Symbol adornment - +45 on heat spell or +25 on elemental spells?

[Inkar]

What do you guys think its best for a symbol adornment? 1.- +45 on any heat spell 2.- +25 on any elemental (heat or cold) spell

[electricninjasex]

For a wizard, +45 to heat edges out the +25. But if I had to do it over, I'd go with the 1% spell crit.

[duuf]

Electric is right and it probably a significant edge considering how slow some of our cold spells refresh. The other consideration is the +45 is legendary the +25 fabled.  On Everforst thats a many p difference in price.

[electricninjasex]

I actually calculated it on a sample parse and posted it on the flames site but I can't link to it from here because the moderators here can't handle 4-letter words.

[kingdeke]

Depending on how often you're grouped with a troub or a warlock the +dis +subj adornment is also a viable choice. It gets really annoying when half the mobs in an aoe encounter resist you're AOE's (not to mention it hurts your personal dps.)

[IllusiveThoughts]

<cite>electricninjasex wrote:</cite><blockquote>For a wizard, +45 to heat edges out the +25. But if I had to do it over, I'd go with the 1% spell crit.</blockquote><p> he speaks the truth!</p><p>however, if you're looking to min/max go 1% spell crit,</p><p> the three choices are close enough in terms of total damage gained that you can really pick which ever one you want as all 3 offer a damage increase.</p>

[Azmoran]

<p>I was just having this coversation today. So I came over to my Wizzie boards and sure enough, you guys are on the ball again.</p><p> I understand the +45 heat possibly beating the 25+ because the of the few cold spells and there general long cast times.</p><p>But is there a thread where it was found that 1% crit did as well or not better then +45 on heat spells? I looked for a thread and couldn't find one. If you could link it so I can go read over I would be very appreciative.</p><p> As a raiding Wizard that hasn't had a troub a long long time. I try to take great care with my selections to make sure the scouts with their dirges and coercers know I'm still nipping at them and occasionaly overtake them without a Trouby.</p>

[IllusiveThoughts]

<cite>Azmoran wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I was just having this coversation today. So I came over to my Wizzie boards and sure enough, you guys are on the ball again.</p><p> I understand the +45 heat possibly beating the 25+ because the of the few cold spells and there general long cast times.</p><p>But is there a thread where it was found that 1% crit did as well or not better then +45 on heat spells? I looked for a thread and couldn't find one. If you could link it so I can go read over I would be very appreciative.</p><p> As a raiding Wizard that hasn't had a troub a long long time. I try to take great care with my selections to make sure the scouts with their dirges and coercers know I'm still nipping at them and occasionaly overtake them without a Trouby.</p></blockquote><p>the difference between the 3 types is less than 5dps.  as I said all offer a dps increase, with 1% being the highest.  You really cant go wrong with any of them.  Think of it like an AA choice.</p>

[Lakespookie]

<p>illusive as always you spark thought in my mind, about how much dps are we looking at gaining,</p><p> and id assume that the crit chance would really depend on your current int, spell level, and would help more with someone who has not gone str,</p><p> i recently respeced away from agi, str to agi, wiz. and have been playing with manaburn... even though im still not sold on it on long duration fights and i have the parses to prove it lol,</p><p> but raid groups are captivated by the insane instant numbers on manaburn on short parses.....</p><p> plus an excuse for vymn is always nice <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>any how id like to know about where your int was when you tested the 1% crit chance. personally im probably going to go with the crit chance because i have a relativley high int, and im freehand now so the base damage should increase the multiplier with crits.</p>

[IllusiveThoughts]

<cite>Lakespookie wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>illusive as always you spark thought in my mind, about how much dps are we looking at gaining,</p><p> and id assume that the crit chance would really depend on your current int, spell level, and would help more with someone who has not gone str,</p><p> i recently respeced away from agi, str to agi, wiz. and have been playing with manaburn... even though im still not sold on it on long duration fights and i have the parses to prove it lol,</p><p> but raid groups are captivated by the insane instant numbers on manaburn on short parses.....</p><p> plus an excuse for vymn is always nice <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>any how id like to know about where your int was when you tested the 1% crit chance. personally im probably going to go with the crit chance because i have a relativley high int, and im freehand now so the base damage should increase the multiplier with crits.</p></blockquote><p>I cant take credit for the #'s another wizard on the wwchat channel contacted me and we went over a spreadsheet he made that was quite indepth comparing +spell dmg to +crit chance</p><p>basically they were close in terms of total damage, with +25 to elemental on the bottom +45 to heat 2nd and +1% crit chance 1st.</p><p>it also varied in that crit chance was better for ae spells/dots and +45 was just a hare lower on direct damage spells.</p><p>he took a large raid parse sample and used that as a baseline for the spreadsheet.  I dont recall what his int was.</p><p>on a side note +30 spell damage (to all types) was the break even point for bettering 1% crit chance (except aoe's)</p><p>and anything over +30 to all was better than +1% crit. </p>

[SacDaddy420]

I have the +85 power proc on the turtle dagger, and the +45 heat on the novum tectum. been that way for awhile. I think I'm gonna get the +1% crit on both of em.

[Lakespookie]

thanks illusive good to know