Labs issue Dec2/06

[Langaan]

<DIV>We went into labs on fri and sat night.  Friday for trash, and saturday for a full run.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Fri night was our first time in since eof, and with 18 people in the raid, the trash seemed extremely easy, easier than pre-eof.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Then, Saturday, we went in with 22 people and the trash seemed more difficult.  (we think it was due to lack of scouts/debuffs etcc)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But the real problem we had was with the named.  We took alz down as usualy, although the fight seemed much too long, and it doesnt look like he has any more HP than he did before.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The doom trio was nasty.  The same thing kept happening over and over again...</DIV> <DIV>we pulled as we always do, and one of the mobs (wasnt always ravager) kept going straight to our summoners and killing them.</DIV> <DIV>It happened so many times, we tried testing it,,,  we had the summoner just stand there, not casting, no proc gear or buffs on, and still, dead on pull.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>anyone else had a similar issue?</DIV>

[Kel]

I think the issue is that your summoner was probably the first person in zone- Sometimes they go after the top of the list when nothing else is really aggro yet. <div></div>

[Jal]

We did labs friday and had 0 issues aside from the unlucky one shotting of our MT on the single Droag named before corsolander (whose name escapes me). Sounds pretty random like the memwipe happened as it sometimes does, did he have any procs on the MT?

[Langaan]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kel wrote:<BR>I think the issue is that your summoner was probably the first person in zone- Sometimes they go after the top of the list when nothing else is really aggro yet.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Nope, our tank always zones us.  And besdies that, this was happening to 2 summoners.  A conj and a necro.</P> <P>we had a second conj as well that disnt seem to be having the issue.</P>

[Langaan]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jalek wrote:<BR>We did labs friday and had 0 issues aside from the unlucky one shotting of our MT on the single Droag named before corsolander (whose name escapes me). <BR><BR>Sounds pretty random like the memwipe happened as it sometimes does, did he have any procs on the MT?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>no procs...</P> <P>and as far as mem wipe, it wasnt always the ravager aggroing the summoners, and afaik the ravager is the only one with mem wipe.  Even if all mobs now had mem wipe, it doesnt explain why they were going after these 2 every single time.</P>

[Kegofbud]

Defintiely sounds like the summoner was zone bugged. A lot of zones end up getting one specific person killed on pull. I have lost faith that they'll ever fix that.

[Jal]

Just curious did they have any deity pets out?I activated Vyemm on our raid and he came running at me but was actually aiming directly for someones sol ro deity pet theyd parked in the room, he then reset without killing anyone including me. Maybe the Sols eye pet bug has spread to raid zones?

[Langaan]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jalek wrote:<BR>Just curious did they have any deity pets out?<BR><BR>I activated Vyemm on our raid and he came running at me but was actually aiming directly for someones sol ro deity pet theyd parked in the room, he then reset without killing anyone including me. Maybe the Sols eye pet bug has spread to raid zones?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I recall one of our other conjy's suggesting this as well.  If i remember correctly, we had the conjy who kept getting killed remove their diety cloak, and Im pretty sure it made no difference...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Im not sure about the deity pet...</DIV>

[Kegofbud]

<DIV>Diety pets have caused problems a few times for us as well. I don't even use mine anymore. I've had mobs take off through the zone, up to the entrance to kill my pet, then come back to the raid. Why would that happen? It only gives a few strength. It makes no sense. Try having no diety pet up, if that doesn't work, maybe have that person /quit out and come back in after an encounter?</DIV>

[Lint26]

<P>There is definately an issue with the god pets, on wednesday in HoS we were body pulling Golems/Statues as usual but instead of going for the tank they would randomly run off and kill a god pet (didn't matter what group they were in) before coming back on a random person, not the one that owned the god pet.</P> <P>Strange things indeed.</P>

[Margen]

We always park our pets at the zone in, you still get the stats but the pets don't get eaten by AOEs and also what seems to be an agro bug.

[Starness]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Langaan wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kel wrote:<BR>I think the issue is that your summoner was probably the first person in zone- Sometimes they go after the top of the list when nothing else is really aggro yet.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Nope, our tank always zones us.  And besdies that, this was happening to 2 summoners.  A conj and a necro.</P> <P>we had a second conj as well that disnt seem to be having the issue.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>It's not who zones you in, it who get's done loading the zone first. So if the Summoner had a fast computer or happened to load in before anyone else in the raid by chance then you could have been seeing the effect Kel describes. This used to happen in my old guild all the time with our Mystic (yes we had tested it with no buffs etc etc). He had a fast computer and would always zone in first.<BR>

[Langaan]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Starness wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Langaan wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kel wrote:<BR>I think the issue is that your summoner was probably the first person in zone- Sometimes they go after the top of the list when nothing else is really aggro yet.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Nope, our tank always zones us.  And besdies that, this was happening to 2 summoners.  A conj and a necro.</P> <P>we had a second conj as well that disnt seem to be having the issue.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>It's not who zones you in, it who get's done loading the zone first. So if the Summoner had a fast computer or happened to load in before anyone else in the raid by chance then you could have been seeing the effect Kel describes. This used to happen in my old guild all the time with our Mystic (yes we had tested it with no buffs etc etc). He had a fast computer and would always zone in first.<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>ok, good to know.  but at any rate, that is still not the issue then cause one of the summoners that was being aggroed was late, hence there was about 20 people in the zone before him.</P> <P> </P> <P>looks as though its the deity thing to me, atleast I hope it is as its an easy thing to deal with.</P>

[Solu]

My guild cleared labs this last sunday with 0 problems.  However, I can confirm some sort of bug with diety pets as we also did a T6 raid in gates for fun a couple days before and I parked my pets at zone in.  Just about every named we pulled went for the pets at zone in then came back to the raid. Oh and I am a wizard using the sol ro diety pet and the aa pet.