Nek 3

[Mr. Dawki]

<p>Not whining , just saying</p><p>Went into nek 3 and it seems like the 3 entrance mobs are no longer charmable as well as the little whisp mobs. i didnt go much farther than that as i was eaten alive becaus i had no pet to fight back with</p><p>i didnt try the fake chest monster or the wraith trap mobs.......i hope to god the boxes are still charmeable</p>

[Aidynn]

Just did a run through Nek, tried charming every mob I came across.  It was a loot run, so we didn't go for *every* mob in the zone, just the ones between named mobs. Almost nothing was charmable. I found 2 charmable mobs in the whole zone.  The ghostly remains that fight against the Band of the Scarlet Witch and the level 65 putrid rats in the stables area with the shrinking traps. I was less than amused.

[TuxDave]

<cite>Aidynn wrote:</cite><blockquote>Just did a run through Nek, tried charming every mob I came across.  It was a loot run, so we didn't go for *every* mob in the zone, just the ones between named mobs. Almost nothing was charmable. I found 2 charmable mobs in the whole zone.  The ghostly remains that fight against the Band of the Scarlet Witch and the level 65 putrid rats in the stables area with the shrinking traps. I was less than amused. </blockquote> I haven't tried Nek3 for like a month or two but when I last did it the crates weren't charmable. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  So my group just had to finish the last 10 minutes of the zone the normal way.

[Cattastrophy]

Yeah... we really got smacked in the face with the Nerf-bat. Numerous mobs aren't charmable now in almost all the instances... been thinking about changing my AA because of it. So not to sound like a whiner... but if they are going to make Charm almost useless they should seriously change the way Spell Scourge and Cataclysmic Mind work so at least we can DPS harder... consistently. Hate to say it, but even the thought of going Illusionist has crossed my mind... *gasp*

[Chog]

What instances can we no longer charm in? Nek3 and?

[Cattastrophy]

The only two that I've tried are the two I like to Charm in, Nek3 and Vaults (for the AE mobs... I normally AE the zone with an SK and healer). I've heard from other Coercers, and a certain Inqu that loves his God charm, that it's in almost all the old instances. Where there is like 1 ~ 3 mobs that are charmable now. Not like I depend on this ability to do things, it's just annoying that the one thing that makes our class unique is kinda useless in instances and totally useless on raids now.

[Chog]

So "almost all the instances" should read "a small number of T7 (2) and unconfirmed in other tiers." Call me crazy but I actually like the truth compared to over inflating the facts to make an argument look better. With that said, can all intances have charmable mobs for Coercers!

[Varg_MM]

I have to admit, I still find it amusing they added charmable pets to Labs zone-in, even if the pets are garbage.

[Cattastrophy]

"So "almost all the instances" should read "a small number of T7 (2) and unconfirmed in other tiers."" - Um, I trust my friends... apparently you don't. And you'd think if the God Charm doesn't land ours would?  Either way I will be attempting the other zones to "confirm" this information. So instead of correcting other people, why not assist a little bit and get the info I was lacking, then share it with the rest of us... *gasp!*.

[Chog]

<cite>Cattastrophy wrote:</cite><blockquote>"So "almost all the instances" should read "a small number of T7 (2) and unconfirmed in other tiers."" - Um, I trust my friends... apparently you don't. And you'd think if the God Charm doesn't land ours would?  Either way I will be attempting the other zones to "confirm" this information. So instead of correcting other people, why not assist a little bit and get the info I was lacking, then share it with the rest of us... *gasp!*. </blockquote><p> Easy, every T7 instance in EoF or Kos besides Vaults (have not been there with my Coercer) have charmable mobs.  Nek3 (I have not been to with my Coercer) does not have charmable mobs.  Nizara has charmable mobs.  So that is 2 zones Coercers can not charm (not including Raid zones of course), incidently those are the only 2 zones I have not been to with my Coercer, so I am taking your word they can not be charmed.</p><p>I was 50ish+ with my Coercer when EoF was released and was able to charm mobs in all T6 zones / instances.  Of course I stopped going to the DoF instances when EoF was released (new content and all).  I was able to charm in every zone (T6+) in EoF with no problems though.</p><p>Does that help in listing the zones we can charm in still?</p>

[AziBam]

I haven't run Nek3 with my coercer yet.  I do hear from friends that it's a pita now with so few mobs to charm.  I have yet to receive a message that something can't be charmed in the vaults.  I've been there a few times within just the last week or two and had no troubles.  Blackscale was fine, although they seemed to break more regularly there and I have charm AA maxed as well as subj AA maxed while wearing as much + subj gear as possible.  I do find that characteristic pretty annoying.  (Charm breaking so much.)  I have only had one no-charm mob in OoB but it was a [Removed for Content] one anyway from beginning of zone that I tried to take just to have something until a better pet became available deeper in. (One of the flying hallway things...automaton?)  HoF was fine.  CoV was fine.  Nizara was fine.  PoA, SoS, Acad, all fine.  The only zone I've really noted trouble in so far was Kaladim.  So many of the mobs in the central area are now associated with one ring event or another there don't seem to be too many left to grab without great difficulty.  Haven't hit Unrest yet with the coercer. 

[Chog]

Unrest suffers the same fate as Kaladim. A lot of the encounters can not be charmed because they are part of a ring event. Encounters also remove buffs from players, so if a mob removes your charm... <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> So now we are left with 1 Zone that can not be charmed (still have not been to Nek3 or Vaults with the Coercer). Glad one zone can be categorized as almost all instances... And people wonder why I dislike miss-information.