Spurious Bravado's proc Bravado seems to not work in MT group

[Oxie]

<p>I've been finding myself in the MT group recently over the past week. We usually have a guardian as the MT, but sometimes, a paladin gets the nod when the guardian is not on the raid. Last night's raid into HoS had us with a paladin as the MT, a templar, a defiler, a warden, a dirge, and a swashbuckler. I noticed this problem of not seeing the Bravado icon in my Spell Effect window, and the other guild's swashy also noticed an issue when he was in the MT group recently, too. They swapped us around to see if it was just my swashy that was bugged, but as soon as I got put in with the zerker, bruiser, inq, coercer, brigand group, my Bravado was doing just fine as usual. The other swashy then noticed that Bravado was not working for him anymore (or the icon was not showing up) once the switch was made.</p><p>The dirge was late getting to the raid, so we had a ranger in the MT group (with Amends on him) and I hate my hate transfer on the paladin. It seemed like the Bravado was procing just fine then, but once the dirge joined the group, that is when I stopped having the icon show in the window. Yes, I did widen my spell window to watch for the spell popping up so I could cast Inspiration with it being up.</p><p>Someone in swashy channel suggested that it was because there were too many maintained spells showing up in the Spell Effects window, implying that the spell was procing, but we just couldn't see the icon popping up on the screen.</p><p>The other swashy and the dirge tried to figure out if there was a dirge spell that might be causing the issue. He said that he clicked off one dirge spell at a time to do a trial and error, but nothing fixed the missing Bravado proc/icon.</p><p>Anyone else having this happen?</p>

[Krontak]

Now that you mention it, lately I was looking at my spells and had thought I noticed the same thing.  I put it off to maybe it was just bad luck and it wasn't proc'ing much.  I then forgot about it.  I'm gonna start looking more closely now.  Question is this, is your haste increasing when it procs?  Or is the icon just not showing up.  I sure hope they haven't fudged up which variables they are using to determine which buffs you currently have on you.  Wouldn't be the first time though.  Ruthless Cunning didn't stack with the Imbued Rings with the DPS buff for the LOONNNNGEST time.  A few threads were started up and I did /bug it quite a bit.  Eventually, it seems to have been fixed.  I'd say keep track of this, bug it, bring it up in maybe the Spells forum as I think devs may look there more often once you think it is truely a bug and then it'll get some attention and fixed.

[Zygwen]

The number of buffs displayed seems to be limited to 30 or so again. It isn't just our buffs that are affected. If you want to see if it is procing, you can check logs or open your persona window during the fight and watch your Haste value. If it goes up by an amount equivalent to Spurious Bravado and after drops by the same amount when the proc fades then its working.

[Awlis]

I 'think' its the buffs window thing. Was me last night suggesting it. I kept an eye on the haste on my profit ui screen and saw it jumping up there as regular as often.. but will keep eye on it. i am in MT group tonight

[Cocytus]

<p>The biggest thing to look for that catches your eye when it procs - you glow red. Kinda like when you use steelweaver, except the glow is red.</p><p>If you see that, you're fine. I wasn't having this problem a week ago, as I generally pay more attention to the red glow than my buff window.</p>

[Oxie]

<cite>Cocytus wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The biggest thing to look for that catches your eye when it procs - you glow red. Kinda like when you use steelweaver, except the glow is red.</p><p>If you see that, you're fine. I wasn't having this problem a week ago, as I generally pay more attention to the red glow than my buff window.</p></blockquote> Good suggestion, but I tend to raid on Extreme Performance, due to lag and need for a video card upgrade. =(

[Dragonfly28]

seems to work fine for me, if you want to make sure check your log or parse. As when it procs it will write some output like: A touch of haste enters your body.

[brhead]

as said before the buff window only holds so many the runs out of room.  there's be a few times i had to assure the MT he has my hate gain because he cant find the icon.  profit will tell you your haste or play with your persona tab open