EoF instant content issues

[rubels]

<DIV>Any chance to have the loot tables updated to include some trade gear in EOF instants. The main reason im stating this </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>once a person has all there class specific drops out of these zones... There pointless. Thats a major problem in </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>content ... since once again. I am back to KOS for cash drops for time invested in a zone. Any feed back be appreciated.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>- Krov </DIV>

[Zmobie]

Instance.Their.They're.Pedantry aside... if they are pointless, don't do them. The EoF instances already drop some of the best gear in the (non-raiding) game. Hell, some of it is even better than KoS raid gear... I've had 2 pieces, Relic Legs and Nocturnal Supremacy, replaced by EoF instance Legendary.I'd be perfectly happy if every single piece of gear in the instances were NOTRADE.--Plague

[Killerbee3000]

<div><blockquote><hr>Zmobie wrote:Instance.Their.They're.Pedantry aside... if they are pointless, don't do them. The EoF instances already drop some of the best gear in the (non-raiding) game. Hell, some of it is even better than KoS raid gear... I've had 2 pieces, Relic Legs and Nocturnal Supremacy, replaced by EoF instance Legendary.I'd be perfectly happy if every single piece of gear in the instances were NOTRADE.--Plague<hr></blockquote>the ops point was something else, it was that the no trade loot in there makes it completly pointless to do those zones again once oyu have your loot from there....</div>

[Gungo]

<P>This is true BUT that is probably why i havent really done OOB, academy or Valdoons in over a month BUT i still get plenty to seel from the contested zones. First try Kaladim, if it gets to packed try catacombs, if it gets to packed try mm castle. If it get to packed which is highly unlikely, i have been to mmcastel dozens of times on my loot named run and i have only seen a group in my loot area once and that group had to follow my path to the named area that i cleared. In fact i am going there right now =p.</P> <P>The only real issue is New tunaria needs to get upgraded in droprates and quality.</P><p>Message Edited by Gungo on <span class=date_text>01-25-2007</span> <span class=time_text>02:14 PM</span>

[Killerbee3000]

<div><blockquote><hr>Gungo wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <p>This is true BUT that is probably why i havent really done OOB, academy or Valdoons in over a month BUT i still get plenty to seel from the contested zones. First try Kaladim, if it gets to packed try catacombs, if it gets to packed try mm castle. If it get to packed which is highly unlikely, i have been to mmcastel dozens of times on my loot named run and i have only seen a group in my loot area once and that group had to follow my path to the named area that i cleared. In fact i am going there right now =p.</p> <p>The only real issue is New tunaria needs to get upgraded in droprates and quality.</p><p>Message Edited by Gungo on <span class="date_text">01-25-2007</span> <span class="time_text">02:14 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>dont get me started on new tunaria.......</div>

[rubels]

<P>yea , that was my original point ... once you have all "your" gear ... the contents pointless.</P> <P>The message had nothing to do with other zones.</P> <P>- Krov</P>

[joeygopher]

Yup and with the best will in the world, if you are the last person in your regular group that needs their forearms, valdoon is going to be at the bottom of the list of things your friends would like to do with you tonight.

[Trynnus1]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> joeygopher wrote:<BR> <P>Yup and with the best will in the world, if you are the last person in your regular group that needs their forearms, valdoon is going to be at the bottom of the list of things your friends would like to do with you tonight.<BR></P> <P></P> <HR> <P>QFE - I never have to go back the either zone TFG. Only took 30 runs through OOB for my boots. I wish there was a reason to go back but drops are better elsewhere. I will go for guildies, but consider I am usually the one putting the groups together......</P></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Gungo]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> rubelson wrote:<BR> <P>yea , that was my original point ... once you have all "your" gear ... the contents pointless.</P> <P>The message had nothing to do with other zones.</P> <P>- Krov</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Its true with all content. Once you have everything you need, gotten all the aa xp from named, got all the disco aa xp, collected all the items you want. Why go back?<BR><BR>In oob and valdoons you got a few items that are tradable. Like the auditor of silence. But so many people do this zone on a daily basis the market is saturated. So why go back?</P> <P>The point is you don't need to move onto harder content. Heck i still do nizara occasionally for friends.</P>

[Trynnus1]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gungo wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> rubelson wrote:<BR> <P>yea , that was my original point ... once you have all "your" gear ... the contents pointless.</P> <P>The message had nothing to do with other zones.</P> <P>- Krov</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Its true with all content. Once you have everything you need, gotten all the aa xp from named, got all the disco aa xp, collected all the items you want. Why go back?<BR><BR>In oob and valdoons you got a few items that are tradable.<STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000> Like the auditor of silence</FONT></STRONG>. But so many people do this zone on a daily basis the market is saturated. So why go back?</P> <P>The point is you don't need to move onto harder content. Heck i still do nizara occasionally for friends.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Ah but this item is LORE and I am wearing one so I can not get another to sell even at a low price. This is my point, and I believe what the OP is getting at. Between Lore and No Trade, there is no Legendary loot that can "farmed"<BR>

[Zmobie]

<blockquote><hr>Trynnus1 wrote:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE>Ah but this item is LORE and I am wearing one so I can not get another to sell even at a low price. This is my point, and I believe what the OP is getting at. Between Lore and No Trade, there is no Legendary loot that can "farmed"<BR><hr></blockquote>You don't think maybe, just maybe this is exactly WHY the loot is NOTRADE? To prevent you and others from farming it?Perhaps the devs actually WANT the people who are going to use the class gear to actually put forth the effort of going out and getting it, and not just buying it from a farmer on the broker?Go farm somewhere else.--Plague

[Mareth]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Zmobie wrote:<blockquote><hr>Trynnus1 wrote:<div></div><blockquote>Ah but this item is LORE and I am wearing one so I can not get another to sell even at a low price. This is my point, and I believe what the OP is getting at. Between Lore and No Trade, there is no Legendary loot that can "farmed"<hr></blockquote>You don't think maybe, just maybe this is exactly WHY the loot is NOTRADE? To prevent you and others from farming it?Perhaps the devs actually WANT the people who are going to use the class gear to actually put forth the effort of going out and getting it, and not just buying it from a farmer on the broker?Go farm somewhere else.--Plague<hr></blockquote></blockquote>The point is that one does have to go farm somewhere else! And I'm sure you've never farmed, since there are oh so many other ways of getting money in the game. WHy would you mind anyway, they're instances, it's not like people would monopolize content.</div><p>Message Edited by LordSarig on <span class=date_text>01-26-2007</span> <span class=time_text>05:02 PM</span>

[rubels]

<P>Yea , that is my point. The content is great , solid loot except well its all no-trade. That basicly kills</P> <P>ever doing EoF instants. There is no point in doing them... yea I do want to earn cash and loot.</P> <P>I understand that the "best" items need to be No-Trade and im fine with that .... but there is really</P> <P>no other loot in EoF zones hence why whould I go. </P> <P>- Krov</P>

[Lanthiriel]

<DIV>Become a transmuter and get your transmuting skills up.  If you get a drop of something you already have, unequip it and transmute it on the spot.  This way, you get the new drop and have a powder or infusion to boot.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In fact, I believe this is precisely why there are so many more No-trade and Lore items in EoF, because these items can (and should) be transmuted.</DIV>

[Kardg]

<DIV>Unless of course your Auditor is adorned in which case your wasting an adornment to breakdown an item on the chance of getting a powder/infusion. Doesn't seem to beneficial to me. However the remainder of the "junk" (otherwise known as no-trade) can be transmuted.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I did this with my main and it does help significantly. Much nicer to get a 60g powder than a 14g vendor item.</DIV>

[sah]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lanthiriel wrote:<BR> <DIV>Become a transmuter and get your transmuting skills up.  If you get a drop of something you already have, unequip it and transmute it on the spot.  This way, you get the new drop and have a powder or infusion to boot.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In fact, I believe this is precisely why there are so many more No-trade and Lore items in EoF, because these items can (and should) be transmuted.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>The biggest problem with doing this is like that alot of people are going to adorn their items...also since the items are lore you need to be sure that you are going to win the item again after you transmute the one you already have...

[vladsamier]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zmobie wrote:<BR>Instance.<BR><BR>Their.<BR><BR>They're.<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Do you seriously troll these forums looking for spelling mistakes? This is the second or third time I have seen you do this. Get a life...</P> <P>On topic:<BR>I do not recall seeing any tradeable EoF loot from any instance thus far, and honestly I don't mind that one bit. Means that people actually have to get up off their butts and do the instances to get the rewards. (Unless of course, a guild is willing to sell looting rights to items not wanted.)</P><p>Message Edited by vladsamier on <span class=date_text>01-30-2007</span> <span class=time_text>03:24 PM</span>

[Zmobie]

Off Topic: to some people, a crooked painting on the wall drives them nuts. They have to make it straight. For me, it's poor use of their/they're/there. And other misspelling, especially when it is obvious that it's not a typo, but a general misunderstanding of the word, in this case "instant" instead of "instance".These forums are repositories of information. People who post here presumably want to to get information, or give information. When that information is full of innacurate words, it isn't useful.I'm sorry it bugs you that I point these out, but I'll continue to do so.On topic:I don't want to see the broker flooded with set gear, which is what would happen if the NOTRADE flag were remeoved. There tons and tons of places that you can farm for cash, and it's fairly obvious that the developers do not intend the EoF instances to be one of them, at least not for set gear.--Plague

[vladsamier]

<P>To have them tradeable will be dumb IMO, thinking they should make it where it only chooses a class from the raid and drops their armor or have some 'rare' (drops maybe 1/4th of the time) type of mold similar to relic so we dont see 34123747238947923 arms being transmuted. It definently seems that its picking classes not in the raid... Its gotten to the point where people are putting their AFK tags on to try and fool the system. O.o</P> <P>Sweet, so with Plague on the job, I'm back in my high school English class!!! I always wanted to learn the correct uses of their, they're and there, as well as the ability to use sentences with triple negatives. To see 100% correct grammar and spelling is definently why I come to these boards!!!!!!</P><p>Message Edited by vladsamier on <span class=date_text>01-30-2007</span> <span class=time_text>03:55 PM</span>

[rubels]

<P>Re. Plague</P> <P>I never asked for the removal of the no-trade flag (did you even read my post or just skip down ?) What im </P> <P>asking for is additional trade loot to be ADDED. The reason being is currently there is no point in anyone that</P> <P>has got there No-Trade loot to even step foot in the zones... I have all the class specific drops from the EoF</P> <P>zones. This also includes the earring , bracelet etc... so ah why waste my time. I once again am back to KOS</P> <P>zones that I have grinded for 6 fricken months ... why because I can at least sell stuff and make cash. </P> <P>- Krov</P>