Lesser/Greater Faydark have both terrible Maps

[Soldancer]

This is what a lot of players told me:They are very frustrated with EoF because they can't find their way espacially in this two zones - both are confusing labyrinths - in the night these players are totally lost.The ingame maps aren't a help, too few details to see where the ways are. SOE, please rework this maps so that players can find their way and do not frustrated logout after 30 min like they do now.

[Killerbee3000]

do you know about the horses in lfay?if not...there are horses in lfay in several locations that allow you to travel without getting lost.... just hail every stable master in the zone...as for gfay... well, learning the layout of one zone is asking too much?<div></div>

[killahsin]

<DIV>they dont have terrible maps they ahve aamazing use of dimensions in the level design which in itself makes it very hard to even design a map for since the map would have to consistantly switch like a floor map. Once you learn the layout you can get anywhere very very quickle as there are a ton of shortcuts.</DIV>

[Karlen]

I have to say that I have trouble finding my way around GF still, but have learned to cut through the town which often makes travel a bit simpler.In LF, although at first it was confusing, you quickly learn where the shortcuts are, especially if you work through the various quest series in the zone.  It is particularly important to remember that you CAN jump off a horse before it gets to its destination.<div></div>

[Kyriel]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Soldancer wrote:<BR>This is what a lot of players told me:<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Have you tried them for yourself? </P> <P> </P> <P>The maps are great.  You should be grateful at least they HAVE a map. If i was your mom, if you kept complaining i would take the map away from you completely!! so there! Be grateful for what you get, even if in your eyes its little. </P> <P>If you still aren't satisfied, try <A href="http://www.eq2interface.com" target=_blank>www.eq2interface.com</A><BR></P>

[Illustrious]

<P>I agree, some of the new zones are just a pain to find your way around. Seems like no good reason to make it as complicated and although its not such a big deal it is still annoying when you want to go somewhere in a hurry and it takes you 5-10 mins to get to the correct zone line.</P> <P> </P> <P>I cant think of any zone pre EoF that is so annoying as GFD</P>

[Magic]

I'd be satisfied if they'd add a zoom feature to the in-game map.

[PhroZenAssassin]

Heh, if you think they're terrible, go see Emerald Halls <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Getting ganked by epics is fun <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[KBern]

<DIV>ROFL</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Make a nice zone layout, and it is too complicated...make it a flat square then it is too simple and no design went into it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Explore and learn your way around, it really is not rocket science to get around these zones, people whine about everything now adays.</DIV>

[Scow]

Anyone else having issues with eq2maps where the points of intrest and stuff when you scroll over them dont show anything?<p>Message Edited by Scowiii on <span class=date_text>11-29-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:28 AM</span>

[Majorminor]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Illustrious wrote:<BR> <P> </P> <P>I cant think of any zone pre EoF that is so annoying as GFD</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I hated Nek Forest when I first started going there, all those One way paths, that On the map, look like they go through, but there's a big mountian in the way hehe.  </P> <P>But, after a few runs through the zone, ya pick up were to go and were to Not go /shrug.</P>

[EnchanterB]

<div><blockquote><hr>Illustrious wrote:<div></div> <p> I cant think of any zone pre EoF that is so annoying as GFD</p><hr></blockquote><font color="#ccccff">Feerrott.</font></div>

[KBern]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> EnchanterB wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Illustrious wrote:<BR> <P><BR>I cant think of any zone pre EoF that is so annoying as GFD</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><FONT color=#ccccff>Feerrott.</FONT><BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Nektulos Forest and Lavastorm.<BR><p>Message Edited by KBern on <span class=date_text>11-29-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:17 PM</span>

[Mgunner]

<P>I have to agree. Greater Faydark is a bit confusing. I'm not concerned, I'm level 70 and I can run around and explore all day long to learn my way around. I think it's hard as hell to figure out for new toons. My girlfriend just started playing for the very first time and is having a rough go at navigating. For a player that is trying to figure out ASDW movement keys, the map is confusing.</P> <P>Imagine being a newb, and being asked to join a crushbone group.  </P> <P>What I would suggest is making higher elevations a different in color. Maybe outline the unclimbable walls with red.</P> <P>Remember, it's much easier to learn the paths when everything is grey and not trying to eat you. </P>

[EQ2Playa432]

<div><blockquote><hr>Scowiii wrote:<div></div> <div></div>Anyone else having issues with eq2maps where the points of intrest and stuff when you scroll over them dont show anything?<p>Message Edited by Scowiii on <span class="date_text">11-29-2006</span> <span class="time_text">11:28 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>having the same problem.</div>

[Asharad]

We gamers are a fickle bunch. <div></div>

[StevusX]

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Scowiii wrote:<BR> Anyone else having issues with eq2maps where the points of intrest and stuff when you scroll over them dont show anything? <P>Message Edited by Scowiii on <SPAN class=date_text>11-29-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>11:28 AM</SPAN><BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>having the same problem.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG>ME TOO</STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG>but only on certain maps</STRONG></DIV>

[Atmosphear1993]

<P>You'd be surprised how much you can memorize if you don't use a map.  In the case for L.Fay/G.fay, the maps might not be as helpful as other zones in the game, but at least they give a general direction for you to head in.  Then its simply memorizing the twisting and turning paths to get to your destination (which are not all that complicated in the first place.)</P> <P> </P>

[EnchanterB]

<div><blockquote><hr>Atmosphear1993 wrote:<p>You'd be surprised how much you can memorize if you don't use a map.  In the case for L.Fay/G.fay, the maps might not be as helpful as other zones in the game, but at least they give a general direction for you to head in.  Then its simply memorizing the twisting and turning paths to get to your destination (which are not all that complicated in the first place.)</p> <hr></blockquote><font color="#ccccff">You have a very good point. It's the map that makes things all the more frustrating. You see the point you want to go to, but all these walls, trees, and rivers keep getting in the way. </font><font color="#ccccff"></font><font color="#ccccff"></font><font color="#ccccff">It's far better just to spend time in the zone running around. That's how Feerrott and I finally made our peace.</font></div>

[Magic]

<P>I agree on many points.  I use maps to point myself in the general direction of my destination but no longer bother using them to decide my path.  I've been almost everywhere in GFay and know my way around without help from the map now.  The Crushbone Keep map is a different animal since it uncovers the fog on the levels above and below you as you go along on one level/floor.  If I spend a lot of time climbing up and down stairs, I'll eventually lose track of which rooms I've explored and which rooms still need to be.</P> <P>When I first started exploring GFay, I walked along the walls and cliffs in order to uncover all of the fog in my map.  Oddly, that didn't work as expected.  There were several areas that I couldn't reach that way.  Then one day I decided to walk the paths and then came upon a few hollow log bridges that take me to places that I couldn't reach without them.  Had I joined a group in those early stages, I'd have been lost trying to get back to the group had I died.  So I make it a point never to group when I don't know the zone well enough.</P> <P>I get pleasure from exploration and I try to do as much of that as I can.  The map, being somewhat vague, forces me to find my way around.  I learn the zone eventually, after many trips and ending up in the wrong places.</P> <P>So yes, I wish the maps were better, but will live with them as they are because I'll eventually learn the zones and not need them.  I need them most when I enter the zone for the first time.</P>

[woolf2k]

GFay and LFay RULE!it is advantages for the fae though since they have soft fall....I love jumpin all those cliffs... as for other races. oh well! get used finding the climbable walls or ramps. As for the streams.. also advantages to the fae with Glide... woohoo! I jump over them with ease... Other races? get used looking for the vine or bridge that go over them.<div></div>

[Gaj]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Scowiii wrote:<BR> Anyone else having issues with eq2maps where the points of intrest and stuff when you scroll over them dont show anything? <P>Message Edited by Scowiii on <SPAN class=date_text>11-29-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>11:28 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Had this problem, deleted the entire contents of the EQ2Map folder, (including the Fetish Minimap plugin, which doesn't work anymore). Allowed the Auto-updater to run and refill the folder, all works fine now.</P> <P> </P> <P>EDIT: I was also having problems of POI's not clearing when I zone, resulting in POI's for 2 or more zones being displayed, this has been fixed too.</P><p>Message Edited by Gajet on <span class=date_text>12-01-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:44 PM</span>

[EnchanterB]

<div><blockquote><hr>woolf2k wrote:GFay and LFay RULE!it is advantages for the fae though since they have soft fall....I love jumpin all those cliffs... as for other races. oh well! get used finding the climbable walls or ramps. As for the streams.. also advantages to the fae with Glide... woohoo! I jump over them with ease... Other races? get used looking for the vine or bridge that go over them.<div></div><hr></blockquote><font color="#ccccff">Any race can have the same advantage.</font><font color="#ccccff"></font><font color="#ccccff"></font><font color="#ccccff">Tinkered Parachute = Fae Fall</font><font color="#ccccff"></font><font color="#ccccff">Tinkered Gnomish Stilts = Fae Glide</font><font color="#ccccff"></font><font color="#ccccff"></font><font color="#ccccff">^_^</font></div>

[Morgul]

<div><blockquote><hr>Scowiii wrote:<div></div> <div></div>Anyone else having issues with eq2maps where the points of intrest and stuff when you scroll over them dont show anything?<p>Message Edited by Scowiii on <span class="date_text">11-29-2006</span> <span class="time_text">11:28 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>turn off Map Fog and it'll start working again.</div>