MM Inner Sanctum - D'Litza Viswin Tips

[ArraSilverhawk]

<DIV>Hoping someone could provide a little advice on this encounter.  We clear the group of three with two mezzers in the hallway and pet pull back.  Battle goes fine until 5% when as most of you know that nasty AOE goes off.   No one dies due to the AOE but it still heals.  We've tried moving all the way back around the corner but it's still in range of the AOE.  We don't have four AOE blockers so was hoping others have some tips they may be willing to part with for doing it with less than four AOE blockers.  Looked at my parse and can't tell what exactly is healing it, whether it's the power drain is converted to health or just the damage done converted to health.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also tried the Tunare AOE block miracle.  It worked for about ten seconds instead of 30.  Must dispell with damage.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Any help would be appreciated.  Thank you.</DIV>

[Jayad]

You need lots of DPS.  Burn it hard.  Have everybody use their aoe blockers.

[ArraSilverhawk]

 If you don't have four group AOE blockers is that strategy still possible? 

[Gungo]

<P>OMG you just gave away the super leet hidden  Inner sanctum strat now everyone will be able to kill up to mayong. </P> <P>Edit: I am joking, but sadly the above statement is true. </P>

[t0iletduck]

At 6% have a brig dispatch the mob. Then unleash all your biggest attacks asap. Save manaburn, lifeburn, decap, sniper shot, harm touch, etc etc for the last 5%. If you have an Inquis, Verdict can come in very handy <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />The key is to burn it before he does the AE and heals. If you can't, you don't have enough DPS. <div></div>

[ArraSilverhawk]

Thank you.  It appears I was trying to finesse it more than I should have.  Churn and burn baby!

[Jayad]

well, I guess I won't give away everything, but we've done it with two bards. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[THteampink]

You need roughly 40,000 dps for the last 6 seconds of the fight.  After that point, you either *basically die* or win.<div></div>

[psubull]

You should probably work on your raid DPS and save a big burst for 5%.  If you can't get that kind of DPS, get two or three AE immunes.<div></div>

[DarkMirrax]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gungo wrote:<BR> <P>OMG you just gave away the super leet hidden  Inner sanctum strat now everyone will be able to kill up to mayong. </P> <P>Edit: I am joking, but sadly the above statement is true. </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>rofl

[theriatis]

<DIV>Hi,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>we had just 25k DPS in the last 7 seconds... but Boy, was this a sight.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>4 Wizards standing around D'Liszta Viswin and 4 synchronous Fusions ripping through</DIV> <DIV>the Body - and for a time, there was compassion for that poor creature.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And before you ask: "For a time ? How long ?" here's the answer:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>0.68 seconds. For a Vampire, that is nearly an eternity :smileyvery-happy:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Regards, Theriatis</DIV>

[Killerbee3000]

<div><blockquote><hr>DarkMirrax wrote: <blockquote> <hr> Gungo wrote: <div></div> <p>OMG you just gave away the super leet hidden  Inner sanctum strat now everyone will be able to kill up to mayong. </p> <p>Edit: I am joking, but sadly the above statement is true. </p> <hr> </blockquote>rofl<hr></blockquote>noone would have ever figured that out....... /sarcasm offits about as hard as figuring out what the crab in fd does at 10% lol.........</div>

[Caetrel]

His AOE is a lifetap, he heals himself about 1% for every person it hits.  The more AOE blocks you have up the less DPS you need to burn it down.  If you throw 4 blocks up it is comepletely trivial.  Watch your pets too.  You want just the MT to get hit, he heals only up to 6%, and dies quickly. <div></div>

[Dagator]

<P>I am not sure if we have the same encounter then.  This is what happens to us:  We had a nice 20k dps raid going, and fought this mob, and all was smooth as you can imagine until the 5% blow up, (actually one try he didn't blow up until 3% because of coercer stuns we think).  When he does that first aoe, do you have to eat it and then dps through it?  Cause if you eat it, he heals back to 15%.  Then 30 seconds later he does the AE again.  Keeping in mind if you eat that aoe, everyone is low on power.  I feel like I am missing something with this raid. </P> <P>It also seems like he has a mini ae's too, because my bards damage shield, (blade dance), would drop way less than 30 secs.  If you have your raid use the ethereal signets, that would block alot, but they seem to drop to the mini ae's too.  Also, those are lore and there are two mobs in that zone with this similar type of attack, so that makes them useless if that is the strat.  I don't want the raid zone handed to me, but I don't think I am getting your hints cause we are just not getting there.  I mean we have a very good raid force imo, obviously not the top, but we are able to put out 18k plus raids without much problem now.  So can anyone help enlighten me.  Thanks..</P>

[Pins]

Burn faster.

[Aandien]

<P>If you can't block the AE due to not the right set of classes or AA's -- and you don't use signets, then you simply have to kill him within 6 seconds of him hitting 5% health.  You need to do about 200k damage.  1 manaburn + 1 lifeburn will handle about 140k of the required damage -- verdict handles the rest.  If you don't have manaburn or lifeburn, then your other DPS classes will have to provide the appropriate amount of damage.</P>

[Killerbee3000]

<div><blockquote><hr>AncientElster wrote:<div></div> <p>If you can't block the AE due to not the right set of classes or AA's -- and you don't use signets, then you simply have to kill him within 6 seconds of him hitting 5% health.  You need to do about 200k damage.  1 manaburn + 1 lifeburn will handle about 140k of the required damage -- verdict handles the rest.  If you don't have manaburn or lifeburn, then your other DPS classes will have to provide the appropriate amount of damage.</p><hr></blockquote>coordination of big nukes ftw </div>

[ZababEW]

<DIV>We won it on second shot after a few change mob is way too easy for a lvl 75 mob in eof and we didnt have any bard and any ae blocker. Only thing we did is to be ready for the ae with ward and dps and the correct debuff in. Once ae is off its time to wake up and burn the mob down.I can tell u there is a very nice way to increase your dps for everyone against vampire. After that vampire fight are way easier.</DIV>

[Illustrious]

<DIV>Like everyone said just burn and debuff like mad at around 6% and with enough dps the ae wont even have time to go off. Get bards etc to cast bladedance at the same time however because if your dps is a little low at least you then get a second bite of the cherry, he will most likely be healed to about 22% or so but you have plenty time to then burn him down again. After the first AE that he casts a few secs after 5% then it seems on like a 30 or 40 sec timer and he will AE again (and i presume again for ever).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Have killed him b4 he AE at all and also with slacker dps have blocked/avoided the AE and killed him after he healed but b4 he AE again.</DIV>

[ArraSilverhawk]

<DIV>Thank you for the advice.  He went down like a brick. </DIV>

[Theivan01]

<DIV>the first time we ever killed him, something wierd happened and even though we had 4 AoE immunities, he still healed up to 15%.   We kept burning and he didnt do the AE again at 5%. so it definately has a reuse timer.</DIV>

[pagit21]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ArraSilverhawk wrote:<BR> Churn and burn baby!<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Are you making butter?</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>(Sry couldn't resist!)</P> <P> </P> <P>Might be helpful not to overburn till needed.  If people are wasting their high damage ca's on the road to 100-7% and running out of power because they are trying to win parse, is kind of counter productive.  Some guilds probably don't have to exercise restraint, but it may help you.</P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by pagit21 on <span class=date_text>01-26-2007</span> <span class=time_text>08:26 AM</span>

[Ragin_Goblin]

<P>I agree with pagit21. </P> <P>Our first time in (not knowing what to expect) we full burned from start to finish. Needless to say no one had a big hit up when the mob did its thing and therefore not enough dps. We figured out what was going on and waited for specials to come back up. It took us 2 more pulls but got the timing down on debuffs and big hits and dropped him. Our first parse was 4k higher than the one where we actually dropped him. It took us longer but we had the power and the big hits needed to drop him instantly as required.</P> <P><EM></EM> </P> <P> </P>

[Mr. Dawki]

<P>tip: hes stunnable and stiffleable</P> <P>hit him with a stun at 12% lay into him with everything you have</P> <P>If you have manaburn decap and lifeburns + dispatch. he should go from 12% to 0% in about 3 seconds, if 3 seconds is to short, stiffle him it will still prevent him from AEing</P>

[t0iletduck]

Stuns and Stifles don't last very long vs epics. The foruma is simple.  Burn him down or fail. 1. Use consistent DPS throughout the fight. Just need to do enough dps to get him down below 10% while still having mana left for the finish. Also need to save your big hits for the end. 2. At 7% have your brigand cast dispatch Dispatch. Cast group AE immunities if you have them. Have tank use rescue or reinforcement to help ensure agro isnt lost at the end and turns the mob. 3. At this point burn with all you have. SK's cast death march and use harm touch. Assassins decap and finishing blow. Rangers sniper shot, have a wizard manaburn and another fusion if you have more than one wizzie. Necro lifeburn etc etc. Also wouldnt hurt to have any non damage classes fire off miracles. 4. Have the Inquis cast verdict. Either he is dead, or he will AE everyone and heal. If you don't enough DPS for the burst at the end, you are out of luck. <div></div>

[valkyrja]

<div><blockquote><hr>theriatis wrote:<div>Hi,</div> <div> </div> <div>we had just 25k DPS in the last 7 seconds... but Boy, was this a sight.</div> <div> </div> <div>4 Wizards standing around D'Liszta Viswin and 4 synchronous Fusions ripping through</div> <div>the Body - and for a time, there was compassion for that poor creature.</div> <div> </div> <div>And before you ask: "For a time ? How long ?" here's the answer:</div> <div> </div> <div>0.68 seconds. For a Vampire, that is nearly an eternity :smileyvery-happy:</div> <div> </div> <div>Regards, Theriatis</div><hr></blockquote>If you have 4 raiding wizards, it would make your life easier if one of them had manaburn.</div>