Last Name.

[Armondpb]

<p>Little peeved. I /petition ed for a gm almost four hours ago so I thought i'd come here and give this a shot.</p><p>This is more of a help question i guess but, got my crafting up to 20 went to pick a last name that fits GREAT with my first name and yet.. my toon name is invalid. [Removed for Content]?</p><p>Heroine is the last name.</p>

[Ouchy Dathurts]

Can you get a surname from crafting? I've never tried it so I honestly dont know. My guess would be that its considered a title of sorts. Sony has always had a thing with not having a name that is a title. You cant make a character named "King ____". Granted, now they have titles you can get from city merchants (duke, count, etc) but they're a money sink so it flies. So, my guess would be they consider that a title. Your trying to make your character a "hero". Now, it could be that i'm way off. But I know SOE has a thing against titles in the proper name.

[Armondpb]

<p>Well.. Here's the thing;</p><p>I play on a pvp sever, and the names on there....well you can almost pick anything cause thats just how pvp is, all over in any MMORPG i've ever played.</p><p>You are able to have a last name at lvl 20 crafting (alot of people lock toons at low lvl's for AA and have first and last name)</p><p>But, Heroine should be useable seeing as how i've seen MANY name's kinda like that...I'm gonna be upset if i cant use that.. there should be a way for us to see if a last name is useable before we work so hard on a toon...kinda sucks.</p>

[Rokaab]

<p>Its also possibly that theres a swear word checker in there and something that checks for other dubious words like drug names within the name you've put forward.</p><p>I seem to remember something about swearword checkers in email sending programs and it not letting words through such as '[I cannot control my vocabulary]' which is a placename because it contained certain words - so it may be something similar.</p><p>Edit: see it did it in the profantity checker in here as well, the place is called S-c-u-n-thorpe, but it wont let it through.</p>

[Didi]

<cite>Armondpb wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>But, Heroine should be useable seeing as how i've seen MANY name's kinda like that...I'm gonna be upset if i cant use that.. there should be a way for us to see if a last name is useable before we work so hard on a toon...kinda sucks.</p></blockquote><p> If I had to guess, I would guess that name is being blocked because it contains the name of a drug (heroin).  There is likely an automatic filter in place to block out drug names and it's probably blocking Heroine for that reason.  It also might possibly not be acceptable because it could be considered a title (not sure about this).</p><p><a href="http://help.station.sony.com/cgi-bin/soe.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=12272" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Naming Policy</a> relevant sections:</p><p>8. Common words and phrases that would not be found in the place and time setting of the game (e.g. Switchblade, Phaser, Toaster, Sloegin, Anyone). This includes references to drug substances or drug related paraphernalia. (e.g. Ecstacy, Cannibis) </p><p>11. Names containing titles within them, such as, but not limited to: The, Lord, Lady, Master, King, Knight, Sir, Father (e.g. Sirtallon, Lordeagle, Mothermaggy, Darksister). </p><p>It's worth seeing what response you get to your petition, it's possible a GM might agree to change your name to Heroine for you.  If not though, I'm sure there are other good names you can think of that will be acceptable.  </p>

[Ebjelen]

<p>Other than being a homonym for an illegal drug, heroine is a title. You can't give yourself a title, you have to earn it.</p><p>Now a lot of people make it through the filters, but sooner or later they step on someone's toe and get their name petitioned. One thing I've noticed is that GMs respond to bad-name petitions very quickly.</p><p>On the front page of this site is an article on <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/news_archive.vm?id=1102&section=Community" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The Name Game</a>. I suggest you read it.</p>

[Armondpb]

<p>Thanks for all your advice.</p><p> On PvP severs.... You rare come by "Arura Tir'nag" (yada yada) On PvP you have to think about what named you're getting roxxed by.. You've been killed bye " Sushie" for an exaple other then Arura looks alot cooler in the eyes of a pvp player for the most part. I'm not saying ALLLLLLL pvp'er's do that..just alot more people then norm. It's funny to see what people can come up with really.</p><p>As for the drug thing:</p><p> results for: <i>heroine</i></p><p>-noun 1.a woman of distinguished courage or ability, admired for her brave deeds and noble qualities. 2.the principal female character in a story, play, film, etc. </p><p>I think i should have the name based off the first name. My first names not HookedON or Junkingshot.</p><p>if it's a title cool; the brat in me says..I dont care.</p><p>i never really get all uppy on most things and tend to stick up for this game a liitle more then i should seeing as how i lose uber points w/ people but this time, I dont think its right that if anything we are unable to seeee what last names we are able to get before we take a toon all the way to 20 just to find out the name you've wanted since noob island can't be used..</p><p>/lame</p>

[Bozidar]

You don't honestly think that crafting a toon to lvl 20 is hard work, do you?

[Armondpb]

<p>Honestly, No.</p><p>Locking your toon and questing for AA for hours and hours... Yes, Killing lots of named...Yes... Getting the rares for MasterCrafted everything... Yes.</p>

[Bozidar]

<cite>Armondpb wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Honestly, No.</p><p>Locking your toon and questing for AA for hours and hours... Yes, Killing lots of named...Yes... Getting the rares for MasterCrafted everything... Yes.</p></blockquote><p>Find some way around the ban. Throw in a ' or something, or mis-spell it on purpose.  Heeroine, Herroine, ect.. Her'oine.</p><p>not happy? k.  next time craft to 20 before getting to lvl 10 and doing all that work <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  You need the crafting levels to get your harvesting up anyway. </p>

[Armondpb]

*Sigh* your right. *Kicks rocks.*

[ke'la]

<cite>Armondpb wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thanks for all your advice.</p><p> On PvP severs.... You rare come by "Arura Tir'nag" (yada yada) On PvP you have to think about what named you're getting roxxed by.. You've been killed bye " Sushie" for an exaple other then Arura looks alot cooler in the eyes of a pvp player for the most part. I'm not saying ALLLLLLL pvp'er's do that..just alot more people then norm. It's funny to see what people can come up with really.</p><p>As for the drug thing:</p><p> results for: <i>heroine</i></p><p>-noun 1.a woman of distinguished courage or ability, admired for her brave deeds and noble qualities. 2.the principal female character in a story, play, film, etc. </p><p>I think i should have the name based off the first name. My first names not HookedON or Junkingshot.</p><p>if it's a title cool; the brat in me says..I dont care.</p><p>i never really get all uppy on most things and tend to stick up for this game a liitle more then i should seeing as how i lose uber points w/ people but this time, I dont think its right that if anything we are unable to seeee what last names we are able to get before we take a toon all the way to 20 just to find out the name you've wanted since noob island can't be used..</p><p>/lame</p></blockquote><p>There is nothing wrong, as far as it being a "drug related word", with the word Heroine however there are TWO things that the filter might check, first Heroin is part of the name and Most auto filters are VERY dumb and if a bad word is part of a string it bans the word. Second, Heroine IS A TITLE and you can't give yourself a Title. </p><p>As far as miss spelling it goes, intentanally trying to avoid the naming policy is a good way to, at the very least get your last name periminantly changed to Fluffikins.</p>

[Calthine]

Ouchy Dathurts wrote: <blockquote>Can you get a surname from crafting? I've never tried it so I honestly dont know. </blockquote>Yes, you can - level 20 in crafting or adventuring works. I suspect you're right.  You can't have Hero as a name, I know that.

[Didi]

<cite>Armondpb wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I think i should have the name based off the first name. My first names not HookedON or Junkingshot.</p><p>if it's a title cool; the brat in me says..I dont care.</p></blockquote><p>Sadly I don't think there's any game yet that has a filter smart enough to approve (or not) your last name based on what your first name is.  Clearly "Shootinup Heroine" would be a totally inappropriate name but the filter wouldn't be smart enough to understand why that's bad but "Francesca Heroine" might be OK.  At the end of the day it's basically a dumb spellchecker.  Like I said there MAY be a SMALL chance you could convince a GM to change your surname manually to Heroine once they see your first name isn't something like Shootinup, but since Heroine is also a title, it's a pretty long shot IMO.  Unfortunate, but you can blame all the idiots who have already chosen names like Shootinup Heroine and caused these filters to be put there in the first place ...</p><p>If you wanna post your first name, maybe folks can come up with some other suggestions if you wanted.  There's got to be some other options that sound good too, if the misspelling doesn't work.</p>

[mellowknees72]

My guess would be that "Heroine" is not allowed because "Hero of Maj'dul" is a title that one can get in game. One thing you *can* do is find out what "heroine" is in a few other languages. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> For example, in German and Dutch, "heroine" is Heldin, which would probably get through.

[Armondpb]

<p>Again, thanks for the great advise!</p><p>Only thing is; I hate miss spelling names wrong heeh like Hero'ine or Herrine ... though if i GM ever desides to get a hold of me I would like to explan some things that i've explaned here. That is to say if a GM ever desideds to get a round to me. It's going on the 3ed day now... <i>totally ridiculous</i> and i am considering filing a customer complaint with HQ over the lack of in game customer services levl, they (for being SONY online [sony it self being one of the top co. in the world]) should really raise the bar, I'm highly disapointed and frankly i'm tired of defending them to others. Never have I had to wait this long and I have played <b>EVERY</b> mmorpg out there on the market, I was in alpha for DDO and in beta not only for eq2 but countless others and I repeat, NEVER have i had to wait this long for in game support...It's relaly very sad.</p><p>Anyway, The toons name is Fictional and she's in a guild called heros. (Fictonal Heroine to-me- just sounds awesome, and thats why i wanted it so badly) To me, content makes alot of the game but I like my games to be -very- pleasing to the eye imo.</p>

[Didi]

<cite>Armondpb wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>though if i GM ever desides to get a hold of me I would like to explan some things that i've explaned here. That is to say if a GM ever desideds to get a round to me. It's going on the 3ed day now... <i>totally ridiculous</i> and i am considering filing a customer complaint with HQ over the lack of in game customer services levl, they (for being SONY online [sony it self being one of the top co. in the world]) should really raise the bar, I'm highly disapointed and frankly i'm tired of defending them to others. Never have I had to wait this long and I have played <b>EVERY</b> mmorpg out there on the market, I was in alpha for DDO and in beta not only for eq2 but countless others and I repeat, NEVER have i had to wait this long for in game support...It's relaly very sad.</p></blockquote><p>That does seem like you should have had an answer by now.  Did you get an automatic acknowledgement email when you submitted the petition?  You should be sent an email acknowledgement within 5 minutes or so of logging the petition - if you didn't get one, double check the petition was actually entered correctly.  To check your petition (or log a new one) <a href="http://soe-ing.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/soe_ing.cfg/php/enduser/std_alp.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">go to this web page</a>.  Go to the "service history" tab and log in there to check your petition history, your current petition should be listed as well as any updates to it (which you should also have received as emails).  If it's not there, you can use the "in game support" tab to create your petition again.  </p><p>Check that your email address is correct in your account registration details, if you're using an old address that might be causing issues, perhaps they've tried to get back to you but it was going to the wrong address.  Also check that your email provider isn't using a spam blocker that might have filtered out the petition responses so you don't see them.  I've had to petition a few times and typically you should get the automated reply "yes you just submitted a petition" within 5-10 minutes at most, and then a GM will attempt to contact you in game.  This has never taken more than 2-3 hours for me, sometimes much less.  If you're offline when they try to contact you, they'll update the petition saying they tried to contact you but you weren't around, and you can update the petition online with your reply.  If the email has gone astray they might have updated the petition but you just aren't aware of it. </p><p>Edit: PS - how about Fictional Protagonist instead?</p>

[Armondpb]

<p>I look all the time at the page..and it says the same thing...</p><p>(stat)                                                          (When I first sent in the petition)</p><p>Unresolved03/29/2007 09:33 PM</p>

[Didi]

<p>Hmm, well that is very surprising.  I guess you could try updating the petition to let them know you're still waiting to be contacted, I'm surprised you haven't heard anything yet, that definitely seems like a long time.</p><p>In the mean time ....</p><ul><li>Fictional Protagonist</li><li>Fictional Character</li><li>Fictional Storyline</li><li>Fictional Violence</li><li>Fictional Femme'Fatale</li><li>Fictional Destiny .... ?</li></ul>

[Armondpb]

I got my name! ^_^

[DrkVsr]

<span style="font-size: small; color: #993300; font-family: comic sans ms,sand">Cool, what name did you go with?</span>

[Armondpb]

Heroine

[Didi]

Grats!!  See, they're not really the Evil Empire, it was probably just the automatic bad word filter catching on the drug reference.  Grats!  <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[metacell]

ke'la wrote: <blockquote><p>As far as miss spelling it goes, intentanally trying to avoid the naming policy is a good way to, at the very least get your last name periminantly changed to Fluffikins.</p></blockquote>Cool, I've always wanted a fae named Fluffikins!  <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />