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laawintown
03-17-2007, 10:28 AM
<p>hey guys i  raid 2 to 3 times a week and i solo the rest and a few group  when not raiding  pure pvping.</p><p>   im looking for the best aa spec for the best dps i can buy both trees and yes any ideas for pvp to.</p><p>    i dont have fabled dual welds yet but should soon if they would drop for me been waiting on twin clam to drop not yet though.  Other then that weapon not sure wear ill get a second fabled dual weld.  </p><p>  i keep hearing monks in raid doing great dps parces with my dual welds i avarage 500 with my 2 hand weapon i  avarage 550 my max hit seems to be around 1250 im lvl 70 at the moment and in the int line 4,4,4,8,1  and im in the wisdom line4,4,8  if i rember right.</p><p>    what can i do seems i put up terable numbers</p>

Builttolast
03-17-2007, 10:49 PM
I have switched to the accepted DPS lines which are 4/4/8 WIS/STA/INT.  It truly does offer the best DPS of any other combination but is only one part of the equation.  While fabled weapons are nice 2x mastercrafted with imbuements will do fine until you get some.  The next thing is adornments.  Believe me the procs on these also add up and the "x.x times per minute" is only a guide.  I've seen some proc 5 times in a row and that is pure madness.  A monk with those AAs and dual wield weapons with procs can have up to 6 DPS procs that can activate on hit. I too when I started raiding was only doing 400-600DPS zonewide and after adjusting my playstyle and getting fabled weapons (albeit the "entry level" fabled,  one is T6,  Fists of Bashing adorned with T7 viral binding adornment,  and draconic fighting baton adorned with T6 molten binding) my DPS is consistently 800-1100 DPS zonewide.  I should note that my STR is also over the cap on every raid,  624 self buffed before I'm even grouped which makes a huge difference to your CAs and auto attack damage.  Once raided my STR is 1200+ and procs take it higher (even though the cap is 1080) it ensures even if my STR is debuffed I'm still doing maximum damage,  or can swap out gear for resists and keep my DPS.

Junaru
03-19-2007, 12:31 PM
<cite>Builttolast wrote:</cite><blockquote>I have switched to the accepted DPS lines which are 4/4/8 WIS/STA/INT.  It truly does offer the best DPS of any other combination but is only one part of the equation.  While fabled weapons are nice 2x mastercrafted with imbuements will do fine until you get some.  The next thing is adornments.  Believe me the procs on these also add up and the "x.x times per minute" is only a guide.  I've seen some proc 5 times in a row and that is pure madness.  A monk with those AAs and dual wield weapons with procs can have up to 6 DPS procs that can activate on hit. I too when I started raiding was only doing 400-600DPS zonewide and after adjusting my playstyle and getting fabled weapons (albeit the "entry level" fabled,  one is T6,  Fists of Bashing adorned with T7 viral binding adornment,  and draconic fighting baton adorned with T6 molten binding) my DPS is consistently 800-1100 DPS zonewide.  I should note that my STR is also over the cap on every raid,  624 self buffed before I'm even grouped which makes a huge difference to your CAs and auto attack damage.  Once raided my STR is 1200+ and procs take it higher (even though the cap is 1080) it ensures even if my STR is debuffed I'm still doing maximum damage,  or can swap out gear for resists and keep my DPS. </blockquote>I disagree. My damage is a lot lower when mastercrafted weapons and 4/4/8 WIS/STA/INT. For flat out DPS 4/4/8 STR/STA/INT is the way to go. I'll see if I can find the parse compairs I did back then. Not 100% sure of the numbers but I know for a fact that STR/STA/INT out DPSed every combination of AA's I tried.

Gungo
03-19-2007, 01:47 PM
It was prior the issue is now mastercrafted weapons can be imbued AND adorned w a dps proc. I havent seen a parse comparing these imbued/adorned mastercrafted wpns vs barefisted. And it may  very well be mastercrafted is better, now.

Yojimbo99
03-19-2007, 02:01 PM
<p>I would really like to see some new parsed info on bare fisted str line for monks as well.. over the last week i dusted off the gi sorta speak and been playing my monk again. since i hadnt played him in months i went with the str/int/sta being under the impression that unless u can break 60 dr dw or anythign short of the staff of the flapping wing one would be better off bare handed.</p><p>if anyone puts up some results on how bare handed is fairing now that would rock. if the results are close i might stick with the bare handed anyway and hold out for some fableds(unlikely but im allowed to dream), but if we are looking at 100+ dps difference then it time to grab a weapon or two. </p>

zbtdnp
03-21-2007, 07:59 AM
<cite>Yojimbo99 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I would really like to see some new parsed info on bare fisted str line for monks as well.. over the last week i dusted off the gi sorta speak and been playing my monk again. since i hadnt played him in months i went with the str/int/sta being under the impression that unless u can break 60 dr dw or anythign short of the staff of the flapping wing one would be better off bare handed.</p><p>if anyone puts up some results on how bare handed is fairing now that would rock. if the results are close i might stick with the bare handed anyway and hold out for some fableds(unlikely but im allowed to dream), but if we are looking at 100+ dps difference then it time to grab a weapon or two. </p><p>Umm did you guys not read his post...  yes.. he wants dps but he also pvp's alot... so your specs are all horrible for pvping hehe... best two specs in my opinion for pvp and dps would be to go 4/4/6/8/1 int and you can choose the pretty much the same for stam or wis... lately alot of monks going wis for the craneflock that gives you crazy burst dps for 16seconds.. every 5 mins.. works well against lil exiles and fps...</p></blockquote>

Myedved
03-21-2007, 09:10 AM
Gungo@Crushbone wrote: <blockquote>It was prior the issue is now mastercrafted weapons can be imbued AND adorned w a dps proc. I havent seen a parse comparing these imbued/adorned mastercrafted wpns vs barefisted. And it may  very well be mastercrafted is better, now. </blockquote> Just driving by and read this. You can apply a DPS adornment to an already imbued dual wield weapon and both work? /boggle

Builttolast
03-21-2007, 10:15 AM
<cite>Myedved wrote:</cite><blockquote>Gungo@Crushbone wrote: <blockquote>It was prior the issue is now mastercrafted weapons can be imbued AND adorned w a dps proc. I havent seen a parse comparing these imbued/adorned mastercrafted wpns vs barefisted. And it may  very well be mastercrafted is better, now. </blockquote> Just driving by and read this. You can apply a DPS adornment to an already imbued dual wield weapon and both work? /boggle</blockquote>You sure can.   Before getting fabled DW I used mastercrafted imbued/adorned with Legendary with a proc + Adornment (2 different adornments so they stack).  The Gleaming goes of as does the adornment,  adding more dps to each weapon for a few measly gold.

Yojimbo99
03-21-2007, 06:13 PM
<cite>zbtdnp wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Yojimbo99 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I would really like to see some new parsed info on bare fisted str line for monks as well.. over the last week i dusted off the gi sorta speak and been playing my monk again. since i hadnt played him in months i went with the str/int/sta being under the impression that unless u can break 60 dr dw or anythign short of the staff of the flapping wing one would be better off bare handed.</p><p>if anyone puts up some results on how bare handed is fairing now that would rock. if the results are close i might stick with the bare handed anyway and hold out for some fableds(unlikely but im allowed to dream), but if we are looking at 100+ dps difference then it time to grab a weapon or two. </p><p><span style="color: #0066cc">Umm did you guys not read his post...  yes.. he wants dps but he also pvp's alot... so your specs are all horrible for pvping hehe... best two specs in my opinion for pvp and dps would be to go 4/4/6/8/1 int and you can choose the pretty much the same for stam or wis... lately alot of monks going wis for the craneflock that gives you crazy burst dps for 16seconds.. every 5 mins.. works well against lil exiles and fps...</span></p></blockquote> </blockquote><p>yes i did read his post thank for asking however and and i case you missed the part; OP stated, "im looking for the best aa spec for the best dps i can buy both trees and yes any ideas for pvp to."</p><p>and hence my question about the strength line and it being a viable option if one does not have 2 high damage duel weild weapons. of which i still have no clear picture of yet anyway. </p><p>pvp is not my forte but his question implied he wanted to know what the best dps line(and for that matter i was asking as well) was  given that he has access to both trees, has aquired only one fabled dw at the time and that pvp was secondary to that.</p>