Hurricanus Exploit?

[s]

<DIV>There are people pathetic enough that they have to exploit this mob to kill it yes..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As a matter of fact, this exploit is given as the official strategy to beating the encounter over on that one website where strats for raid mobs are posted *cough*. Sadly enough everyone will know where this is, but seeing as posting direct links to places explaining exploits is forbidden.. oh well.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>How can anyone look up this info and it isn't fixed? A pickup raid killed hurricanus early in the morning on our server today by bugging the spawned adds. They couldn't do it the proper way. How can this information be all over the internet for anyone to pick up, but not be fixed? And why is this PU-raid allowed to do this and get away with it?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Fix please.</DIV>

[PhroZenAssassin]

<P>Why exploit an already 2-groupable gimped [I cannot control my vocabulary] mob :smileymad:</P> <P><IMG src="http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3937/buggedhurri1yv7.png"></P> <P><A href="http://eq2.raidmobs.com/mobs_detailed.php?mob_id=138" target=_blank>http://eq2.raidmobs.com/mobs_detailed.php?mob_id=138</A> *cough*</P> <P> </P> <P>Yes, I'm dissapointed to lose the mob, especially to a PU-raid like any raider would. But on the other hand I would've congratulated them if it wasn't an exploited/bugged kill. First pull they had liftfingers spawning into drakes, second pull there was one liftfinger that spawned the whole fight. Grats....?</P><p>Message Edited by PhroZenAssassin on <span class=date_text>01-30-2007</span> <span class=time_text>10:18 AM</span>

[Traxor789]

<DIV>The whole encounter is buggy. You can click the statue to put the orb in. Sometimes it takes 5 peoples orbs and still the droag turns into a drake. Sometimes it does it so fast you cant put an orb in there. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So if you cant do anything with the thing.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And if you have over 20k raid dps , why not mezz adds and kill hurricans and let him heal. If you you have any skill its a [Removed for Content] encounter.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If the whole "orb " thing was fixed guilds would do it that way.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>but if you cant , then its not an exploit to kill a mob with brute force rather then stratagy</DIV>

[Judist]

<P>While the exploit method is a cheesy way to kill the mob, to discredit a KoS raid these days because it was pickup dosent really matter anymore. Every casual player by now has well over 50aa. Most should actually have 70-80+ by now which adds to better players. Then you have diety abilities. Lastly, coupled with a long period of time in T7 to gear up and you have a formidable force. You might get a few true newbs but the core is usually still strong.</P> <P>All it takes to beat this encounter is a decent leader and 2-3 players who are all on the same page for add managment. Everyone else can just assist like normal. Not that hard. And if you think about it, a pickup raid can do about anything in KoS if they just listen to a good leader. Of course you have many exceptions but I dont think Hurricanus is one of them.</P> <P> </P><p>Message Edited by BeatinGuts on <span class=date_text>01-30-2007</span> <span class=time_text>11:13 AM</span>

[Dogm]

<P>The real problem with Hurricanus is that he is way too easy, and you can ignore the idol and just burn the mob with 2 groups or less and still win.   The effects from the idol have been toned down so much they can be shrugged off.   </P> <P>Some posts here don't seem to understand how the orb works.   What happens is every x seconds the idol becomes clickable,  you click the idol and the Droag spawns.   Then you right click the droag and activate him and kill him.   The <STRONG><EM>ONLY </EM></STRONG>time your orb will get stolen is if you don't click the Droag to activate him,  after a few seconds of sitting there he will activate himself and steal somebodys orb.    If you ignore the idol you don't lose an orb, if you activate the Droag you don't lose an orb.   The Droag does not turn into a drake, the idol will summon a drake if one of the adds are dead.   </P> <P>If this other raid had only 1 liftfinger spawn then they prolly just skipped the idol and burned Hurricanus,  thats how most raid guilds do it now that the idol effects are laughable.   Doing it this way isn't an exploit, but just shows a flaw with how easy it has become, that you can skip the scripted part of the event.    </P> <P>Unless of course, if there is no orb in the raid then the liftfinger just stays in White-NPC form since there is nobody to steal one from.  If that is the case, I would say clicking the idol then trading the orb, would be an exploit, but why bother when the Idol effects are very minimal anyways.</P>

[Amith]

<div></div><div></div><p>Message Edited by Amithex on <span class=date_text>01-30-2007</span> <span class=time_text>02:53 PM</span>

[RatWithGun]

<P>Almost as bad as a certain guild mass farming the Maj`Dul dragons with exploits in DoF *cough* :smileywink:</P> <P>P.S Didn't the same infamous guild get a server first kill on Hurricanus by using a FD brawler to deactivate the orb and hence wouldn't lose his totem :smileyvery-happy:</P><p>Message Edited by RatWithGun on <span class=date_text>01-30-2007</span> <span class=time_text>02:38 PM</span>

[Krilinye]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> sro wrote:<BR> <DIV>There are people pathetic enough that they have to exploit this mob to kill it yes..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As a matter of fact, this exploit is given as the official strategy to beating the encounter over on that one website where strats for raid mobs are posted *cough*. Sadly enough everyone will know where this is, but seeing as posting direct links to places explaining exploits is forbidden.. oh well.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>How can anyone look up this info and it isn't fixed? A pickup raid killed hurricanus early in the morning on our server today by bugging the spawned adds. They couldn't do it the proper way. How can this information be all over the internet for anyone to pick up, but not be fixed? And why is this PU-raid allowed to do this and get away with it?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Fix please.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Well, me and my friends open raids have taken down several of the T7 encounters. Vyemm, Tarinax, Amorpheus Drake and almost cleared HoS too.</P> <P> </P> <P>The thing with Hurricanus is that pretty much none in the raid knew the "correct" tactic for him. So they just picked up a tactic from a website, not knowing if its an exploit or not.</P> <P> </P> <P>Edit: Oh, just noticed you were from Fable. Guess your sad about not being faster than a open raid to grab a contested, and feel like flaming them? afterall, your name is Flaeme...</P> <P>Message Edited by Krilinye on <SPAN class=date_text>01-31-2007</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>09:20 AM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Krilinye on <span class=date_text>01-31-2007</span> <span class=time_text>09:25 AM</span>

[Triste-Lune]

poor fable not able to gather the 10 peeps needed to kill the gimped mob before a pick up raid forms.

[s]

<DIV>I guess if hardly anyone knew it was an exploit makes it ok then...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And yes if I lose a mob due to someone else exploiting it I think I have the right to be a little [Removed for Content] off wouldn't you think? I have no problem with people killing mobs the way it's intended but when they don't, whoever they are, it is wrong. Open raids taking down other mobs or zones again has nothing to do with this. You're attempting to turn this into another HC guild whine over casuals doing stuff they shouldn't be doing. You're bloody wrong though, this is about using an exploit and wether your guildtag says fable or some other random guild (care to say who you are?) I don't care. exploit = exploit, regardless of who is doing it.</DIV>

[ThunderFunky]

<DIV>Oh ffs Flaeme get over yourself already , its a mob that you have had locked down in Splitpaw for ages pretty much with occasional kills from Validus and others, you must have all the loot from the mob anyway.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Just because a pick up raid killed your mob you cant take it - cry me a river and get over it</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It was nice to see some non raiders get some loot from this chump mob anyway</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Fable were the original kings of exploitation a la Maj Dul so dont come on here all prim and proper like you are a responsible raid guild</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Gratz on the kill all, gratz on the loot</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>out</DIV>

[Triste-Lune]

you are [Removed for Content] because you lost it to a PUR you are just then ranting because they exploited but you would have been as much [Removed for Content] if they didnt exploited.We take him down with 11~12 peeps ( with 3 on average boxed ) and we dont have to exploit like you seems to implicitely say.it makes me giggle that fable wasnt able to gather 10 peeps to kill it before a PUR form up and use the exploit wich seems to involve wiping once iirc from the link hux posted (not sure how the exploit works, wasnt aware there was one).come on a PUR takes ages to form up, i tried twice on a alt to take part on a PUR and i just couldnt stand to wait 1 hour before getting started...

[Illustrious]

<DIV> guess if hardly anyone knew it was an exploit makes it ok then... And yes if I lose a mob due to someone else exploiting it I think I have the right to be a little [Removed for Content] off wouldn't you think? I have no problem with people killing mobs the way it's intended but when they don't, whoever they are, it is wrong. Open raids taking down other mobs or zones again has nothing to do with this. You're attempting to turn this into another HC guild whine over casuals doing stuff they shouldn't be doing. You're bloody wrong though, this is about using an exploit and wether your guildtag says fable or some other random guild (care to say who you are?) I don't care. exploit = exploit, regardless of who is doing it. </DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Just a question. Seen as you are HC and have no doubt spent several days camped in EH like most HC guilds to kill or try to kill Woushi. Have you used the menderbot exploit like most other guilds do in there? or do you use it properly and take a billion repair kits as well.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Im not saying you do use that exploit because i have no idea one way or the other, but i have heard of other guilds using it in there to get through the dozens of wipes on some of the harder/more bugged mobs. It would be hypocritical if you flame someone for 1 exploit but continue to use another exploit yourself.</DIV>

[PhroZenAssassin]

<BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Just a question. Seen as you are HC and have no doubt spent several days camped in EH like most HC guilds to kill or try to kill Woushi. Have you used the menderbot exploit like most other guilds do in there? or do you use it properly and take a billion repair kits as well.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Im not saying you do use that exploit because i have no idea one way or the other, but i have heard of other guilds using it in there to get through the dozens of wipes on some of the harder/more bugged mobs. It would be hypocritical if you flame someone for 1 exploit but continue to use another exploit yourself.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Wrong. We do not use this mender bot exploit, we have a few mender bots in guild and can summon a fresh one within a short period of time from another. The one time one did bug, other mender bots where summoned.