ARG!!! Let it happen!!

[FallenFeather]

PVP to PVE transfer, let it happen. I allready got a guardian that I've spent quite a alot of time with on Darathar server, but I'm not ever a gonna play him on THAT server again. So why not let me transfer him ?? I have tried making a new one, and got him on lvl 47, I'm spending alot of hours on this char that I realy don't feel that I should have to. I remember, that in that young time of pvp, a GM told one of my fellow guildies that a transfer could be done, but that his pvp equipment wouldn't be alowed to transfer! So whats this now ? How come non of your pvp servers are on the transfer list? Why SOE, whyiiiii<span style="font-size: xx-small">iii.. !? </span>

[UlteriorModem]

<p>Not going to happen.</p>

[Spyderbite]

<cite>FallenFeather wrote:</cite><blockquote>How come non of your pvp servers are on the transfer list? Why SOE, whyiiiii<span style="font-size: xx-small">iii.. !? </span></blockquote> I think its sort of cute how people phrase their posts as if they're talking to one of the Developers over the phone. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> What I don't understand is why anyone would want to transfer off a PvP server. I can completely understand wanting to transfer <b>to </b>a PvP server as it adds an element of risk to the game. And, they don't permit such transfers for obvious reasons. But, why would one, especially somebody who's spent 47 levels on a PvP server, want to transfer to a PvE server?? Guild drama? Not picking on the OP.. seriously curious. Inquiry minds want to know! <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[DngrMou]

Spyderbite@Venekor wrote: <blockquote><cite>FallenFeather wrote:</cite><blockquote>How come non of your pvp servers are on the transfer list? Why SOE, whyiiiii<span style="font-size: xx-small">iii.. !? </span></blockquote>I can completely understand wanting to transfer <b>to </b>a PvP server as it adds an element of risk to the game. </blockquote>Transferring would add an element of risk to the game, and might even make it enjoyable.  As opposed to starting a new character on a PvP server, and being endlessly ganked by level locked twinks trying to build 'faction', which is not a risk, just a royal pain in the butt.

[Kaalenarc]

Spyderbite@Venekor wrote: <blockquote><cite>FallenFeather wrote:</cite><blockquote>How come non of your pvp servers are on the transfer list? Why SOE, whyiiiii<span style="font-size: xx-small">iii.. !? </span></blockquote> I think its sort of cute how people phrase their posts as if they're talking to one of the Developers over the phone. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> What I don't understand is why anyone would want to transfer off a PvP server. I can completely understand wanting to transfer <b>to </b>a PvP server as it adds an element of risk to the game. And, they don't permit such transfers for obvious reasons. But, why would one, especially somebody who's spent 47 levels on a PvP server, want to transfer to a PvE server?? Guild drama? Not picking on the OP.. seriously curious. Inquiry minds want to know! <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></blockquote><p> I've recently had several people jump ship in the last few months and head over from the pvp servers to antonia bayle and join our guild. What I find the most common things are  - enjoying the ability to wander around and explore,without fear of being ganked, the ability to meet people from the other city and socialize with them, and , as a whole - groups in general for ANY content are much easier to get , since you can now draw from both the good and evil sides. Additionally, and this is an almost universal feedback in my small experince, the community as a whole is seen as more mature. No offense intended to the PvP folks of course, but thats what I hear most often. They get tired of the constant chest-thumping, trash-talking "im better than you" stuff that seems to permeate most PVP games, let alone EQ2.</p><p>PVP can be fun, but a lot of folks dont want it coloring every single aspect of their gameplay. That's why you see people leaving sometimes.   </p>

[Spyderbite]

Youris@Antonia Bayle wrote: <blockquote>As opposed to starting a new character on a PvP server, and being endlessly ganked by level locked twinks trying to build 'faction', which is not a risk, just a royal pain in the butt.</blockquote>That's somewhat of a wive's tale. The reason many people experience ganks, etc. when they create a new character on a PvP server after playing on a PvE server is that they have been conditioned in to a routine for leveling. Thus, they tend to go to all the same locations to train. PK's are well aware of this habit and tend to camp such spots. Finding a quiet area/zone to train, harvest and adventure will minimize these incidents quite a bit. Bottom line.. <b>everyone </b>gets killed/ganked on a PvP server no matter what level they are. Even the ones killing/ganking you have experienced it early on themselves. Perhaps I'm unique in that I've always considered these experiences motivating rather than frustrating. And, more so, I find it exhilarating when a few of those "twinks" run from me now with their tails tucked between their legs. <img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Spyderbite]

Kaalenarc@Antonia Bayle wrote: <blockquote><p>PVP can be fun, but a lot of folks dont want it coloring every single aspect of their gameplay. That's why you see people leaving sometimes.   </p></blockquote> Good answer. That I can completely understand. *tips hat*

[FallenFeather]

Spyderbite@Venekor wrote: <blockquote><cite>FallenFeather wrote:</cite><blockquote>How come non of your pvp servers are on the transfer list? Why SOE, whyiiiii<span style="font-size: xx-small">iii.. !? </span></blockquote> I think its sort of cute how people phrase their posts as if they're talking to one of the Developers over the phone. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> What I don't understand is why anyone would want to transfer off a PvP server. I can completely understand wanting to transfer <b>to </b>a PvP server as it adds an element of risk to the game. And, they don't permit such transfers for obvious reasons. But, why would one, especially somebody who's spent 47 levels on a PvP server, want to transfer to a PvE server?? Guild drama? Not picking on the OP.. seriously curious. Inquiry minds want to know! <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></blockquote>My buds are playing on a pve server, and also because pvp with a low server population can get kinda.. well, lonely. Ok Ignore this post , must have hit the "Quote" button instead of Edit by accident

[FallenFeather]

<cite>FallenFeather wrote:</cite><blockquote>Spyderbite@Venekor wrote: <blockquote><cite>FallenFeather wrote:</cite><blockquote>How come non of your pvp servers are on the transfer list? Why SOE, whyiiiii<span style="font-size: xx-small">iii.. !? </span></blockquote> I think its sort of cute how people phrase their posts as if they're talking to one of the Developers over the phone. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> What I don't understand is why anyone would want to transfer off a PvP server. I can completely understand wanting to transfer <b>to </b>a PvP server as it adds an element of risk to the game. And, they don't permit such transfers for obvious reasons. But, why would one, especially somebody who's spent 47 levels on a PvP server, want to transfer to a PvE server?? Guild drama? Not picking on the OP.. seriously curious. Inquiry minds want to know! <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></blockquote>My buds are playing on a pve server, and also because pvp with a low server population can get kinda.. well, lonely. (the one I want to transfer is lvl70, the one on pve48 atm) </blockquote>

[Sotaudi]

Spyderbite@Venekor wrote: <blockquote>Kaalenarc@Antonia Bayle wrote: <blockquote><p>PVP can be fun, but a lot of folks dont want it coloring every single aspect of their gameplay. That's why you see people leaving sometimes.   </p></blockquote> Good answer. That I can completely understand. *tips hat* </blockquote><p>I would agree with that, but I would go even further.  I find the idea of letting someone else decide for me that I want do not want to work on the quest I am working on but, rather, I want to "play" with them offensive.  I also find it bothersome to have to alter my choices (not go to a specific zone, group when I may not want to group, etc) simply because, if I don't, someone will decide for me that I want to PvP.  In other words, playing on a PvP server automatically grants other people, people you may not know or may not even like, the right to make choices for you.  I will not play on a PvP server simply because I will not grant someone else that right.</p><p>Note, that is not a slam against PvP.  I have no problem with PvP in general.  I enjoy it, but only if I can participate in it when I want to participate in it and ignore it when I don't wish to participate.  So I am not criticizing anyone who does not mind those things that bother me.  That is your choice.</p><p>However, I suspect that most people who will not play on a PvP server will not do so for similar reasons.  I also suspect that many people who would leave a PvP server if they could likewise have grown tired of having others interfere in things they want to do.</p><p>That is pretty much the same thing as having it "color" everything you do, but, in my case, it is a bit more specific.</p>

[Looker1010]

<cite>FallenFeather wrote:</cite><blockquote>PVP to PVE transfer, let it happen. I allready got a guardian that I've spent quite a alot of time with on Darathar server, but I'm not ever a gonna play him on THAT server again. So why not let me transfer him ?? I have tried making a new one, and got him on lvl 47, I'm spending alot of hours on this char that I realy don't feel that I should have to. I remember, that in that young time of pvp, a GM told one of my fellow guildies that a transfer could be done, but that his pvp equipment wouldn't be alowed to transfer! So whats this now ? How come non of your pvp servers are on the transfer list? Why SOE, whyiiiii<span style="font-size: xx-small">iii.. !? </span></blockquote> When the PVP servers were created SOE clearly stated that there would be no transfers to or from them. Accept the reality of this. If a GM told a guildie transfer was possible, something I highly doubt, the GM was wrong.

[tass]

they are going to allow pvp to pvp transers........ sometime...... In the next update or maybe another or a few after that.

[FallenFeather]

<cite>Looker1010 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>FallenFeather wrote:</cite><blockquote>PVP to PVE transfer, let it happen. I allready got a guardian that I've spent quite a alot of time with on Darathar server, but I'm not ever a gonna play him on THAT server again. So why not let me transfer him ?? I have tried making a new one, and got him on lvl 47, I'm spending alot of hours on this char that I realy don't feel that I should have to. I remember, that in that young time of pvp, a GM told one of my fellow guildies that a transfer could be done, but that his pvp equipment wouldn't be alowed to transfer! So whats this now ? How come non of your pvp servers are on the transfer list? Why SOE, whyiiiii<span style="font-size: xx-small">iii.. !? </span></blockquote> When the PVP servers were created SOE clearly stated that there would be no transfers to or from them. Accept the reality of this. If a GM told a guildie transfer was possible, something I highly doubt, the GM was wrong.</blockquote>Yeah, still, why shouldn't it be alowed ?

[Didi]

<cite>FallenFeather wrote:</cite><blockquote>Yeah, still, why shouldn't it be alowed ? </blockquote>I can't find the quote now, but I believe one of the developers explained a couple months back that because of the different rulesets, the characters are actually coded slightly differently on PvP servers than they are on PvE servers.  Because of this, transferring a PvP character to a PvE server would run a very high risk of actually causing character corruption, which is why they don't do it and don't ever plan to.

[Korpo]

<cite>Sotaudi wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I find the idea of letting someone else decide for me that I want do not want to work on the quest I am working on but, rather, I want to "play" with them offensive.  I also find it bothersome to have to alter my choices (not go to a specific zone, group when I may not want to group, etc) simply because, if I don't, someone will decide for me that I want to PvP.  In other words, playing on a PvP server automatically grants other people, people you may not know or may not even like, the right to make choices for you.  I will not play on a PvP server simply because I will not grant someone else that right.</p></blockquote> If people got to <b>choose</b> when they wanted to PVP, they would only PVP when they were invisible, full hp/pp, grouped with 5 other people of the same level, and staring at a green. The idea of playing on a PVP server is that you are <u>always</u> PVPing, unless you're in your room or an instance or something. From a RP standpoint, if you were out in the woods and your sworn enemies saw you, would they ask your permission to kill you?

[Grimwell]

Transfers from PVP to PVE (or the reverse) are very unlikely. As someone mentioned above, the character data sets are different for PVP players and PVE players -- so any transfer would cause havoc.

[Palleon]

<cite>Grimwell wrote:</cite><blockquote>Transfers from PVP to PVE (or the reverse) are very unlikely. As someone mentioned above, the character data sets are different for PVP players and PVE players -- so any transfer would cause havoc. </blockquote> Grimwell, can you at least help us out by finding out when the <b><u>PvP to PVP</u></b> transfers are happening? We were told about it weeks ago with a "it will be soon" and then nothing since!! Please?!

[Korpo]

I'm pretty sure if they had a specific date they would have given it, instead of saying "soon".

[juz]

<cite>Korpo wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Sotaudi wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I find the idea of letting someone else decide for me that I want do not want to work on the quest I am working on but, rather, I want to "play" with them offensive.  I also find it bothersome to have to alter my choices (not go to a specific zone, group when I may not want to group, etc) simply because, if I don't, someone will decide for me that I want to PvP.  In other words, playing on a PvP server automatically grants other people, people you may not know or may not even like, the right to make choices for you.  I will not play on a PvP server simply because I will not grant someone else that right.</p></blockquote> If people got to <b>choose</b> when they wanted to PVP, they would only PVP when they were invisible, full hp/pp, grouped with 5 other people of the same level, and staring at a green. The idea of playing on a PVP server is that you are <u>always</u> PVPing, unless you're in your room or an instance or something. From a RP standpoint, if you were out in the woods and your sworn enemies saw you, would they ask your permission to kill you? </blockquote><p> Lots of games have areas where PvP is open but in other zones you can't attack PvP and do some PvE. EQ2 is not one of those games and that's why I don't like EQ2 PvP.</p><p>Some people do and that's fine but what's good about eq2 PvP to you , might be the thing that myself and others find bad.</p>