How many people play Everquest 2?

[doombringer]

<DIV>I mean i play both WOW and EQ2 and i always hear "WOW has 7 million subscribers"</DIV> <DIV>How many does EQ2 have? Ive never heard exactly or roughly how many.</DIV>

[Zhakr]

<div></div><div></div><p>Message Edited by Zhakrin on <span class=date_text>10-17-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:21 PM</span>

[Cele]

www.eq2census.com

[Themaginator]

<div></div>2017923 WOW nice!84018 on my server yay<div></div><p>Message Edited by Themaginator on <span class=date_text>10-17-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:40 PM</span>

[Fortai]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Themaginator wrote:<div></div>2017923 WOW nice!84018 on my server yay<div></div><p>Message Edited by Themaginator on <span class="date_text">10-17-2006</span> <span class="time_text">07:40 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Unfortunately that number is the number of characters, not subscribers.  A subscriber can have up to 10 characters, and characters that I had, and deleted months and months ago, are still on there and counted, (a level 12 wizard I delted early this year, is still on there), so in theory more than 10 per subscriber could be counted.  So it doesn't seem accurate.</div><p>Message Edited by liquidsol on <span class=date_text>10-17-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:32 PM</span>

[Mirdo]

<P>That's characters, not players. I have 12 characters spread across 2 servers but am only one player. I know a number of people that two or 3 box and have full accounts of characters. It doesn't really give a very good idea of how many 'players' there are in Q2.</P> <P>Mirdo.</P> <P><Edit> Sorry, was typing reply as Liquid responded.</P><p>Message Edited by Mirdo on <span class=date_text>10-18-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:32 AM</span>

[Dae Draug]

Well, i have 4 characters on 1 account but i also am counted as one of those 7Million WoW subscribers since i bought that game and couldnt be bothered playing after the first "free" month. We all know alot of asian ppl bought WoW and never bother to play either so we never know how many truely play that game. The question is does it bother ya weither theres 5k or 100k on your server? so far i have no complaints about the number of players

[Rassstil]

<DIV>Last updated in June 2006, but it might give you an idea.</DIV> <DIV><A href="http://www.mmogchart.com/" target=_blank>http://www.mmogchart.com/</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Themaginator]

nah its actually way off <div></div>

[Scort]

Actual active accounts is around 175k, down from around 350k peak around May of last year.EQ had at one point around 550k but, it droppped to around 200k now. WoW took a big chunck out of it, along with other games. http://www.mmogchart.comhttp://www.mmogchart.com/Analysis.html<p>Message Edited by Scortch on <span class=date_text>10-18-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:04 PM</span>

[Chog]

<DIV>I counted to as high as I could without the help of a computer and I can definatly say more then 10.</DIV>

[thesilverf]

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Scortch wrote:<BR>Actual active accounts is around 175k, down from around 350k peak around May of last year.<BR><BR>EQ had at one point around 550k but, it droppped to around 200k now. WoW took a big chunck out of it, along with other games. <BR><BR>http://www.mmogchart.com<BR>http://www.mmogchart.com/Analysis.html <P>  <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>That website may even be right, however you are citing a source that is flat out unfounded.  </P> <P>Actual Quotes from this site...</P> <P><EM>"Almost all of the data I use comes from actual sources"</EM><BR><EM>"...often those sources are insiders who only give the information on the condition of anonymity"</EM></P> <P><EM>"As of May 2006, <STRONG>inside</STRONG> sources indicate the game has approximately 175,000 total subscribers. "</EM></P> <P> </P>

[Vicio]

I last <u>official</u> source I read was 500,000+ However that was a while ago as someone already pointed out. I also doubt there are many new subscribers either. There will be an increase as the expansion is released however I don't think the starter zones will be as cramped as DoF was when released. It would be nice to hear from SOE about the current number of subsciptions and the current number of people on each server. Would help to figure out where I want to group. <div></div>

[Scort]

<blockquote><hr>Vicious wrote:I last <u>official</u> source I read was 500,000+However that was a while ago as someone already pointed out. I alsodoubt there are many new subscribers either. There will be an increaseas the expansion is released however I don't think the starter zoneswill be as cramped as DoF was when released.It would be nice to hear from SOE about the current number ofsubsciptions and the current number of people on each server. Wouldhelp to figure out where I want to group. <div></div><hr></blockquote>That was for EQ1 or EQ or EQLive or whatever people call it now.EQ2 NEVER EVER reached that high. Not even close.There may be a SLIGHT increase in accounts as people reactivate their cancelled accounts to see if the xpak is any good but, I really doubt it will draw in a ton of new people. Most of the content is for low levels and most people that left are high end (at least all the ones I have known and seen and heard about, as that is where most of the problems with the game are).They won't draw in enough people to make up for the losses in the last year. Not even close.That web site hasa been extremely accurate over the years. A LOT more accurate than anything i have seen from anyone else. I trust their numbers. Even if they are off by a few thousand, that's still a HUGE drop in accounts in the last year.Why do you think they cut their server numbers in half and merged them all? There wasn't enough people on each server to warrant keeping that many going.<p>Message Edited by Scortch on <span class=date_text>10-19-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:01 PM</span>

[menelaus109]

<div></div><div></div>Across all games SOE has around 680'000 subscribersSo 175'000 EQ2 Subscribers seems about right, the actual number might be slightly higher as i dont think Station Pass accounts are included in that (read it somewhere)<div></div><p>Message Edited by menelaus109 on <span class="date_text">10-20-2006</span> <span class="time_text">02:46 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by menelaus109 on <span class=date_text>10-20-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:57 PM</span>

[StoneySilen]

About a year ago a SOE Dev stated there were approx 50k Station Access accounts.

[Kirico]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> menelaus109 wrote:<BR> Across all games SOE has around 680'000 subscribers<BR><BR>So 175'000 EQ2 Subscribers seems about right, the actual number might be slightly higher as i dont think Station Pass accounts are included in that (read it somewhere)<BR><BR> <P>Message Edited by menelaus109 on <SPAN class=date_text>10-20-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>02:46 PM</SPAN></P> <P>Message Edited by menelaus109 on <SPAN class=date_text>10-20-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>02:57 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Actually, I believe station access accounts are counted if the station access account has access to EQ2.  Even if you have station access you still have to buy the original game before you can play.

[Dema]

<DIV>Isn't the word subscriptions better than subscribers?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lots of people with multiple accounts.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Kind of like someone saying they have 1 million customers, when they really had 1 million transactions.</DIV>

[Terabethia]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Demano wrote:<BR> <DIV>Isn't the word subscriptions better than subscribers?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lots of people with multiple accounts.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Kind of like someone saying they have 1 million customers, when they really had 1 million transactions.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR><FONT color=#33ccff>Well... I am a subscriber with 2 subscritions.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#33ccff>It's pretty easy to count the number of open accounts. It's a lot harder to go over that list and group together all of the accounts that are from the same person. And if one little thing is off, it's next to impossible. Such as one saying John Doe, and the second saying John D. Doe. </FONT></P>

[Illmarr]

<DIV>I see threads like this all the time here and on the original EQ boards, and I just have to wonder...What does it matter really? There are enough subscribers to keep the game healthy. People "win" it and leave, people level up and take their place. A new all-inclusive expansion like EoF in theroy will bring in a bunch of first time buyers, so it's pretty important that at least the low level experience in it is relatively bug free and user intuitive. If you're enjoying yourself playing EQ, EQ2, SWG, WoW, D&D, AC, whatever....what does it matter how many people are playing different games as long as the game you are playing is not in imminent danger of shutting down?</DIV>

[KnightOfTheWo]

<div><blockquote><hr>Illmarr wrote:<div>I see threads like this all the time here and on the original EQ boards, and I just have to wonder...What does it matter really? There are enough subscribers to keep the game healthy. People "win" it and leave, people level up and take their place. A new all-inclusive expansion like EoF in theroy will bring in a bunch of first time buyers, so it's pretty important that at least the low level experience in it is relatively bug free and user intuitive. If you're enjoying yourself playing EQ, EQ2, SWG, WoW, D&D, AC, whatever....what does it matter how many people are playing different games as long as the game you are playing is not in imminent danger of shutting down?</div><hr></blockquote>QFE (Quoted for Emphasis)I guess the main counterpoint to this would be, players often worry if the subscriber numbers drop too low, the game will shut down.I say it's a matter of perspective. If the game shuts down, it's still no great loss to (universal, not the poster above) you: you played the game for X number of years or months and had fun playing (or didn't.) Maybe you joined a guild, which may have to look for a new home. Even so...so what? Those of us who have been w/ EQ2 from the beginning and enjoyed it have already had 2 years of good value for our entertainment dollars. The MMO market has a huge number of choices right  now, individuals and guilds can, in the event of a game dying, move on to probably a pretty good alternative. If you are just a solo person, same argument. Enjoy the game for what it can provide. If it goes away, the only ones really hurt in the pocketbook are the SOE employees who support the game. You can just subscribe to something else. Anyway...I'm with the quoted poster above. <span>:smileyhappy:</span></div>

[Conequis]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Demano wrote:<BR> <DIV>Isn't the word subscriptions better than subscribers?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lots of people with multiple accounts.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Kind of like someone saying they have 1 million customers, when they really had 1 million transactions.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Yes, but as far as Sony is concerned one subscription is one customer and they are right in that regard if you look at profits.  It makes no difference if one person buys two copies at $35 a piece or whether two people each buy one at $35 a piece.  They still make $70.</P> <P>They are in the business of selling subscriptions.<BR></P>

[Eybietie]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> doombringer27 wrote:<BR> <DIV>I mean i play both WOW and EQ2 and i always hear "WOW has 7 million subscribers"</DIV> <DIV>How many does EQ2 have? Ive never heard exactly or roughly how many.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P> </P> <P><FONT color=#33ccff>uk pvp server darathar has 12 players.<BR>german pvp server talendor has 8 players.<BR>french pvp server gorenaire has 2 players which actually accidently hit the wrong char to log in.</FONT></P> <P><BR> </P><p>Message Edited by Eybietie on <span class=date_text>11-08-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:13 AM</span>

[Maroger]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> doombringer27 wrote:<BR> <DIV>I mean i play both WOW and EQ2 and i always hear "WOW has 7 million subscribers"</DIV> <DIV>How many does EQ2 have? Ive never heard exactly or roughly how many.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>But don't forget that all those subscribers for WoW are not paying $15.99 or whatever the monthly fee is here in the US and Euorpe. I have read that the bulk of those subscribers are in China, Korea, and other Far Easterns location.</P> <P>Those in China and other Far East locations probably don't pay as much as $1.00 a month. I saw recently that the Blizzard's China Partner who puts the game out in China declared a loss and may file for bankruptcy.</P> <P>So in terms of actually dollar amounts the 7 millions may not translate into as much money as you might think.</P> <P><BR> </P>

[Scort]

<DIV>Everything you just said is guess work and no facts at all.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I guarantee the majority of the 7 mil pay.</DIV>

[Khurghan]

<blockquote><hr>Maroger wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> doombringer27 wrote: <div>I mean i play both WOW and EQ2 and i always hear "WOW has 7 million subscribers"</div> <div>How many does EQ2 have? Ive never heard exactly or roughly how many.</div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>But don't forget that all those subscribers for WoW are not paying $15.99 or whatever the monthly fee is here in the US and Euorpe. I have read that the bulk of those subscribers are in China, Korea, and other Far Easterns location.</p> <p>Those in China and other Far East locations probably don't pay as much as $1.00 a month. I saw recently that the Blizzard's China Partner who puts the game out in China declared a loss and may file for bankruptcy.</p> <p>So in terms of actually dollar amounts the 7 millions may not translate into as much money as you might think.</p> <hr></blockquote><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2006/09/17/ccblizz17.xml" target=_blank>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2006/09/17/ccblizz17.xml</a>I don't think Blizzard are going to be hurting for cash anytime soon.