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Sirrian
03-02-2007, 06:25 PM
<p>I'm new to raid as wizard (but experienced raider since early T5)</p><p>What procing items would you recommend to maximize dps and stats?</p><p>For example a procing item with 15 int and 300 dmg, would it be better than an item with 30 int (more int adds more dmg to every spell). I'm at 700+ int </p><p>If that subject has been overtalked about could you give me a link of the best you guys found</p><p>Thanks,</p><p>Sirrian</p><p>Wizard 70 - Unrest - Paradigm</p>

Ultimatum
03-02-2007, 06:53 PM
I'm still trying to get as much proc gear as I can as well...here's my list so far, maybe some other Wizzys can fill in my gaps: -Hat: Breath of the Destroyer -Chest: Gown of Glory or Lunarspun Vest (don't know of any damage proccing chests) -Shoulders: Tarinax Shoulders that proc power (I'm too lazy to go to my station page to get the name <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Also, I'm nt sure of any damage proc gear here either) -Wrists: ?? -Gloves: Gloves of Sagacity -Legs: Class legs from Wuoshi (12 seconds shaved off Nova FTW!  Unsure of any damage proc gear here) -Boots: ?? -Cloak: Cloak of Ro or the hostile spell proc cloak (Sorry, I forget which Deity gives that) -Neck: Wraith Touched Necklace -Ear1: Mystical Orb of the Invoker -Ear2: ?? -Ring1: Ring of Supremacy -Ring2: ?? -Wrist1: Bracelet of Thule -Wrist2: Sash of Draining -Weapon: Grizzfazzles, Wind of Plasma from Unrest, Dagger from Chel'Drak -Secondary1: Fitzpitzle's Misty Protector (Stupid claymore not being available to exiles <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ) -Secondary2: Blood of the Brood Watcher Currently I use a few detaunt proc items as well as power proc items, and I don't have even half of the proc items I want...One thing is you better be sure to have at LEAST Amends or a Troub, if not both, or be prepared to die a lot <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> P.S. Sorry for not providing links, but I'm at work and can't really take that much time to look those up as well <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Hope this helps some though <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Check www.eq2idb.com , www.eq2linky.com or www.eq2llinks.com to look up the items to see them in-game <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

HerzenFunia
03-02-2007, 09:34 PM
<p>chest - gown of glory</p><p>head - circlet of living fire, breath of the destroyer</p><p>shoulders - tarinax shoulders</p><p>cuffs - insulent sleeves of focus</p><p>gloves - gloves of sagacity</p><p>pants - MO pants, fabled set pants</p><p>boots - matron boots, avatar boots.</p><p>wand - cheldrak dagger, grizzle, wand of tempest.</p><p>neck - MoA</p><p>earrings - mystical or of invoker and earring from Unrest with deagro proc</p><p>rings - ring of supermacy/ring of four winds/ring from obelisk of lost souls</p><p>wrist - bracelet of thule/sash of draining/wrist from matron</p><p>offhand - orb of dark reveller</p>

Cygnus Hyoga
03-03-2007, 04:05 AM
<p>Few weeks ago, i was a "proc-item addict". I tryed to have as many as i could to improve my dps. Yesterday we raided in HoS so i decided to see what amount of damage those procs really add. I was quite surprised. I don't give you the named of the item because it's in french, but i give you the description of the proc and how much DPS it really adds :</p><p>I calculated the dps like this : ( Total damage / damage done by proc ) * Total DPS. Those values come from 60 epic fights in HoS ( T7 KOS raid zone ).  </p><p>On a successufull hostile spell, deals 423-704 damage. will trigger 1.7time/min    =  18.6 DPS</p><p>On a successufull hostile spell, deals 147-246 damage. will trigger 1.8time/min    =  6.3 DPS</p><p>On a successufull hostile spell, deals 147-440 damage. will trigger 1.9time/min    =  10.7 DPS</p><p>On a successufull hostile spell, deals 155-258 damage. will trigger 1.7time/min    =  6.6 DPS</p><p>On a successufull hostile spell, deals 340-511 damage. will trigger 1.9time/min    =  12.2 DPS</p><p>Finally, the 5 procs all together only added me 54.3DPS. Conclusion I do prefer an item with sta/<span style="font-size: small">int</span>/wis and good resist or ward / regen mana / desagro procs instead of an item that has a damage proc. Only my point of view <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p>

Dextera
03-04-2007, 06:21 AM
Using the formula (procs per minute * dmg)/60 seconds, Grizzfazzle's adds a passive 11.1-20.6 DPS at 333-618 max dmg. Raid debuffs would cause this number to be higher.

electricninjasex
03-04-2007, 03:05 PM
You will have to learn how to balance dps procs and power regen procs, or some zones will eat you alive.

Darien al'Staff
03-05-2007, 12:42 PM
Fomka@Runnyeye wrote: <blockquote><p>chest - gown of glory</p><p>head - circlet of living fire, breath of the destroyer</p><p>shoulders - tarinax shoulders</p><p>cuffs - insulent sleeves of focus</p><p>gloves - gloves of sagacity</p><p>pants - MO pants, fabled set pants</p><p>boots - matron boots, avatar boots.</p><p>wand - cheldrak dagger, grizzle, wand of tempest.</p><p>neck - MoA</p><p>earrings - mystical or of invoker and earring from Unrest with deagro proc</p><p>rings - ring of supermacy/ring of four winds/ring from obelisk of lost souls</p><p>wrist - bracelet of thule/sash of draining/wrist from matron</p><p>offhand - orb of dark reveller</p></blockquote> A couple curiosities: 1.  I could have sworn the de-agro proc item from unrest was a RING not an earing. 2.  Orb of the Dark Revveller?  Why not go with the Blood of the Broodwatcher?

ksux
03-05-2007, 02:26 PM
Beeglin@Lucan DLere wrote: <blockquote>Fomka@Runnyeye wrote: <blockquote><p>earrings - mystical or of invoker and earring from Unrest with deagro proc</p></blockquote> A couple curiosities: 1.  I could have sworn the de-agro proc item from unrest was a RING not an earing. </blockquote>You are correct, it is a ring.  Hoop Of The Lost Mind +28 Wisdom +28 Intelligence +80 Mana +80 Health +540 Magic Resist +540 Mental Resist Clouded Mind - On a successful hostile spell this spell has a chance to cast Clouded Mind on target of spell. This effect will trigger an average of 1.8 timer per minute. Decreases threat to target by 980.

HerzenFunia
03-05-2007, 03:41 PM
Beeglin@Lucan DLere wrote: <blockquote>Fomka@Runnyeye wrote: <blockquote><p>chest - gown of glory</p><p>head - circlet of living fire, breath of the destroyer</p><p>shoulders - tarinax shoulders</p><p>cuffs - insulent sleeves of focus</p><p>gloves - gloves of sagacity</p><p>pants - MO pants, fabled set pants</p><p>boots - matron boots, avatar boots.</p><p>wand - cheldrak dagger, grizzle, wand of tempest.</p><p>neck - MoA</p><p>earrings - mystical or of invoker and earring from Unrest with deagro proc</p><p>rings - ring of supermacy/ring of four winds/ring from obelisk of lost souls</p><p>wrist - bracelet of thule/sash of draining/wrist from matron</p><p>offhand - orb of dark reveller</p></blockquote> A couple curiosities: 1.  I could have sworn the de-agro proc item from unrest was a RING not an earing. 2.  Orb of the Dark Revveller?  Why not go with the Blood of the Broodwatcher? </blockquote><p> yeah my bad it's a ring with deagro proc.</p><p>As for orb, well dmg from it > than dmg from brood, also it has pwr proc which makes this item miles better than brood on raids.</p>

Loolee
03-07-2007, 09:12 AM
 I've seen another earring with damage proc (bolt of energy) called Mana Commandand Hoop, yeah, I think the name is right. The guy I saw wearing it couldn't remember where he got it, but he knew it wasn't unrest. If anyone can find out where it comes from, I'd love to go score one.  Also, there's the wrist item with bolt of energy from the blackwater mask quest.  (This is Tonguu from Mob Squad channeling a post through my wife, yeah, buddy!)

kingdeke
03-07-2007, 11:12 AM
Fomka@Runnyeye wrote: <blockquote>Beeglin@Lucan DLere wrote: <blockquote>Fomka@Runnyeye wrote: <blockquote><p>chest - gown of glory</p><p>head - circlet of living fire, breath of the destroyer</p><p>shoulders - tarinax shoulders</p><p>cuffs - insulent sleeves of focus</p><p>gloves - gloves of sagacity</p><p>pants - MO pants, fabled set pants</p><p>boots - matron boots, avatar boots.</p><p>wand - cheldrak dagger, grizzle, wand of tempest.</p><p>neck - MoA</p><p>earrings - mystical or of invoker and earring from Unrest with deagro proc</p><p>rings - ring of supermacy/ring of four winds/ring from obelisk of lost souls</p><p>wrist - bracelet of thule/sash of draining/wrist from matron</p><p>offhand - orb of dark reveller</p></blockquote> A couple curiosities: 1.  I could have sworn the de-agro proc item from unrest was a RING not an earing. 2.  Orb of the Dark Revveller?  Why not go with the Blood of the Broodwatcher? </blockquote><p> yeah my bad it's a ring with deagro proc.</p><p>As for orb, well dmg from it > than dmg from brood, also it has pwr proc which makes this item miles better than brood on raids.</p></blockquote>The dmg component on the orb is a set amount, meaning it will always proc at that (~350 if i remember right.... i'm at work) instead of some [Removed for Content] 128-356 range; which we all know how the rng can turn sour on dmg spreads. That, and the fact that it procs power back make it vastly superior to blood.

kingdeke
03-07-2007, 11:16 AM
<cite>Loolee wrote:</cite><blockquote> I've seen another earring with damage proc (bolt of energy) called Mana Commandand Hoop, yeah, I think the name is right. The guy I saw wearing it couldn't remember where he got it, but he knew it wasn't unrest. If anyone can find out where it comes from, I'd love to go score one.  Also, there's the wrist item with bolt of energy from the blackwater mask quest.  (This is Tonguu from Mob Squad channeling a post through my wife, yeah, buddy!) </blockquote>Mana Commandment Hoop drops in Kaladim off one of the ring events. I don't know which one exactly, cause I've never seen it drop myself, but I asked an old SK guildie cause i've seen him loot them all the time.

wckron
03-07-2007, 02:00 PM
The Mana Commadant Hoop drop in Mistmoore Catacombs not Kaladim, its from that one gargoyle named.

kingdeke
03-07-2007, 02:02 PM
ah yeah, he's right... ignore me <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Kaycerzan
06-28-2007, 06:57 PM
Going off of memory, These are some numbers pulled from our FTH raid the other night Circlet of Living Fire - 5 dps Bracelet of Thule - 18 dps Godking (1h)  - 9 dps Fitzpitzle  - 18 dps RBB  -  20 dps Gloves of Sagacity  - 22 dps ummm... i think.   and i realize now I skipped the mystical fire earring.  dang. in other news.. does anyone have an idea on the conversion ratio of the Bolt of Energy effect vurses procs?  I know at one point i had a rough conversion chart, but now i can't find the data nor remember the formula I used to try and figure it out.

simpwrx02
06-29-2007, 11:15 AM
<p>For items that add damage to spell I just assume it will add what every the BoE is times 20 as it is normalized in theroy to a 3 second cast/recovery spell.  so BoE V  which add up to 25 per spell will add 500 damage per minute or 8 dps if it worked right.  However I do not think that BoE works like I stated as if I rememeber correctly it dosent even add the full amount of dameg to Ball of lava which is a 3 second cast and a .5 recovery which shoudl be above the normalized BS.  I think BoE also only adds to the max damage of the spell not the lower end, i cant remeber right now and I am at work so i cant check.  If that is the case then BoE what ever shoudl be divided in half as it will not up your average damage done by the spell by the amount listed.  </p><p>Average spell damage is min hit plus max hit divided by 2.  So proc items are better than BoE in most cases.</p><p>As for the proc gear I use</p><p>head Breath of the Destroyer ~350ish proc and a power drain   1.8 tpm</p><p>Circlet of dark thoughts 125 power proc 1.8 tpm (use this on long fight)</p><p>deaggro shoulders from the Hurler in DT, only use if aggro is an issue 500 deaggro 1.8 tpm</p><p>cowl of suffereing 10% chance on kill shot to get 556 power</p><p>gloves of sagacity ~600 damage 1.8 tpm</p><p>Belt BCG around 700 damaweg and 800debuff heat.cold  1.8 tpm</p><p>weapon wand of crytaslized plasma 12 seconds of 8% damage incrase on spell 1.8 tmp</p><p>  dagger from boss of unrest  200 power proc 1.8 tpm( use on long fights)</p><p>chest GoG (use on long fights) if not either relic chest or robe of the ancient codex varies relic is better for dps.</p><p>collection quest earring ~500 damage 1.8 tpm</p><p>I have crap for proc jewelry  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>off hand claymore reward because I dont have a second daamge proc item 1.8 tpm +69 to disruption/subjagation, and 1.8 tpm lower threat by 1 position.</p><p>ranged fitz ~400 ish damage and 200ish heal  1.8 tpm</p><p>And Ice lash FTW cast it at the start of every raid figth you can best time imho is as the tank is postioning the mob.  I average 8 hits with it per casting at 550 average damage woot or about 4500 personal damage not too shabby.</p><p>Procs make up probably about 10-20% of my dps especially if I have an illy in group I get TC and synergism  I am in heaven and can finally compete with the ranger wiht the star darkened bow .... /grumble 10K auto attack.</p>