Languages? Factions?

[Izalu]

<p>With a humble level 15 Froglok Troubadour I'm still very new to the world of Everquest, trying to take in what I can when I can. </p><p> As a WoW player, too, I'm all too familiar with the concept of seperating either faction to the point that one cannot even communicate with the other without an overwhelming amount of work on either party's part. I take it, though, that such isn't the case in this game. The guild I joined had a mix of evil, good, and neutral characters, too. How does one become neutral, anyway? And, better question still, what's the most noteworthy seperation of good and evil characters?</p><p> On a completly different note, is it possible to learn the languages of another player's race? For example, a High Elf learning Guktan so that he or she could communicate in private with a Froglok?</p>

[Norrsken]

<cite>Izalu wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>With a humble level 15 Froglok Troubadour I'm still very new to the world of Everquest, trying to take in what I can when I can. </p><p> As a WoW player, too, I'm all too familiar with the concept of seperating either faction to the point that one cannot even communicate with the other without an overwhelming amount of work on either party's part. I take it, though, that such isn't the case in this game. The guild I joined had a mix of evil, good, and neutral characters, too. How does one become neutral, anyway? And, better question still, what's the most noteworthy seperation of good and evil characters?</p><p> On a completly different note, is it possible to learn the languages of another player's race? For example, a High Elf learning Guktan so that he or she could communicate in private with a Froglok?</p></blockquote>Should be npcs selling language primers in the villages in qeynos. And on the pve servers, there really are no big distinction to evil/good apart from in which city you can live. The neutral classes/races can live in both Q and FP. And of course we have the exileds. Not sure how common they are on the PvE servers though. Its a factionish thing you stay inw hile betraying.

[DwarvesR]

<p>The languages for the player-character races can be found in each of the racial districts in the various cities.  They are sold by the scribes in each city.  Neutral races can have their languages learned in either city.  Good-only and evil-only races can only have their primers bought in their respective cities, and the scribes will refuse to sell to opposite aligned characters.</p><p>A character can learn all the languages in his home city, then betray and learn all the ones in the new city.</p><p>The Fae language can be learned by completing a short quest offered by a language trainer in Kelethin.  It's available to FP, Q, and K citizens alike, though Fae obviously already speak it.</p><p>Beyond that, other languages can be learned by collecting certain body-drops off mobs that speak that language -- puzzle boxes off lizardmen for Thulian language, Harpy quills tor Screech language, and so on.</p><p>There's also Druzaic and Draconic which must be quested.  Druzaic starters are found in the mage academies of the cities and involve finding 4 shrines.  Draconic requires you first speak Krombral (giant) and then make a run to the bottom of Solusek's Eye zone to speak with a dragon there. . . except he won't talk to you since you don't speak draconic, so his giant chamberlain (who only speaks Krombral) will start you on the road to being able to collect the 27 runes in order to learn draconic. . . . </p><p>The kobold/bugbear language requires you to talk to a "lingualogian" in Steamfont, then collect 15 body-drop items.  So far as I know, the Tik-Tok language of the Clockworks can't be learned at this time.</p>

[DrkVsr]

<span style="font-size: small; color: #993300; font-family: comic sans ms,sand">Personally, ah hope Tik-Tok <b><i><u>never</u></i></b> becomes a learnable language (it will be like a North American trying to learn the language of the Kalahari Bushman) currently no flesh'n'blood race on, in or under, Norrath have the physical ability to speak in binary (and only the Gnomes, and maybe the Erudites, have the mental capacity to even understand it)</span>

[Zagats]

If you're good-aligned, you can purchase all the language primers (other than the ones that must be quested) in Kelethin.  Yes, both good and evil languages.

[SpritRaja]

<cite>CAMajere wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="font-size: small; color: #993300; font-family: comic sans ms,sand">Personally, ah hope Tik-Tok <b><i><u>never</u></i></b> becomes a learnable language (it will be like a North American trying to learn the language of the Kalahari Bushman) currently no flesh'n'blood race on, in or under, Norrath have the physical ability to speak in binary (and only the Gnomes, and maybe the Erudites, have the mental capacity to even understand it)</span></blockquote><p> If they make a quest where in you acquire parts for and build a small machine that verbally translates tik-tok into common and vice versa then you have effectively learned the language.</p><p>You will not necesarilly need to actually talk it. This is a mgical world anything is possible even talking in binary with an IQ of 2.</p>

[Daraskin]

<cite>Zagats wrote:</cite><blockquote>If you're good-aligned, you can purchase all the language primers (other than the ones that must be quested) in Kelethin.  Yes, both good and evil languages.</blockquote> Does anyone know how to go about doing this? I went to Kelethin but the scribe only had the same languages for sale that are in Qeynos. Is there a separate merchant somewhere that sells the evil languages? Thanks.

[Rokaab]

<cite>Daraskin wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Zagats wrote:</cite><blockquote>If you're good-aligned, you can purchase all the language primers (other than the ones that must be quested) in Kelethin.  Yes, both good and evil languages.</blockquote> Does anyone know how to go about doing this? I went to Kelethin but the scribe only had the same languages for sale that are in Qeynos. Is there a separate merchant somewhere that sells the evil languages? Thanks. </blockquote><p>You cant, it was a bug that the Kelethin scribe sold the evil race languages and its been fixed.</p><p>Evil characters have never been able to buy the good race languages and good races were never able to buy the evil race languages (well, until that bug briefly popped up). Pretty much the only way you can get both good and evil ones is to betray  so you can get the other ones.  </p>

[Kellin]

<p>It is possible to learn some of the opposite aligned languages through quests.  There is one for high elf language, for sure, and I believe Thexian is the language the dark elves speak.</p><p>These are only available (that I know of) so characters of opposite alignment can complete some of the Heritage and Signature quests that require you to speak to someone who does not speak common.</p>

[DrkVsr]

<p>Saphira@Crushbone wrote: </p><blockquote><cite>CAMajere wrote:</cite><blockquote>Personally, ah hope Tik-Tok <b><i><u>never</u></i></b> becomes a learnable language (it will be like a North American trying to learn the language of the Kalahari Bushman) currently no flesh'n'blood race on, in or under, Norrath have the physical ability to speak in binary (and only the Gnomes, and maybe the Erudites, have the mental capacity to even understand it)</blockquote><p> If they make a quest where in you acquire parts for and build a small machine that verbally translates tik-tok into common and vice versa then you have effectively learned the language.</p><p>You will not necesarilly need to actually talk it. This is a mgical world anything is possible even talking in binary with an IQ of 2.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #993300">Ah could accept a Universal Translator, would make sense (and only if it works for the Tik-Toks <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />) would be even more cool if it was something like that fishie from Hitchhikers <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span></p>

[DwarvesR]

<cite>Rokaab wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Daraskin wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Zagats wrote:</cite><blockquote>If you're good-aligned, you can purchase all the language primers (other than the ones that must be quested) in Kelethin.  Yes, both good and evil languages.</blockquote> Does anyone know how to go about doing this? I went to Kelethin but the scribe only had the same languages for sale that are in Qeynos. Is there a separate merchant somewhere that sells the evil languages? Thanks. </blockquote><p>You cant, it was a bug that the Kelethin scribe sold the evil race languages and its been fixed.</p><p>Evil characters have never been able to buy the good race languages and good races were never able to buy the evil race languages (well, until that bug briefly popped up). Pretty much the only way you can get both good and evil ones is to betray  so you can get the other ones.  </p></blockquote><p>Well, for a long time there was a bug that if you were invisible you could buy from a merchant that wouldn't normally serve you too.  I admit I took advantage of that on my DE warlock.  the only racial languages she doesn't speak are High Elf and Froglok.  The guards all saw invis back then and I couldn't ever sneak her across CH to get to the scribe. . . . but I got all the other languages in Qeynos then.</p><p>However, what he says is now true -- to speak all the player-character racial languages, you gotta learn them in your home city, then betray. </p>

[mellowknees72]

<cite>DrkVsr wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="font-size: small; color: #993300; font-family: comic sans ms,sand">Personally, ah hope Tik-Tok <b><i><u>never</u></i></b> becomes a learnable language (it will be like a North American trying to learn the language of the Kalahari Bushman) currently no flesh'n'blood race on, in or under, Norrath have the physical ability to speak in binary (and only the Gnomes, and maybe the Erudites, have the mental capacity to even understand it)</span></blockquote><p> awwww...come on...Luke Skywalker always knew what R2 was saying, even though it was beeps and clicks.  Surely we Norrathians could learn to communicate with clockworks in the same manner.  Especially tinkerers.</p><p>And who says gnomes and erudites are so much smarter than the rest of us anyway?  Gnomes are just tiny engineers, and erudites are such librarians that their skin changed over 500 years because they were fiddling around with too much magic and not looking in mirrors.</p><p>Besides, there are PLENTY of us nrrds out here in real life who can and do speak in programming languages every day.  My halflings are not so dumb that they couldn't learn what it sounds like when a clockwork is trying to explain that it has an extra "GOTO 10" line.</p>

[DrkVsr]

<p><span style="font-size: small"><span style="color: #993300">Luke knew what Artoo was saying because was an Ultra-Jedi, and even then he could only understand what Artoo said, but not speak the same 'language'</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: small"><span style="color: #993300">Nrrds may speak in 'code', they may even understand binary (without having to look it up or spend too long thinking about it) but that still does not mean they can speak it</span></span></p>