solid differences between illusionist and coercer

[Kyro Cilliani]

Does anyone have some solid ideas of what the differences between the two are? I've always played a tank, and my only idea between the two is that Ill does haste, Coercer does dps. What I want to do as an enchanter is to do that spec that lets you keep casting over and over really fast, and essentially do good damage while still being good utility. Do the unique AAs for illusionist or coercer fit this better? I'm really lost on the differences and the threads for them disappeared <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Please help

[Lord Hackenslash]

Kyro Cilliani wrote: <blockquote>Does anyone have some solid ideas of what the differences between the two are? I've always played a tank, and my only idea between the two is that Ill does haste, Coercer does dps. What I want to do as an enchanter is to do that spec that lets you keep casting over and over really fast, and essentially do good damage while still being good utility. Do the unique AAs for illusionist or coercer fit this better? I'm really lost on the differences and the threads for them disappeared <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Please help </blockquote>i am hardly an old pro but from what i understand the illusionist is better suited to speed casting with the buff synergy that adds a proc to our spellcasting that goes off alot. from what you said you are looking to do this is the main difference. there are more of course but i hope this answers your question.

[Sekhau]

Kyro Cilliani wrote: <blockquote>Does anyone have some solid ideas of what the differences between the two are? I've always played a tank, and my only idea between the two is that Ill does haste, Coercer does dps. What I want to do as an enchanter is to do that spec that lets you keep casting over and over really fast, and essentially do good damage while still being good utility. Do the unique AAs for illusionist or coercer fit this better? I'm really lost on the differences and the threads for them disappeared <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Please help </blockquote><p>Solid differences would be, for example ...</p><p>Illusionists - pet ____ Coercers - Charm</p><p>Illusionists - Caster / Melee buffs (dps) ____ Coercers - Healer buffs / Aggro techniques (keep mobs on tank / off others)</p><p>Specific to your question in the second part ...</p><p> Illusionists have a proc that casts off of any hostile spell cast. Initially, it's 33% chance. With EoF talents, it's 48%.</p><p>Frankly, I had no idea what I was missing until I went Perpetuality (Enchanter tree) and Enhanced: Intensity (33% to 48%, from Illusionist tree). </p><p>Perpetuality is the AA that nets you up to 5 times (stacking with eachother) faster casting speed, but it fades fast.  So essentially, you want to cast any and all things you can, as soon as they refresh.   As a sidebar, you would highly benefit from Enchance: Phantasmal Shock from the Illusionist tree.   It's your main nuke, and the reuse time is VERY nice when it's shortened. </p><p>Edit: Some thoughts of non-synergy in the Illusionist tree.</p><p>1. Enhance: Sadness.    This AA gives your Sadness line a burst of damage when it wears off.   Being a Perpetuality Illusionist, I oftentimes will re-cast my DoTs even before they've expired ... simply because I want to keep casting, and it's NON-STOP.</p><p>2. Don't have a Conjuror as an alt, or former main.   Try not to log into your Conjuror, as the shock, going from Perpetuality Illusionist to THAT, will likely cause you to delete your Conjuror forthwith.</p>

[Kyro Cilliani]

I've only played a Berserker, Guardian and Monk with any seriousness, so I'm welcoming a change of pace as much as I love tanks. It looks like Illusionist is what I wanted. It looks like I'm missing out on some of the fun with charm and Impetus is probably better than Rapidity, but Illusionist looks fun nonetheless. Thanks for the help, although I will more than welcome any other comments <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Phineus]

 I know what you mean about playing another caster after illus. If you have a templar cast their faster casting buff on you and your full perpetual, it looks like your casting combat arts.

[BrotherRathgar]

Illusionist is better DPS than Coercer, to name just 1 reason, the Coercer is going to want to take the + to Heal Crits in the Enchanter tree (since they are MT group for raids for agro gain on the MT, which is going to prohibit them from taking either the Chronomancer thing at 22-2 AGI, or Volitile Magic at 22-2 in INT.