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kezef
09-17-2006, 10:14 AM
I would really like to see some X3 raid zones put into the game.  We (our guild) can only really fill up a full raid force on Friday nights so we tend to only have 1 legitimate target available per week,  Tonight we went into the Lyceum with 16 people (all we had) and spawned the Essence of Fear and didn't have a chance.  So we went over to the AoA x4 zone and had trouble beating the respawn time on the mobs in there.  The X2 zones aren't really that plentiful and get old real quick.  I think some X3 zones would be great even for hardcore guilds that want some content to work on during the week or even something more challenging for their members to do with 2 groups.  We don't quite have that gear so when we try the X4 zones with almost 3 full groups we fall short of the end goal pretty consitently.  <div></div>

Gyilok
09-17-2006, 02:48 PM
get an alliance to fill your ranks, thats what every casual guild that wants to raid does, there wont be more x3 content in the future either probably

Noaani
09-17-2006, 04:54 PM
<P>Yeah, x3 content is not all the common, and i doubt that will change any time soon.</P> <P>If you are well equipped, and know how to raid, you should be able to have a decient go at Labs with 16. The last guild I was in made it to Vyemm with 14, didn't even bother pulling him, but we cleared the zone except for Vyemm/AP.</P> <P>I would assume your one full raid a week is spent in Labs, if so, maybe you should consider changing that. Do Labs with 2.5 - 3 groups on whatever day you can get them, and when you have 4 groups, head off and do HoS and Lyceum in one night. If your working on Deathtoll access, do Lyceum/AoA one week, HoS/Harla Dra the next, then Lyceum/AoA for the other dragon.</P>

vinterskugge
09-17-2006, 08:01 PM
<DIV>Most of the x4 content is doable with three groups.</DIV>

TanRaistlyn
09-17-2006, 11:15 PM
<DIV>Did all of HoS with 15 people so its possible - just takes patience lots of drinking and decent gear.  Practice makes perfect :smileyvery-happy:</DIV>

Yask
09-18-2006, 03:15 AM
<P>Some X3 stuff thats NOT aimed at hard core raiders who can do X4 stuff with 3 groups would be good!</P> <P> </P>

Lairdragna
09-18-2006, 08:49 AM
Go outside the guild, on occassion we are 2-3 people short for a full raid and those 2-3 people are classes we need.  We go outside the guild and never have trouble finding people.  Helps that we give everyone an equal shot at the loot and don't rule anything as reserved for guildies only (except essences if we are killing a monolith, but the loot itself is randomed by useable classes).  This afternoon we killed Harla Dar.  Three fableds in the chest... the chain boots, the cloth sleeves and a templar master.  The master went to our templar because she was the only templar in the raid who needed it.  The boots and sleaves ended up being won by two of the four non-guildies in the raid.  What do you want to bet they will come again if invited?  <span>:smileywink:</span><div></div>

MrMartin
09-18-2006, 12:24 PM
<P>With 3 groups of 70s you can easily beat most of the T6 raids and get decent loot and lots of status. When geared up from there it might be easier to take on T7 with less then 24 ppl.</P> <P>IMHO, x2 and x4 raids are enough. They need to make some more x2 though.</P>

Lairdragna
09-18-2006, 07:48 PM
<div><blockquote><hr>MrMartin wrote:<div></div> <p>With 3 groups of 70s you can easily beat most of the T6 raids and get decent loot and lots of status. When geared up from there it might be easier to take on T7 with less then 24 ppl.</p> <p>IMHO, x2 and x4 raids are enough. They need to make some more x2 though.</p><hr></blockquote>Concur... Courts is a great zone for gearing up.  Although I have to say, a level 56 equippable piece of gear is toward the end of its useful life for a tank at least by the time you are raiding T7.  A few pieces interspersed with legendary T7 drops is a viable option.  However I would not want to be wearing full T6 fabled while tanking level 70+x4 epics.T7 legendary is pretty good base gear.  Awakened Scalelord armor, a Cuirass of Protection, two light chitin rings, grizz's shield and some leftover T6 fabled is enough to get you through a good chunk of the Claymore series line for borderline fabled-quality T7 legendary armor and some great resist and mitigation jewelry.  From there you will be well equipped to start tanking the trash in Labs and Lyceum and most of the nameds.</div>

Mastire
09-18-2006, 08:31 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> kezef76 wrote:<BR>I would really like to see some X3 raid zones put into the game.  We (our guild) can only really fill up a full raid force on Friday nights so we tend to only have 1 legitimate target available per week,  Tonight we went into the Lyceum with 16 people (all we had) and spawned the Essence of Fear and didn't have a chance.  So we went over to the AoA x4 zone and had trouble beating the respawn time on the mobs in there.  The X2 zones aren't really that plentiful and get old real quick.  I think some X3 zones would be great even for hardcore guilds that want some content to work on during the week or even something more challenging for their members to do with 2 groups.  We don't quite have that gear so when we try the X4 zones with almost 3 full groups we fall short of the end goal pretty consitently.  <BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Most mobs in Labs,DT, and lycium can be 3 grouped. Labs I have cleared up to the corsolander with 16 people in a guild that was falling apart. And if you can't do them sill head to do some T6, You should be able to finish teh zones in there and some of the last mobs drop some nice gear still.

TimidMou
09-19-2006, 04:47 AM
I think the bloodlines raid zone is x3 although admittedly thats a long time ago. If you get the bloodlines masters to drop you could sell for insane money tho <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />