Camping and getting reported

[m0ya]

<DIV>Ok so this afternoon I was camping a lvl 35 named (I am lvl 70) and a group of 30-34 came in the room I was (I was in there for one hour already) and they call me an [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn], a farmer and a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]. I wanted that scout BP that have a 30sec proc to raise my DPS in raid. One of them reported me. a few mins ago I get a tell from a GM telling me I got reported... please read this (comming from my logs) :</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(1156541394)[Fri Aug 25 17:29:54 2006] aPC -1 Tasim:Tasim/a tells you,"hello"<BR>(1156541395)[Fri Aug 25 17:29:55 2006] You tell Tasim,"lol"<BR>(115654139<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />[Fri Aug 25 17:29:58 2006] You tell Tasim,"mt"<BR>(1156541401)[Fri Aug 25 17:30:01 2006] You tell Tasim,"heya"<BR>(1156541420)[Fri Aug 25 17:30:20 2006] aPC -1 Tasim:Tasim/a tells you,"This is GM Tasim from the SOE"<BR>(1156541429)[Fri Aug 25 17:30:29 2006] You tell Tasim,"Oh!"<BR>(1156541439)[Fri Aug 25 17:30:39 2006] You say, "Hail, Tasim"<BR>(1156541441)[Fri Aug 25 17:30:41 2006] Helspeth bows to Tasim.<BR>(1156541449)[Fri Aug 25 17:30:49 2006] Tasim bows.<BR>(1156541481)[Fri Aug 25 17:31:21 2006] aPC -1 Tasim:Tasim/a tells you,"please don't  camp at the same node"<BR>(1156541499)[Fri Aug 25 17:31:39 2006] You tell Tasim,"?"<BR>(1156541523)[Fri Aug 25 17:32:03 2006] aPC -1 Tasim:Tasim/a tells you,"we have got the report that you don't allow others to kill this mob"<BR>(1156541534)[Fri Aug 25 17:32:14 2006] You tell Tasim,"what?!?"<BR>(1156541539)[Fri Aug 25 17:32:19 2006] You tell Tasim,"Can i explain myself?"<BR>(1156541543)[Fri Aug 25 17:32:23 2006] aPC -1 Tasim:Tasim/a tells you,"please don't do this"<BR>(1156541555)[Fri Aug 25 17:32:35 2006] aPC -1 Tasim:Tasim/a tells you,"yes, please"<BR>(115654160<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />[Fri Aug 25 17:33:28 2006] You tell Tasim,"I was in Ruins of Varsoons thias afternoon, I was camping a mob to get this item : aITEM -2049776367 1223462191:Et'sipe's Haubergeon of Undeath/a. I wanted this item to raise my DPS in raids. Since it's no-trade therE,s no way i can buy it."<BR>(1156541636)[Fri Aug 25 17:33:56 2006] aPC -1 Tasim:Tasim/a tells you,"you don't kill and doesn't allow others to kill"<BR>(1156541662)[Fri Aug 25 17:34:22 2006] aPC -1 Tasim:Tasim/a tells you,"it's ok but be mindful of my words from now on"<BR>(1156541665)[Fri Aug 25 17:34:25 2006] You tell Tasim,"So I was in that same room until he pop. Then that group came in the room I was in, I told them it was camped by me and they start calling me a farmer and a looser, an [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn], etc etc"<BR>(1156541682)[Fri Aug 25 17:34:42 2006] You tell Tasim,"i didn't stop them from killing"<BR>(1156541693)[Fri Aug 25 17:34:53 2006] You tell Tasim,"At any point they told me they may need that guy for a quest"<BR>(1156541693)[Fri Aug 25 17:34:53 2006] aPC -1 Tasim:Tasim/a tells you,"it's ok"<BR>(1156541712)[Fri Aug 25 17:35:12 2006] You tell Tasim,"I don,t understand why this is making a huge story, i have my logs on if you want to see them"<BR>(1156541741)[Fri Aug 25 17:35:41 2006] aPC -1 Tasim:Tasim/a tells you,"we have our own records to investigate this issue"<BR>(1156541753)[Fri Aug 25 17:35:53 2006] You tell Tasim,"Ok"<BR>(1156541763)[Fri Aug 25 17:36:03 2006] You tell Tasim,"So what will happen?"<BR>(1156541866)[Fri Aug 25 17:37:46 2006] aPC -1 Tasim:Tasim/a tells you,"we can't let you know about the empending action on the account as per the directive of our privacy policy"<BR>(115654188<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />[Fri Aug 25 17:38:08 2006] You tell Tasim,"what will happen to me? it,s my account and I,m paying for it, it's ym right to know."<BR>(1156541967)[Fri Aug 25 17:39:27 2006] aPC -1 Tasim:Tasim/a tells you,"this has first time happened so please just treat it as a normal admonition"<BR>(1156541985)[Fri Aug 25 17:39:45 2006] You tell Tasim,"Ok, tyvm. can i ask you a question tho?"<BR>(115654202<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />[Fri Aug 25 17:40:28 2006] aPC -1 Tasim:Tasim/a tells you,"if you persist with the reported activities in future then appropriate action will be taken against yours account"<BR>(1156542041)[Fri Aug 25 17:40:41 2006] aPC -1 Tasim:Tasim/a tells you,"ok"<BR>(1156542056)[Fri Aug 25 17:40:56 2006] aPC -1 Tasim:Tasim/a tells you,"bye"</DIV> <DIV>(1156542091)[Fri Aug 25 17:41:31 2006] aPC -1 Tasim:Tasim/a tells you,"please avoid camping for longer period"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So..... WHAT THE [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] IS THIS??!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I NEVER told them they couldn't stay.. I told them I was camping it because I wanted the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] Item!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Can SONY delete my account because I posted this? lol</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Pins]

This post will get deleted, and/or locked because it's against the rules.However you have every right to camp a mob if you so want a piece of loot.

[XoXeNo]

the GM in this case is wrong imo. if there is something you want in this game you have every right to be camping the mob to try and get the item. though as said before this will get locked / deleted or moved<div></div>

[Magic]

<DIV> <P>Back around launch, I once had a discussion with a CSR about camping except that it was I who complained about someone "stealing" the mob that I was camping.  The message was the same, camping is not allowed.  I understand the reason behind it and it makes sense.  It's a fact of life in MMO games.  That's why I like instances so much.  But I feel your pain.</P> <P>The way I see it, you can continue to kill a particular mob until another player/group comes along.  What happens then is up for debate.  One option, if you haven't already killed it recently, is to make it a race to see who can lock the encounter first or group together.  If you've killed it recently, an option would be to stand down and let the other player/group take it so that you don't risk locking it again and having another chat with a CSR about camping.  Afterward, if that same player/group hangs around to kill it again, you can both race to lock the encounter, take turns, or group together.</P> <P>Oh, another option comes to mind.  Kindly ask the other player/group to leave the item that you want in the chest so that you can grab it when the lockout timer runs out.  I suppose that you can offer something in return once you get that item.  I say to wait until after because someone else might come along and grab it before you can.</P></DIV>

[Renolas]

wonder which country the GM is from

[Sportak]

Just out of interest, how did you intend to get the drop if the mob was lvl 35 and you are lvl 70?I'm not calling you a liar or anything, and the GM response seems a little odd at best, but you don't mention mentoring anyone or being in a group, so I was just wondering.

[Kyriel]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Renolas wrote:<BR> wonder which country the GM is from<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>India :smileywink:</P> <P><IMG src="http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y265/niluvani/coolestGMever.jpg"></P>

[m0ya]

<DIV>When the mob finally pop I had a lvl 41 on the way so I can mentor him...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And Btw.. they were jsut xp'ing, they just couldn't leave me alone, they had to /report me - The zone was barely empty except them, a group of 27's and me. I needed that BP, they don'T understand why. I do. This bp have a nice proc no matter what lvl you are!</DIV>

[Drift3r]

I have no problem with people camping a mob but don't expect exclusive rights to said mob IMHO. Those people pay just as much as you do to play this game. No one has exclusive rights to any mob in this game IMHO just because you were there for a while camping it.<div></div>

[m0ya]

<DIV>I was there for about 1hour½-2hours already when they pop up BUT that group zoned in like 20-30minsmins before they make it to my room, the only thing I said is : "Sorry it's camped." And then they start [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ing after me.</DIV>

[Scort]

I thought it was well known that SOE outsourced their /petition system to India a long time ago.Even if they are listed as GM, they are still from India.There are rarely ever any true blue SOE employees handling in-game issues, unless it's a dev team member or you get ahold of someone at SOE and they come in and handle the issue.Personally, they should just set up a bot program that sends an immediate replay to the person sending in a petition that says "Sorry, there is nothing we can do to help with this issue", as that is what ends up being said 99% of the time anyway. It would save them a TON of money.The majority of them have never ever played the game and have no clue as to what is going on when someone petitions things anyway. They just go by scripts, which would explain this GM's actions. He just read camping in the petition and searched for that word and the policy came up and that's what he went by.Anyway, there is a difference between camping a spot so no one else can get an item and camping a spot to get an item you need that doesn't always drop, as there is no other way to do it. Problem is with CS and GMs that are unfamiliar with the game and unable to tell the difference.

[hellfire]

<DIV>well not to split hairs here but you dont need the mob you want it to raise  your dps.but you dont need it <such as a needed update for  a quest> wanting and needing are 2 different things.this would be gameplay disruptionas there isnt suppose to be camping especially for a item you truely dont need.nowit use to be the norm to respect the  area someone might be in but think soe may be trying to enforce the rule where in  the past they relied on players to police themselfs.</DIV>

[jago quicksilver]

<div><blockquote><hr>Scortch wrote:I thought it was well known that SOE outsourced their /petition system to India a long time ago.Even if they are listed as GM, they are still from India.There are rarely ever any true blue SOE employees handling in-game issues, unless it's a dev team member or you get ahold of someone at SOE and they come in and handle the issue.Personally, they should just set up a bot program that sends an immediate replay to the person <font color="#cc0000">sending in a petition that says "Sorry, there is nothing we can do to help with this issue"</font>, as that is what ends up being said 99% of the time anyway. It would save them a TON of money.The majority of them have never ever played the game and have no clue as to what is going on when someone petitions things anyway. They just go by scripts, which would explain this GM's actions. He just read camping in the petition and searched for that word and the policy came up and that's what he went by.Anyway, there is a difference between camping a spot so no one else can get an item and camping a spot to get an item you need that doesn't always drop, as there is no other way to do it. Problem is with CS and GMs that are unfamiliar with the game and unable to tell the difference.<hr></blockquote>you forget everyone's favorite saying, "working as Intended." the bot program could randomly choose between these 2 phrases.</div>

[standupwookie]

Is this one of the three mobs that are spawned after killing the ring event skeletons in the three rooms.  If others are killing the skellies, and you are just waiting until they spawn the named....then I can see the warning. If its just some random mob....go for it, you have the same rights as they.  Not like you are exploting the system. <div></div>

[fang101]

lol about the India thing think you might be right. I had put in a ticket about wanting my last name in Koada'Dal [I wanted a word in that translated to English letters ] Then he goes and asks me "What is Koada'Dal?" :smileyvery-happy:

[iceriven2]

<P>ok umm question, Since when was camping not allowed.  Only thing i ever heard of was camping was it not being recognize by the GM... so as long as the camp was held by the same person for an entire day and such then your fine but i would hardly call an hr in a half monopolising the area.  Suprised SOE hasn't learned there lesson on customer service...I have two instances of my own where they tell you one thing and the next tech or GM comes along and says another.</P> <P>My advice would be to save all your logs and just ignore it all and go back to enjoying the game.  Try not letting [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] players that reported you or SOE confused GM to deter you.  </P>

[AegisCrown]

<div><blockquote><hr>iceriven2 wrote:<div></div> <p>ok umm question, Since when was camping not allowed.  Only thing i ever heard of was camping was it not being recognize by the GM... so as long as the camp was held by the same person for an entire day and such then your fine but i would hardly call an hr in a half monopolising the area.  Suprised SOE hasn't learned there lesson on customer service...I have two instances of my own where they tell you one thing and the next tech or GM comes along and says another.</p> <p>My advice would be to save all your logs and just ignore it all and go back to enjoying the game.  Try not letting [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] players that reported you or SOE confused GM to deter you.  </p><hr></blockquote>thats what i thought as well was that camping jsut wasnt recognized by sony.  and its not as if you were [Removed for Content] them from quest updates.</div>

[3C HAVOK]

<DIV>Dont think that was a real GM tbh. They usualy have a name that is like CSR_name like that, plus the way they were talking is not how i have ever had a gm talk before. a gm saying ok bye like that is odd. My guess is they were [Removed for Content] and trying to get you to leave and scare you off. Reading that log no way it was a gm imho anyway. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Kyriel]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> 3C HAVOK wrote:<BR> <DIV>Dont think that was a real GM tbh. They usualy have a name that is like CSR_name like that, plus the way they were talking is not how i have ever had a gm talk before. a gm saying ok bye like that is odd. My guess is they were [Removed for Content] and trying to get you to leave and scare you off. Reading that log no way it was a gm imho anyway. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Its true. It was probably the people you [Removed for Content] off's friends or somthing lol</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(1156541420)[Fri Aug 25 17:30:20 2006] aPC -1 Tasim:Tasim/a tells you,"This is GM Tasim from the SOE"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>rofl.</DIV>

[kenm]

<div></div><div></div>Actually, every time a GM has contacted me it's looked identical to that.One time I questioned it and got teleported into antonica while I was in the middle of a raid... =<div></div><p>Message Edited by kenman on <span class=date_text>08-28-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:40 AM</span>

[z3oslo]

He was not a GM.Kinda funny you thought he was <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Report the sucker. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><p>Message Edited by z3oslo on <span class=date_text>08-28-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:28 AM</span>

[Rahatmattata]

<DIV>Funny most people can't stand competition for contested named mobs. Any time someone gets out pulled on a name they [Removed for Content] and cry and petition and report. :smileyvery-happy: I do remember seeing somewhere that it is against game rules to monopolize a spawn. However just camping there waiting on a named to spawn is not monopolizing IMO because any one else could certainly stand right next to you waiting for the pop, and either group could get the claim. Anyway, what you should probably do next time is just run around and hit up all the named down there in the basement instead of just camping one particular mob. Then you will be killing all the named, really [Removed for Content] off that group, and they can't do anything about it because you are just playing in a legitimant way. I don't think there's even anything against the rules about a level 70 going to a zone like RoV or FG and slaugtering gray nameds just for fun even if another group is there. Might be kind of a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] for doing so, but I don't think it's against the rules.</DIV>

[m0ya]

<DIV>Nah... he had a GM title, he was in-game, he was a wizard  I think.... with the usual SoE  GM robes <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Jida]

<div><blockquote><hr>Zemfira wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Renolas wrote: <div></div>wonder which country the GM is from <hr> </blockquote> <p>India :smileywink:</p> <p><img src="http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y265/niluvani/coolestGMever.jpg"></p><hr></blockquote>Is it just me or does this guy have alot of snwoballs?</div>

[argsix]

<blockquote><hr>m0ya wrote:<div>Nah... he had a GM title, he was in-game, he was a wizard  I think.... with the usual SoE  GM robes <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><hr></blockquote>No, he was probably a Guide.  Guides are <u>NOT</u> CSM's...  They can NOT do anything other than hand out cookies, do limited RP events and help out with the live events, officialy anyway.  They can teleport you around if they want, but they are realy not supposed to.  As for issues with spawn disputes all they officialy can do is refer either party to the CSM ticketing system.<div></div>

[Schmoogles]

If I was that person who petitioned you and you told me you were killing a mob in RoV with your 70 Swashy to get a BP to increase your dps I would of told you to go to hell.  Who the hell wants a BP from RoV for there level 70 toon to increase there dps? Personally I just think your a [Removed for Content] for wanting a BP from RoV to increase your dps at level 70. <p>Message Edited by Schmoogles on <span class=date_text>08-29-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:27 AM</span>

[Pins]

<blockquote><hr>Schmoogles wrote:If I was that person who petitioned you and you told me you were killing a mob in RoV with your 70 Swashy to get a weapon to increase your raid dps I would of told you to go to hell.  Who the hell wants a weapon from RoV for there level 70 toon to increase there raid dps? Personally I just think your a [Removed for Content] for wanting a weapon from RoV to increase your dps at level 70. <hr></blockquote>Pfft, everybody knows that the BP from RoV is awesome. 30 seconds of a 50% proc to do 150 damage?(30 minute recast) That's a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ing awesome proc, and every raiding scout should have one.

[AegisCrown]

<div><blockquote><hr>Schmoogles wrote:<div></div> <div></div>If I was that person who petitioned you and you told me you were killing a mob in RoV with your 70 Swashy to get a BP to increase your dps I would of told you to go to hell.  Who the hell wants a BP from RoV for there level 70 toon to increase there dps? Personally I just think your a [Removed for Content] for wanting a BP from RoV to increase your dps at level 70. <p>Message Edited by Schmoogles on <span class="date_text">08-29-2006</span> <span class="time_text">06:27 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>honestly for what the bp can do on a raid especially where you need jsut a little more dps etc its phenominal. its a 20min reuse cal</div>

[electricninjasex]

<blockquote><hr>Schmoogles wrote:<div></div> <div></div>If I was that person who petitioned you and you told me you were killing a mob in RoV with your 70 Swashy to get a BP to increase your dps I would of told you to go to hell.  Who the hell wants a BP from RoV for there level 70 toon to increase there dps? Personally I just think your a [Removed for Content] for wanting a BP from RoV to increase your dps at level 70. <hr></blockquote>How can you be in a raid guild and never hear your scouts talk about this BP?  Ear wax buildup?  Chat colors kinda blending in with the background?  What is it?

[yettii]

LOL.  Someone hasn't a clue about this Coat.  I got it 6 levels before I could use it, and it's been hotbarred ever since.  The proc is damned cool, and besides the DPS bit, its also a lifetap when it goes off, making it a lifesaver when you're soloing and you get more than expected.  Not to mention you look like a Revenant for half a minute, a great & disturbing change in the middle of a group/raid.The Plate equivalent in RoV drains your power bit by bit but boosts DPS by 40% while on.  Priceless for Zerkers on the parse or in a pinch, including mine.  Same duration, same recast, Zombie illusion.'Tis a shame they nerfed the Brawler vest in there.  Its activatable used to stun the mob like every 3 hits, which was a godsend until SoE killed it by making it only effect mobs under lv40.  On top of what brawlers can already do though, a 33% stun proc IS massively overpowered though.<div></div>

[m0ya]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Schmoogles wrote:<BR> If I was that person who petitioned you and you told me you were killing a mob in RoV with your 70 Swashy to get a BP to increase your dps I would of told you to go to hell.  Who the hell wants a BP from RoV for there level 70 toon to increase there dps? Personally I just think your a [Removed for Content] for wanting a BP from RoV to increase your dps at level 70.  <P>Message Edited by Schmoogles on <SPAN class=date_text>08-29-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>06:27 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>WHO THE HELL ARE YOU?!? You have no clue of what you're talking about so shut the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] up and stop talking about stuff you don't know! [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn].</P> <P>I feel better.....</P>

[StoneySilen]

<DIV>I thought all GM's had GM in their name.  Are you absolutely sure that it was a GM and not a friend of the groups who was trying to scare you off?</DIV>

[m0ya]

<DIV><IMG src="http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/chientchat/EQ2_002465.jpg"></DIV>

[IllusiveThoughts]

<P>sounds like the people got [Removed for Content] when you said you were camping the mob.  </P> <P>that might have been Your mistake, remember that your accountable too.</P> <P>The other hand it also sounds like the group lied to get their petition heard.</P> <P>and the third wrong (if two dont make a right what does 3 make?) is posting it here.</P>

[Kyriel]

<DIV>SOE CUSTOMER SUPPORT -- HAS::: <STRONG> <U>a soe_customer_support</U>_johndoe tells you</STRONG>, "Hey whazzup homie"</DIV> <DIV><EM>A GUIDE</EM> - HAS:::  <STRONG>johndoe tells you</STRONG>, "Yo yo fo shizzle" </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The person who is in the logs, is obviously a guide and not a customer support. It is a guide who speaks very very very bad english for the soe! </DIV> <DIV>But who cares, its nonsense. Its over. The guide is [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn], just forget about it and chill out ur not going to get reporterd or hacked or banned etc etc </DIV>

[TanRaistlyn]

I still heart you long time Schmoogles

[Schmoogles]

well imo I still think your a [Removed for Content] for going back to camp the mob in RoV.  For a 30 second buff that procs 50% with a 20 min cast timer on it to proc 150 damage. Yes I know what this BP does and I still think youra [Removed for Content] for getting it.  You can use this twice maybe three times per raids for a total of 1 min and 30 seconds.  To go camp a mob in a grey zone and have to mentor to get it I just think it's stupid and you must really suck if you are resorting back to T4 stuff with procs that actually work in order to increase your dps.  I know many scouts that can do sick dps with out this BP.   

[Pins]

<blockquote><hr>Schmoogles wrote:well imo I still think your a [Removed for Content] for going back to camp the mob in RoV.  For a 30 second buff that procs 50% with a 20 min cast timer on it to proc 150 damage. Yes I know what this BP does and I still think youra [Removed for Content] for getting it.  You can use this twice maybe three times per raids for a total of 1 min and 30 seconds.  To go camp a mob in a grey zone and have to mentor to get it I just think it's stupid and you must really suck if you are resorting back to T4 stuff with procs that actually work in order to increase your dps.  I know many scouts that can do sick dps with out this BP.   <hr></blockquote>You need to talk to the scouts in your guild then, like Snark who think the BP is great for pure-burn fights from DPS like Princes, MO, Cruor, and so on, because on those fights, that thing owns. I mean seriously getting 20-30 procs off that is just free extra damage is just, great.

[m0ya]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Schmoogles wrote:<BR> well imo I still think your a [Removed for Content] for going back to camp the mob in RoV.  For a 30 second buff that procs 50% with a 20 min cast timer on it to proc 150 damage. Yes I know what this BP does and I still think youra [Removed for Content] for getting it.  You can use this twice maybe three times per raids for a total of 1 min and 30 seconds.  To go camp a mob in a grey zone and have to mentor to get it I just think it's stupid and you must really suck if you are resorting back to T4 stuff with procs that actually work in order to increase your dps.  I know many scouts that can do sick dps with out this BP.   <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Bah.. anyway... who cares if you think I'm a [Removed for Content]... I got my BP now <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[AegisCrown]

<blockquote><hr>Schmoogles wrote:<div></div>well imo I still think your a [Removed for Content] for going back to camp the mob in RoV.  For a 30 second buff that procs 50% with a 20 min cast timer on it to proc 150 damage. Yes I know what this BP does and I still think youra [Removed for Content] for getting it.  You can use this twice maybe three times per raids for a total of 1 min and 30 seconds.  To go camp a mob in a grey zone and have to mentor to get it I just think it's stupid and you must really suck if you are resorting back to T4 stuff with procs that actually work in order to increase your dps.  I know many scouts that can do sick dps with out this BP.   <hr></blockquote>go play a scout on a raid and use this bp then review the parse dumb [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn].  you will cry when you see its potential. and for fights where the absolute burn is necessary you click everything you have this bp, the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ing crit shoulders from lyceum everything cause it all adds up.<div></div>

[Vorlak]

<P>I want to know why SoE out sourced to India...</P> <P>I had the same issue differnt GM on my sever, I was camping an item off the High Priest for a group member...</P> <P>Apparently its aginist the rules to camp an item until you get it.</P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by Vorlak on <span class=date_text>08-30-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:57 AM</span>

[Krontak]

ya know, I had heard about this thing but had forgotten about it a LOOONNNGGG time ago.  Is it !trade?

[IllusiveThoughts]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Vorlak wrote:<BR> <P>I want to know why SoE out sourced to India...</P> <P>I had the same issue differnt GM on my sever, I was camping an item off the High Priest for a group member...</P> <P>Apparently its aginist the rules to camp an item until you get it.</P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P> <P>Message Edited by Vorlak on <SPAN class=date_text>08-30-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>10:57 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>apparantly the gm is full of ****</P> <P>Its against the rules to grief other players.  and other players can mis-interpret a /say or /tell that your camping a mob as offensive, the old (there are no camps in eq2 argument)</P> <P>So they can report you under the gise that your greifing them and lie in the report.</P> <P>Camping mobs is what eq2 is all about, its needed for lots of quests, and camping a mob for an item is perfectly fine imho.</P>

[Pins]

<blockquote><hr>Krontak wrote:ya know, I had heard about this thing but had forgotten about it a LOOONNNGGG time ago.  Is it !trade?<hr></blockquote>Yes <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[martyn]

<DIV>LOL  someone is messing with ya   ALL  gms   have GM.    or CSR.  tags  with a . in the name so you can tell its not a player <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[AegisCrown]

<div><blockquote><hr>Krontak wrote:<div></div>ya know, I had heard about this thing but had forgotten about it a LOOONNNGGG time ago.  Is it !trade?<hr></blockquote>its no-trade so you have to loot it.</div>

[Timzil]

If I should come to need a level 35 piece of gear when I'm 70, someone please shoot me.

[Krontak]

I must have missed which NPC this pops off of!  <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[m0ya]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Timzilla wrote:<BR> If I should come to need a level 35 piece of gear when I'm 70, someone please shoot me.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>You can count on me! I'll do it <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Magic]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Timzilla wrote:<BR> If I should come to need a level 35 piece of gear when I'm 70, someone please shoot me.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>BANG!!!   :smileyvery-happy:<BR></P>

[Kyriel]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> martynpd wrote:<BR> <DIV>LOL  someone is messing with ya   ALL  gms   have GM.    or CSR.  tags  with a . in the name so you can tell its not a player <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>You're wrong.  Guides do not have it in their name. CSR's do.<p>Message Edited by Zemfira on <span class=date_text>08-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:22 PM</span>