Doom Trio strategy + more

[MrMartin]

<DIV>Hello all!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I would like to get some help on how to kill The Doom trio on first pull. A solid strategy to do it regulary.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>First I should tell you that we have no trouble at all killing The Slavering Alzid, Doomwright and Pardas Predd on first pull, we usually skip The Uncaged Alzid, mainly because we have had some trouble with him (adds get stuck on MT instead of getting pulled off when ST taunts) and we wanted to progress in the zone and see more nameds. (Managed to get up to The Corsolander last time and got him to 18%)<BR>The 2 times we have tried Uustalastus Xiterrax he has been killed on first pull. (Like stealing candy from a baby <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Back to Doom Trio.</DIV> <DIV>We used to have one tank (me) pull all three of them but that usually took 4-5 wipes before we could kill em. But that was before we had a solid off-tank.<BR>We don't pull em in the room they are standing, we pull em trough the hall-way with an Assassin using Surveilance on the Reaver to the room before the hallway. Then the Off-tank Rescues the Ravager and the MT group taunts the Prophet and Reaver.<BR>Off-tank has 3 healers and MT has 3 healers.<BR>We try to burn down the Ravager asap (which usually leads to some aggro-issues) then the Prophet and last the Reaver.<BR>So far we have never managed this tactics on the first pull. It usually takes 2-3 pulls because the MT dies. Sometimes it's because the group taunt gets resisted on one mob and they go for healers instead.</DIV> <DIV>The tanks may be a bit undergeared (MT in full legendary with fabled greaves) because we have been VERY unlucky with plate drops. (Not a single plate relic in 1.5 months)</DIV> <DIV>Anyone got a solid strategy on how to kill these guys on first pull every time?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also another question.<BR>2 days ago was the first time we ever encountered The Corsolander. Is it normal that he goes berserk on the raid even when we haven't pulled him yet? It's really bad for our armor condition. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR>And another queston on The Corsolander, should the MT melee or not?</DIV>

[Noaani]

<FONT color=#ffff00></FONT><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MrMartin wrote:<BR> <DIV>Hello all!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I would like to get some help on how to kill The Doom trio on first pull. A solid strategy to do it regulary.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>First I should tell you that we have no trouble at all killing The Slavering Alzid, Doomwright and Pardas Predd on first pull, we usually skip The Uncaged Alzid, mainly because we have had some trouble with him (adds get stuck on MT instead of getting pulled off when ST taunts) </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>(dont worry about actually tanking the adds for this guy, just have all your DPS target through an MA, and thave them ALL max burn the adds as soon as they pop, easy enough fight this way)</FONT></DIV> <DIV>and we wanted to progress in the zone and see more nameds. (Managed to get up to The Corsolander last time and got him to 18%)<BR>The 2 times we have tried Uustalastus Xiterrax he has been killed on first pull. (Like stealing candy from a baby <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Back to Doom Trio.</DIV> <DIV>We used to have one tank (me) pull all three of them but that usually took 4-5 wipes before we could kill em. But that was before we had a solid off-tank.</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>(hard to solo tank these guys until you are fully fabled)</FONT><BR>We don't pull em in the room they are standing, we pull em trough the hall-way with an Assassin using Surveilance on the Reaver to the room before the hallway. Then the Off-tank Rescues the Ravager and the MT group taunts the Prophet and Reaver. <FONT color=#ffff00>(i assume you are seperating these 2 groups enough to be out of AE and heal range)<BR></FONT>Off-tank has 3 healers and MT has 3 healers.<BR>We try to burn down the Ravager asap (which usually leads to some aggro-issues) then the Prophet and last the Reaver.<BR>So far we have never managed this tactics on the first pull. It usually takes 2-3 pulls because the MT dies. Sometimes it's because the group taunt gets resisted on one mob and they go for healers instead. <FONT color=#ffff00>(have your healers ready to cast their detaunt if any of those three get in range of them, all healers get one)</FONT></DIV> <DIV>The tanks may be a bit undergeared (MT in full legendary with fabled greaves) because we have been VERY unlucky with plate drops. (Not a single plate relic in 1.5 months)</DIV> <DIV>Anyone got a solid strategy on how to kill these guys on first pull every time?</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>(your strat is close enough to what both guilds i have done this fight in have used, it will work, and you will get better at it. A little better gear on your tanks, master taunts and practice and you will be doing these guys on the first pull)</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also another question.<BR>2 days ago was the first time we ever encountered The Corsolander. Is it normal that he goes berserk on the raid even when we haven't pulled him yet? It's really bad for our armor condition. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <FONT color=#ffff00>Not that I have ever seen</FONT> <BR>And another queston on The Corsolander, should the MT melee or not? <FONT color=#ffff00>We do with our zerker, dont with our guardian, up to you really</FONT></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>

[Malhabbock]

Not a bad stragegy all told. Reaver does memwipe which would explain some of the agro issues. Gear and raid experience will, of course, make a difference. We single tank the whole group.Never had Corsolander issues. Whether or not the tank should attack depends on healer power really. Just communicate to the raid if the MT is attacking or not so they know how much damage they can push out without drawing agro. Slow and steady (and MT hate buffs) wins the race....and don't skip Azlid, he drops the fun hats.

[Hamervelder]

Seems like a prett solid strategy.  You just have to get that horrid timebomb dot off of your raid that he casts.  As for Corsolander, I've seen him agro people before they even set foot into the huge room that you have to cross to get to him.  Sometimes he agroes like that.  I've also seen him reset in the middle of a fight.  Total health regen, memwipe, etc.<div></div>

[MrMartin]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Malhabbock wrote:<BR>...and don't skip Azlid, he drops the fun hats.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>We have decided to skip the Uncaged Alzid until we have seen and maybe tried Lord Vyemm. Only two more nameds to go.<BR>We have a good strategy for The Corsolander now but all our armor was broken before we could execute it last time.<BR>And I hear the eyeball before Vyemm is very easy?<BR>After that The Uncaged Alzid is going down! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>The Corsolander sent out some msg about coming to life(?) and then he attacked our raid without us even being in aggro range or pulling. Happened 2-4 times and that is what kept us from having enough armor left to kill him.<BR>We got him down to 18% when the healers went OOP. We never realised the fight would last so long so it was to late to feed the healers power.<BR>Next time we will make sure all healers have heart+essences and use all their FT gear and manastone from the beginning. Will also use both Bard and Chanter in MT group. Will also tell the melee DPS to go in and do some big hits (Decapitate for example) to help the Mages.<BR>Then he will be walk in the park. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></P>

[Antipalad]

Overly complicated strategy in my opinion. Have someone observe the pull on the Doom trio, and you'll see how it can be made much easier.As for Uncaged Alzid, why bother pulling the blobs off the MT in the first place? Have an MA target the blobs and burn them, they have very little hp.Edit to add that we use one tank on Doom trio, 2 tanks tend to complicate it further.<p>Message Edited by Antipaladin on <span class=date_text>10-12-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:34 AM</span>

[MrMartin]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Antipaladin wrote:<BR>Overly complicated strategy in my opinion. Have someone observe the pull on the Doom trio, and you'll see how it can be made much easier.<BR><BR>As for Uncaged Alzid, why bother pulling the blobs off the MT in the first place? Have an MA target the blobs and burn them, they have very little hp.<BR><FONT color=#ffff00>Because the melee DPS doesn't like to get hit by his crushing AOE? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR>But we will try it that way. Managed to get him down to 50% once but then the MA stopped targeting the blobs cause her /target macro somehow stopped working.</FONT><BR><BR>Edit to add that we use one tank on Doom trio, 2 tanks tend to complicate it further. <FONT color=#ffff00>We have tried that but I don't think my gear is good enough to take on all three of them right now. As I said in a previous post, we have been very unlucky with plate drops. Not seen a single plate relic in 1.5 months even when we have done Labs every week and some parts of Lyceum 2 times.<BR>You can see the gear I'm wearing here:<BR><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=418593204" target=_blank>http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=418593204</A></FONT><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>

[Soul_Dreamer]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MrMartin wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P></P> <HR> <P>Antipaladin wrote:<BR>Overly complicated strategy in my opinion. Have someone observe the pull on the Doom trio, and you'll see how it can be made much easier.<BR><BR>As for Uncaged Alzid, why bother pulling the blobs off the MT in the first place? Have an MA target the blobs and burn them, they have very little hp.<BR><FONT color=#ffff00>Because the melee DPS doesn't like to get hit by his crushing AOE? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></FONT><FONT color=#ff3300>Joust it then, but that AOE really doesn't hit very hard especially if your Debuffers are doing their jobs.</FONT><FONT color=#ffff00><BR>But we will try it that way. Managed to get him down to 50% once but then the MA stopped targeting the blobs cause her /target macro somehow stopped working.<BR></FONT><FONT color=#ff0000>There really is no need for a macro on this fight, just have your MA spam the Tab key, as soon as a blob pops it will be targetted (Get MA to stop spamming Tab) and as soon as it is dead the MA can Tab onto the Named and continue to spam Tab <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR>We always leave a Brigand and whatever extra fighters we have on the named, they really make no difference to how fast the blobs go down.<BR>Make sure your wizards don't waste any power using their cold based spells, the Blobs are highly resistant.</FONT><BR><BR>Edit to add that we use one tank on Doom trio, 2 tanks tend to complicate it further. <FONT color=#ffff00>We have tried that but I don't think my gear is good enough to take on all three of them right now. As I said in a previous post, we have been very unlucky with plate drops. Not seen a single plate relic in 1.5 months even when we have done Labs every week and some parts of Lyceum 2 times.<BR>You can see the gear I'm wearing here:<BR><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=418593204" target=_blank>http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=418593204</A><BR></FONT><FONT color=#ff0000>What your wearing should be enough, honestly. Make sure you kill Doom Ravager Ru'ystad first, he is a scout type mob (Brigand I think) and Memwipes very frequently, he also has the delabitate debuff. As soon as this one is dead the other 2 are really easy.<BR>Our method below...<BR><FONT color=#000000>We have a Cong Planeshifted, Bolstered pet do the pull and One tank catch all 3, MA is on Doom Ravager Ru'ystad and we burn him down as fast as possible while all tanks are taunting to combat the memwipe.<BR>We used to have a healer On cure duty because of the Debuff but it never seems as bad now a days. As soon as he is dead we drop the Reaver then the Prophet.<BR>If you make sure everyone has the resists for the AOE's then it isn't that bad and you can easily eat it and heal through.</FONT><BR><BR>Using more than 1 tank on this really over complicates things, we tried it the first couple of times, then decided to use 1 tank and have done it that way ever since. </FONT><BR></P> <P></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>The Corsolander comes alive when you pass a certain spot of that room (Just before the last set of pillars). You can tell when he is active to when he isn't because when he is he has the Symbol for his Damage shield in the buffs when Targetted, when he isn't he doesn't have it.<BR><BR>After Doomsworn Zatrakh is dead just get your raid into position and either:<BR>A.) Drop someone from the raid to go and activate him.<BR>B.) Use your puller to go past the line, taunt the Corsolander and bring him to your MT.<BR>Make sure your MT has his Heat resists high and the Damage shield doesn't touch him much at all. Ohh and yes it's a good idea if your Melle use thier highest Melle Attacks every so often to help if the healers can't cope with them Melleing constantly because of low resists.<BR><p>Message Edited by Soul_Dreamer on <span class=date_text>10-12-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:34 AM</span>

[ReviloTX]

<P>Ravager is immune to mental (well, very resistant) and also memwipes.  Use that info to choose who tanks him.  Ravager also puts out a large amount of damage and has relatively low HP, use that to choose which you kill first.</P> <P>Prophet heals the others, but it can be overcome fairly easily with decent DPS.  Prophet fears also, and has same HP as the ravager.</P> <P>Reaver (does not memwipe) has the most HP, does decent damage but not quite as much as the ravager, and has an ae stun that's larger than heal range.</P> <P>We have always triple tanked this encounter, it makes it trivial if you seperate them properly, use the right tanks on the right mobs, and burn the right ones first.  At minimum I would suggest two tanks, split who tanks what by the info I gave ya.</P> <P>As for uncaged, if you can't beat him you really don't even need to pull Vyemm.</P>

[khufure]

<div>The reason you are dying so fast is truama, ravager is a brigand.  Have one healer curing truama through the ravager.  Also pet pull with conj (best due to stoneskin), nec, or illusionist.  Pet pull helps get the positioning right and some of the nasties go onto the pet.</div>

[MrMartin]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> khufure wrote:<BR> <DIV>The reason you are dying so fast is truama, ravager is a brigand.  Have one healer curing truama through the ravager.  Also pet pull with conj (best due to stoneskin), nec, or illusionist.  Pet pull helps get the positioning right and some of the nasties go onto the pet.<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>The MT (me) is dying but im the one tanking Prophet + Reaver. Another Guardian is tanking the Ravager.</P> <P>Might try the pet pull next time.</P> <P>Thanks all for your advice. Next time Doom Trio is going down on first pull and so is The Uncaged Alzid. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

[Aven Elonis]

<P>I generally pull all three together.  A templer casts Santuary on me, I run up the hallway pull with Protect. Bring them back to the prior room and set them corner opposite raid force. (Generally also use Stone Sphere on the pull with Tower of Stone, figure why not). </P> <P>We take the Prophet first, Ravager second and Reaver third.</P> <P>The other fighters watch for Ravager to peel, and bring him back. Seems like a 50/50 for the wipe mem for the ravager.</P> <P>Generally no problem, but if the Mig Debuffs are not cured fast, it can go south fast.</P> <P> </P><p>Message Edited by Aven Elonis on <span class=date_text>10-13-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:23 PM</span>

[mikeyswizz]

<DIV>Conj pet pull with planeshft, zerker tank all 3, druid spam cure trauma.. burn ravager down.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>=)</DIV>

[khufure]

<div><blockquote><hr>mikeyswizz wrote:<div>Conj pet pull with planeshft, zerker tank all 3, druid spam cure trauma.. burn ravager down.</div> <div> </div> <div>=)</div><hr></blockquote>Yes, and it is important for the healers to be away from the stun AE.  Have your DPS burn that ravager down.  Dont hold back waiting for aggro because he's just going to memwipe anyway.  The faster ravager goes down the more your success is assured.Actually after you do him once its cake from then on.  Funny how that works out.</div>

[zormik]

<DIV>First of all,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The reaver does not memwipe, the ravager does :smileywink:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The reaver has most hp and his the hardest hitting one but it's consistant dps. The ravager is far more trickier since if he debuffs you'll be hit with insane amounts.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The strategy you wrote out yourself should work fine. When you pull let a conj pull with a bolstered pl. pet to absorb the initial spikedps.  Let your MT control the the prophet and the reaver while the MT healers focus on him.   Have some other tanks taunting the crap out of the ravager and dedicate one MA.  Burn the ravager down asap.  Once he's down the fight is easy and you continue burning down the prophet and then the reaver.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I don't see what the problem is that the blobs stay on the MT.  This is actually a good thing.  Dedicate one MA to swap between uncaged and the blobs and burn those blobs down with all you have. Keep your spikedps for when blobs pop (all the dps should be on the blobs when they pop).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now the corsolander.  This is actually a very easy mob if you do it right.  Let everybody stay at max range (fighters and scouts should only use their bows) and allow the MT to use his ca's from time to time (he will receive more damage because of it but it should still be not to hard to keep him up).  Go for steady dps.  Don't overdps since the MT will have a harder time holding aggro (or choose a pally with amends).  Even with low raiddps the fight should not take too long...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by zormik on <span class=date_text>10-16-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:42 PM</span>

[Chefren]

Also for the Corsolander:<ol><li>Make sure everyone has T7 ammo and not tin arrows.</li><li>Scout debuffers can run in, use one debuff and run back out. Nobody must stay and melee. The MT should keep auto-attack off as much as possible.</li></ol><div></div>

[Jida]

<div><blockquote><hr>Chefren wrote:Also for the Corsolander:<ol><li>Make sure everyone has T7 ammo and not tin arrows.</li><li>Scout debuffers can run in, use one debuff and run back out. Nobody must stay and melee. The MT should keep auto-attack off as much as possible.</li></ol><div></div><hr></blockquote>MT, unequip main weapon</div>

[MrMartin]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jida wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Chefren wrote:<BR>Also for the Corsolander:<BR><BR> <OL> <LI>Make sure everyone has T7 ammo and not tin arrows.</LI> <LI>Scout debuffers can run in, use one debuff and run back out. Nobody must stay and melee. The MT should keep auto-attack off as much as possible.<BR></LI></OL> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>MT, unequip main weapon<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Yeah, heared about that tactics. Gonna try it tonight. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[AlexT]

<DIV>The Damage shield on the Corsolander is heat, as a guardian thats your highest resist so you shouldn't need to unequip your weapon <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> however if you are finding him hard then maybe keep weapon on but don't spam CA's or if you use a buckler switch to towershield to stop double attacks on the DS.</DIV><p>Message Edited by AlexT on <span class=date_text>10-16-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:27 PM</span>

[TheBladesCaress]

<div><blockquote><hr>Chefren wrote:Also for the Corsolander:<ol><li>Scout debuffers can run in, use one debuff and run back out. Nobody must stay and melee. The MT should keep auto-attack off as much as possible.</li></ol><div></div><hr></blockquote>I encourage all in my group to melee this guy... good for my heal numbers <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span>  One of the few mobs I get to whack with my Blackscale Maul.</div>

[MrMartin]

<DIV>To all of you who helped me out with advice, wanted to update you on how it went. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR>We had our labs raid last night.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Quoted from the summary I wrote on our guild-forums:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Next up was The Doom Trio. We decided to use a new method of pulling this time after doing some research on the SOE forums. Ladypax brought out her fighter pet and buffed it up, then sent it away to eat all the initial spike dmg. After that I taunted all three of them and tanked them all in my usual corner. We only needed one pull. Yupp, thats right folks, first pull. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR>I think only 2 ppl died and that was because of the Mem whipe.<BR>The Dracomancer Bindings dropped and all the mages went nuts. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Today it was time to deal with our greatest foe in Labs. He has been tried several times but we never killed him. The Uncaged Alzid.<BR>With new and improved tactics, Ifurita spamming the TAB button, we pulled it off on first pull! <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR>Very nice all! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR>He dropped the Necro hat that Ofai was happy to get and Jays, not so happy to lose. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As mentioned, The Corsolander, who we got to 18% last time, was right infront of us now.<BR>We knew how to do it, we just had to execute it. Hearts and Shards to all the healers, 1 Dirge and 1 Coercer in MT group, ppl feeding the healers with power and melee DPS use their highest hits on my command.<BR>First pull we got him down to 7% before some strange spike dmg killed me.<BR>Second pull we had a big Corsolander BBQ. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR>Zarita won a very nice belt.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And this is how far we made it this time. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=time_text><A href="http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eq2000169da8.jpg" target=_blank>http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eq2000169da8.jpg</A></SPAN></DIV><p>Message Edited by MrMartin on <span class=date_text>10-18-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:24 AM</span>

[TheBladesCaress]

Well done....  it is a nice feeling to get further along than you have before.Be prepared though, Lord Vyemm and Alzid Prime are quite a bit tougher, but if you look around there are many posts with info about the encounter.Good luck and have fun.<div></div>

[Soul_Dreamer]

<P>Congrats and GL on Vyemm and Alzid Prime.<BR>As Zira said this pair are easily the hardest in the zone and the rest of the zone doesn't really prepare you for them in any way at all. Research them and decide on the pull/tactic that you think best suits your raids way of doing things and it's just practice from then on.</P>

[Ja]

<P>Check out my site for tips on all those mobs: <A href="http://eq2.raidmobs.com" target=_blank>http://eq2.raidmobs.com</A></P> <P> </P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>Corsolander:</FONT></P> <P>Simply <FONT color=#ff0000>have the MT fight it</FONT> <FONT color=#ff0000>without a weapon</FONT> in the primary hand.  Assuming you are using a guardian or zerker, you'll never hit the mob, thus never take the damage shield hits.   This way you dont have to worry about autoattack turning on/off.   Have everyone else range it to death.</P> <P> </P> <P><BR> </P>

[TheSummoned]

I like to use a crusader for Corsolander, they just have more things to throw at him for aggro <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[Lanalia]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TheSummoned wrote:<BR>I like to use a crusader for Corsolander, they just have more things to throw at him for aggro <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Agreed. We love to use a Paladin on Corsolander - between Amends and non-melee attacks, it's incredibly hard to lose aggro.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[MrMartin]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jabs wrote:<BR> <P>Check out my site for tips on all those mobs: <A href="http://eq2.raidmobs.com/" target=_blank>http://eq2.raidmobs.com</A></P> <P> </P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>Corsolander:</FONT></P> <P>Simply <FONT color=#ff0000>have the MT fight it</FONT> <FONT color=#ff0000>without a weapon</FONT> in the primary hand.  Assuming you are using a guardian or zerker, you'll never hit the mob, thus never take the damage shield hits.   This way you dont have to worry about autoattack turning on/off.   Have everyone else range it to death.</P> <P> </P> <P><BR> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I read that site a lot and actually tried to fight with no weapon. Just having 2 taunts to push just didn't cut it so I used my weapon to be able to use my attacktaunt and some big attacks every now and then. The fight would be way to slow otherwise.<BR>Since me, the MT doesn't have very good gear yet, the Paladin (that we don't have) would have had even worse gear. Might work with a Shadowknight also...?

[Ja]

<DIV>Using hate increase % mods buffs, hate transfers like murderous design from an assassin whos ranging, etc should help out with the extra agro.    If you've got the resists (like 7k heat), you can try fighting with a weapon to land your debuffs (hew, sever) and hit with your vindictive strike and taunting assaults, and swap them out.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You should be able to outright resist some of the firey hide hits.</DIV>

[Snorm]

<P>In two weeks you will wonder how you ever died on any of those <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Well one week now....</P> <P>2 points...</P> <P>1. The doom trio is the trio just in front of the Corsalander, so named because the main has that doomed ailment that hits for 90% health. The Ravager/Prophet/Reaver trio.. well I always just call them the trio <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> not sure if there is a fixed named. Ravager trio seems to be used sometimes. I'm not sure what the recast on his mit debuff is, because he only seems to get it off once. Once that's out of the picture, they don't hit hard at all.</P> <P>We generally have split tanked them like you describe. Last week, I (tanking prophet/reaver) got pushed way out of range and died on the pull. The Ravager tank had apparantly hit an AE taunt when I was dragging them back and they snapped back to him (that or he just picked them up, didn't really ask) Anyway, for all intents and purposes, I was the pet for a pet pull <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> His gear is mostly legendary with some fabled tossed in. He tanked it out w/o incident. I think I threw in one intercede when damage spiked a hair. By the time I was fully buffed, the ravager was dead and the prophet in the red. Point is, if you get that initial mit-debuff out of the way, I don't think there is any reason to bother with splitting them or your healers, whatever your gear situation.</P> <P>2. In terms of tanking the Corsalander as a guard, I couldn't hold him for crap w/o a weapon up. Probably could be done, but DPS would just suck. What I do is use rescue, primary and AE taunts everytime they are up (of course) and work in the big attacks when they are up and when my health isn't in jepardy, trying to get the HO's going as much as possible. Not sure if the dot's trigger the DS on every tick because I always assumed they did and never used them. If they don't then keeping those running would help. Obliterate generates a ton of aggro (handy when you're on Vyemm or other memwipe mobs, BTW). Flay is what I usually use on the HO, unless it's not up. The more I tank him, the more I just tank him like a normal mob. The nice thing with him is you get to decide to a large extent when he will hit you (by hitting him), meaning if your health drops just stand there and work the taunts until your healers catch up. You can hit reinforcement when you're getting ready to land 3 or 4 attacks quickly for a little extra aggro.</P> <P>Snorm -- 70 Guard</P>