Weapon adornments

[Reymien]

anyone have any parses on using the dmg proc'ing weapon adornments vs. the +12 piercing dmg weapon adornments?  a guy in my guild says that in his parses, my adornments aren't proc'ing much and that I may want to consider going with the raw +piercing dmg on my weapons. Any advice would be appreciated

[HellRaiserXX]

<p>What delay are your weapons? if you have a short delay the +12dmg may be better, longer delay weapons are going to favor the procs.  Also you might consider the +5 piercing adornments they will increase your chance to hit %. </p>

[Reymien]

I use a combo of GDoH, Dirk of Nightfall, and Rapier of Darkness usually go with the gdoh + rod, but when fighting orange vamps in MMIS, I've been trying don + rod cuz of the piercing mods

[Jayad]

Uhm the gdoh and rod have piercing bonuses, the DON doesn't.

[Reymien]

<cite>Jayad wrote:</cite><blockquote>Uhm the gdoh and rod have piercing bonuses, the DON doesn't.</blockquote> sorry, earlier i stated that i was using dirk of nightfall (also can be abbreviated DoN), which has a piercing mod (+7) <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> my bad

[olben]

<p>Alrighty, so for Vyemm's Fang - it being 1.6 delay - I should probably use a +12 piercing on it.</p><p>Or is the +12 poison damage even better?</p>

[Graton]

<cite>HellRaiserXX wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>What delay are your weapons? if you have a short delay the +12dmg may be better, longer delay weapons are going to favor the procs.  Also you might consider the +5 piercing adornments they will increase your chance to hit %. </p></blockquote> that would be true except that the amount of dmg scales to delay so if you put it on a faster weapon it doesn't hit for 12. i have it on a 1.9 delay weapon and it typically hits for 8 dmg. this may be hard to see if you use a +12 piercing adornment but if you use +12 poison it's quite easy to see. both the +12 dmg and the procs are really lousy dps. i've switched one of my weapons to the +5 piercing. i may do the same with the other or i may go with a mana tap, not sure yet.

[Satie]

2x+5 piercing ftw if you raid. If not and mostly grouping/soloing easier stuff i would stick with a +12 in main and a proc on secondary.

[Siclone]

<p>I am still a bit confused with all this adornment stuff,,,</p><p>if I have a weapon that already has + 5 piecing, its my understanding I cant add an adornment +5 piercing and get +10 , right?</p><p>and you cant add an "effect" if the weapon or gear already has an effect...is this right? </p>

[Jayad]

Piercing skill is cumulative. So if you have +5 piercing on a weapon, you can add a +5 piercing adornment to get +10 total from that weapon. In general you can adorn anything which is attunable and isn't flagged as being ORNATE. On a separate note, I know the +12 piercing is rather lame in terms of auto-attack, but it does increase all your piercing CA damage, doesn't it? That makes it worthwhile (in your primary hand)

[Graton]

<cite>Jayad wrote:</cite><blockquote>Piercing skill is cumulative. So if you have +5 piercing on a weapon, you can add a +5 piercing adornment to get +10 total from that weapon. In general you can adorn anything which is attunable and isn't flagged as being ORNATE. On a separate note, I know the +12 piercing is rather lame in terms of auto-attack, but it does increase all your piercing CA damage, doesn't it? That makes it worthwhile (in your primary hand)</blockquote>it does add dmg to the initial melee hit of your ca's but not enough to be worthwhile. i parsed +12 poison in the main and the offhand vs the scintillating procs and the procs are much better zonewide. mind you, both of them stink and  i'd go either two +5 piercing or maybe +5 piercing and a mana tap. for classes that have a lot of multi swing attacks these things might be decent. the +12 dmg bow adornments for example fire off 3 times when you use assailing blast.

[Reymien]

which adornment is for the power tap?

[Hawkewind]

<p>Can anyone explain why +5 piercing is better than +12 piercing adornment (or at least that is what I think I am reading here for advice)?  Seems like you are all saying that if you raid +5 piercing is way to go...why that over higher piercing adornment?</p><p>thanks!</p>

[olben]

<p>The +12 piercing adornment will add +12(or so) damage to every single attack you make, be it auto attack or a CA. The +5 piercing will add +5 piercing skill to the weapon, making you hit more often. Correct me if Im wrong, but thats how I understand it.</p><p>And - as far as I know - the powertap is called Scintillating Phantom Handle. It decreases power of target by 184 and Increases power of caster by 140. Its legendary, and made by a Transmuter(65). I dont know then, if this one is only for primary or also for secondary.</p>

[Historios]

<cite>olben wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The +12 piercing adornment will add +12(or so) damage to every single attack you make, be it auto attack or a CA. The +5 piercing will add +5 piercing skill to the weapon, making you hit more often. Correct me if Im wrong, but thats how I understand it.</p></blockquote> You are correct.