Freethinkers, Debuffs, and the lag

[Dillin]

<DIV>So last night we finally took down the 2nd Vamp in Freethinkers and I noticed something as the healer assigned to spam trauma cure on the MT.  We had a second tank class close to the mob so both the MT and him were being hit by the debuff at the same time so I knew when it was going up.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>IMO, the lag from that zone is so bad that the MT was being hit for 4-6K chunks ever after I KNEW trauma was cured (He was calling out when it hit and would usually stop saying so mid sentence when it was cured).  If it happened once, OK, maybe it hit right before or whatever but it was almost everytime.  Has anyone else noticed this?  Dealing with lag, linkdeads, and random game errors that shuts down EQ2 is one thing, but when it effects the game experience, it's time to stop messing around with nerfs and balance issues and fix the game.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On a side note... the helmet (Helm of the Nightstalker) that dropped was the biggest piece of donkey dung I have seen so far in EoF.  It makes the Scalelord helmet look good still, and it's not exactly what I would call progression in regards to gear for EoF.  Please have a look at it.</DIV>

[psubull]

two solutions:1: don't go into freethinkers when 7 other guilds on your server are doing freethinkers.2: don't play eq2 on 56k.The lag in the zone is fine for everyone i've talked to.<div></div>

[Dillin]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P></P> <HR> <P>psubullet wrote:<BR>two solutions:<BR><BR>1: don't go into freethinkers when 7 other guilds on your server are doing freethinkers.</P> <P><FONT color=#ff0000>There are only 2 guilds on my server that are attemping this zone seriously</FONT><BR><BR>2: don't play eq2 on 56k.<BR></P> <P><FONT color=#ff0000>Yeeeeeah... I'm running a AMD Dual core, 2Gb DDR400 RAM, 7950 GX2, SB Fatal1ty sound, 2 Raptor Drives on raid, all sitting on a Fatal1ty AN8 and liquid cooled.  Inet is 6Mb Comcast cable.  Prior to EoF I rebuilt my HDDs so if there was ANY possibility of any Spy or Mal ware it would be gone.  For networking, I run a DLink Gamer Lounge.  This is my gaming PC, it does nothing but play EQ2.  You were saying?<BR></FONT><BR><BR>The lag in the zone is fine for everyone i've talked to.<BR></P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Try to be constructive.  If you haven't noticed lag, then just keep it to that, m'kay?<BR><p>Message Edited by Cybst0rm on <span class=date_text>12-11-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:07 PM</span>

[Pins]

Here's the solution, figure out that it's not a debuff, and you're a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn].

[Unnas]

I think the issue being adressed was not your machine but rather the machine of the person on cure duty...  I know even back in KoS lag could kill ya by missing a cure on a debilitate for too long before gearing up... back when it wasnt so trivial...Id suggest just making sure you have a good connection and a good player on the cure duty... but since you are saying that the tank is calling it and it getting cured before he finishes talking, maybe the lag is on the tank's side of the equation.  I personally havent noticed any great continuous lag, spikes on the otherhand.... wow... Also make sure people are parking the deity pets at zone in or away from fight, and can always turn off the cloak graphics, we got alot of new graphic rendering with EoF so maybe its just that.Octavio70th Templar of VindicateEverfrost<div></div>

[Dillin]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Unnas wrote:<BR>I think the issue being adressed was not your machine but rather the machine of the person on cure duty...  I know even back in KoS lag could kill ya by missing a cure on a debilitate for too long before gearing up... back when it wasnt so trivial...<BR><BR>Id suggest just making sure you have a good connection and a good player on the cure duty... but since you are saying that the tank is calling it and it getting cured before he finishes talking, maybe the lag is on the tank's side of the equation.  I personally havent noticed any great continuous lag, spikes on the otherhand.... wow... <BR><BR>Also make sure people are parking the deity pets at zone in or away from fight, and can always turn off the cloak graphics, we got alot of new graphic rendering with EoF so maybe its just that.<BR><BR>Octavio<BR>70th Templar of Vindicate<BR>Everfrost<BR><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I would think that the cure would be resolved on the server instead of client side?  What I'm saying is that I hit the cure, it's sent to the server.  Server says "OK, he's cured" and the Searing Rot does it's mitigated damage instead of unmitigated/debuffed damage.  Instead it looks like a good amount of the time the cure is showing up on the MT's client but the server isn't registering it.  </P> <P> </P> <P>And TY Cala for that insight.  We beat the encounter the other night and we have our strat down.</P>

[Computer MAn]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Cybst0rm wrote:<div></div><p>And TY Cala for that insight.  We beat the encounter the other night and we have our strat down.</p><hr></blockquote>I think Calagin's point is that although you beat the mob you have no clue what is going on and by saying its not a debuff is a huge hint. Just from reading what you are doing it seems you just beat it by luck as you are clueless about Searing Rot.</div><p>Message Edited by Computer MAn on <span class=date_text>12-11-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:13 PM</span>

[Pins]

<blockquote><hr>Computer MAn wrote:<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Cybst0rm wrote:<div></div><p>And TY Cala for that insight.  We beat the encounter the other night and we have our strat down.</p><hr></blockquote>I think Calagin's point is that although you beat the mob you have no clue what is going on and by saying its not a debuff is a huge hint. Just from reading what you are doing it seems you just beat it by luck as you are clueless about Searing Rot.</div><p>Message Edited by Computer MAn on <span class=date_text>12-11-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:13 PM</span><hr></blockquote>Searing Root is Treyloth, not Othyis!

[Computer MAn]

<div><blockquote><hr>Cybst0rm wrote:<div>So last night we finally took down the 2nd Vamp in Freethinkers.</div><hr></blockquote>Either I am reading this wrong or he is implying the 2nd Vampire or the 3rd named in Freethinkers total. He also talks in later posts about Searing Rot.</div>

[Dillin]

<DIV>Yes, Treyloth.  I originated the post while I was at work and didn't know his name.</DIV>

[Feltrak]

<DIV>So you actually beat this guy, and your strat revolved around chain curing the MT? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think maybe you guys should go try to kill the avatars, hint: Use a random strategy that doesn't apply to the encounter. You might get as lucky as you did on this kill and world first one.</DIV>

[Grozmok]

<div></div>Yeah, the finger pointer doesn't cast any debuffs. It's a nuke. And it's timeable.Get your MT to find out what's hitting him REALLY hard, every 30s. And time it.Also, a hint: the adds spawning are directly related to that nuke. And adds are completely avoidable.If you need more help, PM me.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Grozmok on <span class=date_text>12-12-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:13 PM</span>

[Dillin]

<P>/sigh</P> <P>This has nothing to do with strats...</P>

[Computer MAn]

<div><blockquote><hr>Cybst0rm wrote:<div></div> <p>/sigh</p> <p>This has nothing to do with strats...</p><hr></blockquote>Actually it has everything to do with the strat considering you are complaining about something that is completely the wrong idea for this mob. </div>

[Dillin]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Computer MAn wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cybst0rm wrote:<BR> <P>/sigh</P> <P>This has nothing to do with strats...</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Actually it has everything to do with the strat considering you are complaining about something that is completely the wrong idea for this mob. <BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>:smileyvery-happy: Yeah but most everyone is talking about the wrong mob.