On PVP is it hard to level?

[Nulooq]

Hello everyone,     I have been thinking of rerolling over on a pvp server. The question I have is.... Can you level normal like a pve server or is it just to hard to do. Example: pve server 2hrs to level your guy and a pvp server 8hrs from all the ganking.

[Bozidar]

<p>it's not hard at all, most people shut off xp to slow it down because all the best pvp is in the early levels where the populations are high <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>get to 20th in saftey, then go to splitpaw.. you can avoid most gankage until you're at the level you want to pvp at.. then shut off xp and roll the enemy over and over and over <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p>

[Captain Apple Darkberry]

<cite>Nulooq wrote:</cite><blockquote>Hello everyone,     I have been thinking of rerolling over on a pvp server. The question I have is.... Can you level normal like a pve server or is it just to hard to do. Example: pve server 2hrs to level your guy and a pvp server 8hrs from all the ganking. </blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff3300">It is easy.  Sometimes it can be frustrating getting ganked when you are trying to xp, but PvP is the reason to roll on a PvP server.  =P</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff3300">The only levels that are really that much harder are from 62 to 70...</span> </p>

[Killque]

I level faster in PvP than I did in PvE.  PvP experience is simply amazing, however its been almost a year since any of my toons have had xp enabled... so that may have changed...

[Splintered]

on my 35 bruiser, I was locked from lvl 10 to lvl 33!, it was then I turned back on xp and leveled to 35 and 1%. If you level too quick you will miss so much that you need to get done, i.e. aa, max fraction ect..

[Greenion]

<p><span style="color: #339900">leveling up wont be the same experience at all.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">but that does not make it impossible.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">dont let the inevitable pvp rattle you...</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">ask yourself...how upset is it going to make you when you get killed by another player?</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">how much of a chance do you think you will have in your first ten pvp encounters, assuming of course you have some decent gear and spell ups?</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">the progression of adventure xp via pve is pretty quick...scaling instances further facilitates it.</span></p>

[Bawang]

The main thing is to avoid the mind set that you can just go to CL or Ant at lvl 10 and level up there.  That will just bring on endless ganking.  On the Freep side, I find it's easy to level in Serpent Sewer and then Edgewater drains.  I've never seen a Q in Edgewater Drains and I've there with a lot of toons.  One reason I prefer it to Splitpaw is that there are lots of easy quests you can do in both Serpent Sewer and Edgewater drains that give you lots of AA.  Splitpaw has completely safe xp but nothing else.

[Armondpb]

<p>Well, what I do is this: When I hit lvl 10 I (unlike most poeple) lvl untill i'm at least 12, just cuz I like having rare master crafted armor, and weps and I dont like to be lvl ten long. So lock at whatever lvl you like...pvp is mainly about having fun, and if you lvl to fast you miss out on ALOT of fun. Just remeber...you will die...you will die...you will die...everyone does. Whats the diffrence if its a mob or a player? A mob is brainless...You know whats going to do...how it fights and its weakness is always pretty easy to learn, but a player...now thats really fun... </p><p>but some people come over and get so upset over player death....I dont really understand why.... it does say; Player vs. Player.</p><p>Give it a shot...Once you play pvp...you'll never return to your other sever heeh...trust me.</p>

[Sinistria]

you will probably take longer to level but at least its more fun. you are almost never save but that is it all about. the adrenalin pumping through your veins when beeing attacked is the best thing you can epxerience in a computergame. so give it a try, grow a thick skin and be patient. it will pay off <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[munos]

the best advice dont worry about leveling as much as having fun and AA. I have to say AA's can make a world of difference in pvp. Dont miss those quests or it will be painful in your later years. You will get outclassed by a green con with twink armor and lots of AA's. I have 45aa for my 42 swash and he can rock most yellows in seconds.

[WasFycksir]

Make sure you roll your toon on Nagafen though.  It's the busiest server for PVP from what I read.  The rest are dying/dead.

[SweetheartRose]

<cite>Greenion wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span style="color: #339900">leveling up wont be the same experience at all.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">but that does not make it impossible.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">dont let the inevitable pvp rattle you...</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">ask yourself...how upset is it going to make you when you get killed by another player?</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">how much of a chance do you think you will have in your first ten pvp encounters, assuming of course you have some decent gear and spell ups?</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">the progression of adventure xp via pve is pretty quick...scaling instances further facilitates it.</span></p></blockquote><p>Green's view may be a bit biased since he exiles his toons at a low level.  Now there's nothing wrong with that but it means any level of any faction can attack you and usually do .. it's rare to have a level 70 stroll by and not 1 shot you for faction (whether they need it or not) </p><p>doing that will severely slow your leveling.</p><p>Playing as a qeynosian or freeportian sure you'll get ganked now and then but if you don't let that frustrate you it really doesn't slow down your leveling much.  In a way it can help your leveling since it's safer to roll in a group and groups get better exp anyway, you may level faster simply because on a PvE server you may have soloed more where here you get groups for the safety factor.</p>

[CresentBlade]

Make your character on Nagafen since other PvP servers are dieing/dead

[Kurindor_Mythecnea]

Sweetheart@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote><cite>Greenion wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span style="color: #339900">leveling up wont be the same experience at all.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">but that does not make it impossible.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">dont let the inevitable pvp rattle you...</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">ask yourself...how upset is it going to make you when you get killed by another player?</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">how much of a chance do you think you will have in your first ten pvp encounters, assuming of course you have some decent gear and spell ups?</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">the progression of adventure xp via pve is pretty quick...scaling instances further facilitates it.</span></p></blockquote><p>Green's view may be a bit biased since he exiles his toons at a low level.  Now there's nothing wrong with that but it means any level of any faction can attack you and usually do .. it's rare to have a level 70 stroll by and not 1 shot you for faction (whether they need it or not) </p><p>doing that will severely slow your leveling.</p><p>Playing as a qeynosian or freeportian sure you'll get ganked now and then but if you don't let that frustrate you it really doesn't slow down your leveling much.  In a way it can help your leveling since it's safer to roll in a group and groups get better exp anyway, you may level faster simply because on a PvE server you may have soloed more where here you get groups for the safety factor.</p></blockquote>(Greenion was) Also impartial to the rigors of a "regular" population level -- however, I suggest you identify what zones receive the least traffic and choose to XP if those if that is indeed your game plan. If you need assistance with such isolating I MAaaAAY be able to help (and, I suppose, many others would as well :mrgreen<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.

[Rattfa]

Why is everyone giving this dude tips on avoiding pvp? If he wants to roll on a pvp server, then why encourage him to avoid it? PvP man, PvP! OP, levelling on pvp is a very different experience. My advice is to find a guild, and group where possible. Group vs group is the most balanced and exciting pvp. Roll solo, and you're open for gankage, then you'll get frustrated quickly. Dont level lock, that just promotes ganking lower cons with crap gear. If you level lock then do it for the purposes of finding gear, or gaining AAs. Those who lock purely to pvp are nothing more than scrubs looking for easy numbers. Hiding away in instances just means you get closer in level to those who PvP A LOT, but with little pvp experience..you'll find yourself out matched very quickly. Group where possible. PvP as much as you can. PvP combat is very different than PvE combat.

[Eluzay]

<cite>Nulooq wrote:</cite><blockquote>Hello everyone,     I have been thinking of rerolling over on a pvp server. The question I have is.... Can you level normal like a pve server or is it just to hard to do. Example: pve server 2hrs to level your guy and a pvp server 8hrs from all the ganking. </blockquote> harder than pve servers for sure, but hiding in private instances ftw makes it not hard.

[Greenion]

Sweetheart@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote><cite>Greenion wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span style="color: #339900">leveling up wont be the same experience at all.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">but that does not make it impossible.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">dont let the inevitable pvp rattle you...</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">ask yourself...how upset is it going to make you when you get killed by another player?</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">how much of a chance do you think you will have in your first ten pvp encounters, assuming of course you have some decent gear and spell ups?</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">the progression of adventure xp via pve is pretty quick...scaling instances further facilitates it.</span></p></blockquote><p>Green's view may be a bit biased since he exiles his toons at a low level.  Now there's nothing wrong with that but it means any level of any faction can attack you and usually do .. it's rare to have a level 70 stroll by and not 1 shot you for faction (whether they need it or not) </p><p>doing that will severely slow your leveling.</p><p>Playing as a qeynosian or freeportian sure you'll get ganked now and then but if you don't let that frustrate you it really doesn't slow down your leveling much.  In a way it can help your leveling since it's safer to roll in a group and groups get better exp anyway, you may level faster simply because on a PvE server you may have soloed more where here you get groups for the safety factor.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #339900">actually all i am trying to point out is this.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">on a pve server you can easily meander about antonica or commonlands doing whatever quests tickle you fancy : this will be different undertaking on a pvp server regardless of what faction you play.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">i would definately not exile at a low level if you are new to pvp...and i mean new to playing pvp in any game not necessarily this one, a veteran of other pvp environments will not be griefed necessarily by the harshness of it.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">why i ask the two questions above is not to be condescending to you being new...its something you should consider...there will be characters with far more resources than you from the start...this will make a difference.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">you shouldnt let losing to them bother you in the least...you will likely encounter opposing players of your level range that seem totally impossible to kill...they may or may not kill you repeatedly...</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">to counter such things, if you are attacked by an obviously overpowering character or group of them...dont go back to seek revenge...theyll just kill you again, keep yourself calm and collected...revive somewhere far enough away they wont track you down.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">also as has been said by others, looking for quiet spots that are lightly traversed is a good ploy.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">instances can also be convenient.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">dont forget harvesting and tradeskilling either.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">most of all...dont quit...you first character while you have the least resources on server will likely take the hardest knocks imo...stick with it, build your pool of onserver resources...be patient and pvp prowess will come to you.</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">for those new to pvp i definately suggest staying in either city faction, and joining an established guild. (this is exactly what i had my wife do...eqii is her first mmorpg, she never even played on a pve server, last night her and a guildee took out a level 50 something together (they are both in their mid thirties) and she came bouncing back to my office to tell me about it roflz.)</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">its doable, but will be a gameplay experience divergant from that of a pve gameplay experience in the same environ.</span> </p>

[Zacarus]

>> the adrenalin pumping through your veins when beeing attacked is the best thing you can epxerience in a computergame Totally agree. When I started I quested in fear... and it was great.  Now I've learned with decent gear and some skill I can fight back and *maybe* survive, and MAYBE even win.  And its really great. If you die questing, don't let it stop you.  Get your gank on, and go back and complete your quest, bfd, its just a computer game.  You'll get them in the next tier.

[Pelda]

<p>If you do the things you did on a PvE server then your going to have a hard time.  You can't go into popular areas and just exp grind.  Don't be in the mindset that your going to exp without getting attacked and interrupted.  Be prepared to move around alot.  If you stay in one spot your going to get ganked.</p><p>The added bonus of PvP while trying to level is the fun part IMO.  Instances and out of the way places are your best bet.  Don't forget though that you get good exp for PvP as well.  One of my alt toons has leveled just on PvP once he hit level 10.  Take your time and don't be in a rush at first.  If you find your getting PK'd alot in one spot move to some other place and try it again later if you want.  If you don't let the deaths get to you, just shrug it off and move on, then its alot of fun.</p>