8 1 </p><p>AGI: 4 4 8 6 1</p><p>EoF,</p><p>(Buff line) Foretelling 5,  SotM 5, Umbral Attendant 3, Avatar 5, Bolster 5, Ancestry 1</p><p>(Melee Line) Chilling Strike 5, Ursine Auger 5, Feverish Strike 5, Glacial Strike 5, CotA 5, Weapon Mastery 5</p><p>With Zerker tank and a dirge in the MT group, I can hit 1400 DPS easily on single mobs or 800-1200 on groups.  I also get about 3rd on the heal parse by hitting a ward at the right time and Runic Aegis/DogDog</p>

[Formangenavn]

<p>This post answeres a few of my question. I was was thinking of only using 21 points in Mystic CA line so I could pick most of the buff AAs. How much of a difference does Ursin do? I cant pick everything so I am wondering what to skip, or only place 3 points in. Are there any of the buffs that hardly gets used? Only lev 36 so far. Wont be raiding for long, or even at all regularly. </p><p>On Shaman tree I was thinking Str and Agi. Getting my dps up is important since I solo quest a lot.</p>

[Bobbette]

Denna@Venekor wrote: <blockquote><p>I'm a MT group mystic with the following AA setup.</p><p>KoS</p><p>STR: 4 4 7 8 1 </p><p>AGI: 4 4 8 6 1</p><p>EoF,</p><p>(Buff line) Foretelling 5,  SotM 5, Umbral Attendant 3, Avatar 5, Bolster 5, Ancestry 1</p><p>(Melee Line) Chilling Strike 5, Ursine Auger 5, Feverish Strike 5, Glacial Strike 5, CotA 5, Weapon Mastery 5</p><p>With Zerker tank and a dirge in the MT group, I can hit 1400 DPS easily on single mobs or 800-1200 on groups.  I also get about 3rd on the heal parse by hitting a ward at the right time and Runic Aegis/DogDog</p></blockquote>Denna, you melee during raids?  I hadn't been considering melee'ing during raids ... and frankly I'm not sure the pros and cons to doing ranged vs. melee with a shaman in a raid. I've debated the agi line with the CAs for grouping and solo'ing.  But kind of thought it was useless for raiding.  Or at least, not as useful as the dogdog debuffs and buffs the other lines bring. I'd like to hear more about how this works for you.

[Bobbette]

<cite>TheGReddy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I dont have my mystic strong enough for raiding yet, but i would say this would be the lines i would go down and am goin down.</p><p>Pet:1</p><p>STR: 44882</p><p>INT:4488</p><p>That adds up to 51 so i recommend taking a point from either Aura of Haste, Aura of Warding, or that pet debuff spell thingy. Kinda a tough choice since you are also a grouping mystic. Aura of Haste and Aura of Warding are very good for grouping while the Debuff Buff is mostly for raiding. Aura of Haste and Warding are also good for raiding when you are in say a melee dps group.</p><p>As for the EoF line, id say</p><p>BUFF LINE: Auspice 5, SoW 5, Spirit of the Mammoth 5, Umbral Attendant 3, Avatar 5, Oberon 5, Bolster 5 (this is from the top of my head fyi)</p><p>CURE LINE: 3 in each regular cure. Ancient Balm 5 </p></blockquote>    Well I intended to keep the strength line even though sometimes the dogdog ticks me off and I just wanna kick him to the curb and spec so I don't need him.  But in raiding situations that ward proc is nice to have.  In grouping, not so much, it gets me dead too often, but the haste is nice. The intelligence line might be more versatile overall ... the debuff helping even in grouping situations and the extra resistances helping in pickup groups or harder 70+ encounters (CMM, Unrest, etc). Still ... a mystic friend of mine has told me that the CA AAs really should be supported by having the agility KoS line -- to get the most out of them I mean.  To me, this seems the perfect grouping and soloing setup.  Still not so sure about raiding.  Interested to see Denna's reply to me about that. As an aside, I really wish SOE hadn't changed the respec fee scale to be so severe ... it sounds all wonderful until you have an up and coming character and are trying to get the AAs right for an evolving playstyle.  I'm having big issues with my younger characters and feeling I need to pick AA lines before I truly understand how the class plays.  30 days is a very long time for a young class.  1p is a huge amount for a young class too.**  In the old world I just would have tried a few different specs until I got the 'right' one for me. Edited to add: **I don't think 1p is a huge amount overall.  I don't mind spending 1-2p on my main.  I do mind spending 1-2p to respec a level 25 alt that I'll probably need to respec again and again as it grows.

[Greggthegrmreapr]

Velda@Antonia Bayle wrote: <blockquote>Denna@Venekor wrote: <blockquote><p>I'm a MT group mystic with the following AA setup.</p><p>KoS</p><p>STR: 4 4 7 8 1 </p><p>AGI: 4 4 8 6 1</p><p>EoF,</p><p>(Buff line) Foretelling 5,  SotM 5, Umbral Attendant 3, Avatar 5, Bolster 5, Ancestry 1</p><p>(Melee Line) Chilling Strike 5, Ursine Auger 5, Feverish Strike 5, Glacial Strike 5, CotA 5, Weapon Mastery 5</p><p>With Zerker tank and a dirge in the MT group, I can hit 1400 DPS easily on single mobs or 800-1200 on groups.  I also get about 3rd on the heal parse by hitting a ward at the right time and Runic Aegis/DogDog</p></blockquote>Denna, you melee during raids?  I hadn't been considering melee'ing during raids ... and frankly I'm not sure the pros and cons to doing ranged vs. melee with a shaman in a raid. I've debated the agi line with the CAs for grouping and solo'ing.  But kind of thought it was useless for raiding.  Or at least, not as useful as the dogdog debuffs and buffs the other lines bring. I'd like to hear more about how this works for you. </blockquote>Yes, I melee on every pull, and am one of the top on the parse for most solo fights.  My fist spec was just the 100% melee crits, and Crippling bash plus some of the INT line.  As per the request of our MT, i respecced to pure Melee (which I had wanted to do for PvP, but wanted to be more "raid friendly" )  Usually Runic Aegis and Dog proccing wards like mad are enough to keep the MT alive with the other healers about.  There are exceptions though.  Bad pulls I won't melee until I know for sure we are caught back up on heals.

[ModPlod]

<p>I still play my mystic occasionally on raids</p><p>Denna</p><p>Wonderd what gear you are using to get that sort of dps on raids?</p><p>Do u still do your debuffing as well as warding and still hit 1400 dps ? </p>

[Greggthegrmreapr]

<cite>ModPlod wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I still play my mystic occasionally on raids</p><p>Denna</p><p>Wonderd what gear you are using to get that sort of dps on raids?</p><p>Do u still do your debuffing as well as warding and still hit 1400 dps ? </p></blockquote><p> Depends on the mob and the raid make up.  If there are other mystics on the raid, I usually have them do it.  If I am the only one I do it.  If I am doing the debuffs, I don't always get that high, but still can.</p><p><a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/characters/character_profile.vm?characterId=446564122" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">My gear</a>.  The Stoic Pride items are only available on PvP servers though.</p>

[Jatofyr324]

ATM I am STR 4-4-8-6-2 AGI 4-4-4-8 WIS 4-1 Only at 75 AA but am going 5 in everything in augmentation line except none in SoW or our bear form proc and 3 on Umbral Attendant. One in Ancestry. 4 on the noxious cure, 3 on the other simple cures, 5 in ancient balm and ebbing spirits and 1 in immunities. Specced for raiding.

[Bobbette]

Lyxson@Oasis wrote: <blockquote>ATM I am STR 4-4-8-6-2 AGI 4-4-4-8 WIS 4-1 Only at 75 AA but am going 5 in everything in augmentation line except none in SoW or our bear form proc and 3 on Umbral Attendant. One in Ancestry. 4 on the noxious cure, 3 on the other simple cures, 5 in ancient balm and ebbing spirits and 1 in immunities. Specced for raiding. </blockquote>Are the cure AAs worth it?  I heard the ward amounts were pitiful, like 150 max.  That hardly seems worth the 5 points.  Today I think I came to a decision on the mystic tree side.  I had a few unassigned points last night so I tossed them into the first CA and then worked claymore quests in SoS with a group.  I loved that I could easily fit in damage between wards.  Since we were only a trio & then a 4some, it did help us to move along through the trash ... I didn't feel like dead weight between wards. So this morning I respec'ed her ... still have enough points in augmentin to have Ancestry and 5 down in bolster but took the points out of avatar for the moment.  I reallocated the 'extra' points into the combat art line and so far I have everything opened up but feverish strike.  I took her solo questing today and it was night and day compared to previously, imo. I spoke with a warden friend of mine last night and he was saying that the CA allow him to squeeze in his dps while his heals are recycling.  I could definitely see that working on the mystic as well. I still haven't decided the shaman tree yet.  I'm pretty much torn between Agi 44862 or Wisdom 68802 <-- for ritual heal boost and the max dog proc and alacrity.  The wisdom build seems a bit more flexible for solo (procs ftw), grouping (heal boost and alacrity is nice) and raiding (same).  But oooo, agility would allow for more damage and it doesn't rely on the dog at all ....

[Finora]

<p>Just to add my 2cp =)</p><p>Str 4-4-8-6-2</p><p>Agi 4-4-8-6-2</p><p>Respected out of wisdom for the agility when they gave the free KOS reset. I haven't regretted it in the least.</p><p>EOF I've done the augmenting line and the melee line (the only 'good' ability for me is the sanctuary like abilty in the cure line, and I hate to feel like I'm wasting aapoints). </p><p>The I've not finished with the melee EOF line but already the difference in my dps is very much noticable. HUGE when grouping and soloing, bit less so when we raid. I'm always one of 2 healers in the MT group, and usually only 3-4 healers on a raid so spend more time healing. But it really is nice to have the melee dps between ward/cure casts with my dog supporting with the ward procs. </p>

[Rayche]

I'm pretty much going the same way Denna is going. I enjoy the Melee aspect, and Dogdog is my faithful companion. I haven't gone towards the Melee parts of the EoF AA's yet, but I've completed the STR and AGI lines in KoS, and drilled down to Ancestry/Buffs in EoF. Working on Enhance Ursine Augur now.

[Jatofyr324]

I'm really not sure. They all are terrible besides the augmentation line and I have about 4 AA til I have to decide /shrug will have to see what top Mystics are picking.

[Greggthegrmreapr]

Lyxson@Oasis wrote: <blockquote>I'm really not sure. They all are terrible besides the augmentation line and I have about 4 AA til I have to decide /shrug will have to see what top Mystics are picking. </blockquote> I wouldn't say that.  With the AGI line's 100% melee crits, just a few points into the melee abilities in EoF tree make them hit for more than the master versions of the spells.  And they cast a heck of a lot faster, and can while moving!

[JamesRay]

<p>/agree</p><p>Having the CA version of spells is great because you can dump out multiple CAs in the same time it would take to cast out the ranged spells.</p><p>With a 2-handed spear you can push out 5 100% crit CAs in a few seconds and have plenty of time left over to recast wards, debuff, etc.  Just gotta watch that aggro <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Owlbe]

I'm a HUGE fan of the agi line and the spells to CA line attack aa's.  I had quit my mystic way back when LU22 came in when they made soloing for us near impossible and with the inclusion of the EoF ca abilities that all changes.  As long as your not one of those "I only want to heal" mystics and you want to contribute to your group in any way you can (ie dps) then it is a must to have.

[Bobbette]

For those who are doing the agility line ... do you think I need to go to the Tribal Rage at the bottom?  Or is 100% melee crits enough?  The healing crits don't work as well as I'd like with ward mechanics.  While I think Tribal Rage would be really useful for solo'ing and duo'ing ... I'm not sure for big groups or especially raids. If I stopped at the melee crits I could put up to 5 points into Ritual (wis line) for the heal boost.  Or put some more points into haste in the strength line. I just want to hear how useful people have found the healing crits and/or Tribal Rage.

[Bobbette]

After reading up on melee crits (for another char), I decided to go for it and spec'ed my mystic down the agility line. 4 more points to get for her and she'll be spec'ed to the bottom. The one thing I do like about the agility line is that it isn't dog dependent. I don't feel like I have all my eggs in one basket now.