Braegana the Gailspear - way too easy.

[Guy De Alsace]

This mob is just far too easy. Its a 25 Epic x2 and four of us took it just now. 24 Guard (MT in mastercrafted), 22 Guard (new player in tier 1 gear), 29 Dirge and 29 Templar (me mentored from 41). I only ran out of power towards the end of the battle. Both Guards died but the Dirge tanked it till it was dead. I know she only drops crap but she is embarrassing for an Epic. Definitely not worth the x2 tag. Be better if she was increased in toughness and given a better loot table IMO. <div></div>

[Pins]

<DIV>I'm confused.  Is this a troll post, or what?  Because just from reading it, I'm seeing, it's like you're complaing about a random epic mob that serves no purpose, except to be a guardian centaur.  Not all epics are supposed to be hard, nor are they all supposed to drop uber loot.  Also most Epicx2s are easily doable with less than a group.</DIV>

[Guy De Alsace]

Not a troll - just an observation. Since the con message comes out with "this is far harder than your random normal mob" nonsense and then you can take it with less that a full group at the right level. Kind of sends the wrong messages out to people in my opinion. None of us were raiders, we were just mind numbingly bored camping Bloodtalon for the 500th time and thought we'd try it. If Epics are supposed to be epic as SOE states they are then even the so called "trash" epics should require at least a full group to kill not just 4 ppl, one of which was still in tier 1 equipment! Needs looking at. <div></div>

[Devizi]

How about we worry about content people are actually doing...*cough* T7 *cough* <div></div>

[Methesa]

If he killed it at the correct lvl, that IS content people are DOING.

[littleman17]

<DIV>I know seriously. I am sick and tired of people coming into threads about below t7 stuff and saying that they aren't important... ALL content should be equaly important, with none getting more resources than any other (unless it is severely broken)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And as for not all epics being hard, then what is the point of them being epic?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I say that soe should install some sort of system that if you try and take on a green con or higher epic mob with less than the required number of people, the mob would stright out kill your group in one shot... or better yet, you would not be allowed to even engage it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But wait... wouldn't that make pretty much all pre t6 raid encounters undoable? Because as it stands, it is next to impossible to get enough people of the correct levels together fast enough to kill the mobs before they respawn. *cough* Grimfeather and his 10 minute up time *cough*</DIV>

[Devizi]

I'm just saying that content at a level cap should be far more important then stuff people level past in a few days.  No reason to get so upset. <div></div>

[Ishbu]

Lets see, this mob was never put in as a true epic/contested, just as a guard/quest mob.EDIT - Lets see here, based on your classes I could take a level 51 tank, and then 3 characters several levels higher than the mob, and if I can kill asphyxia in lavastorm with 4 its way too easy? Go fight that mob with your group all at the same level as the mob. I bet you lose since you said both guardians died anyways.<p>Message Edited by Ishboozor on <span class=date_text>08-07-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:57 AM</span>

[Guy De Alsace]

<blockquote><hr>Ishboozor wrote:Lets see, this mob was never put in as a true epic/contested, just as a guard/quest mob.EDIT - Lets see here, based on your classes I could take a level 51 tank, and then 3 characters several levels higher than the mob, and if I can kill asphyxia in lavastorm with 4 its way too easy? Go fight that mob with your group all at the same level as the mob. I bet you lose since you said both guardians died anyways.<p>Message Edited by Ishboozor on <span class="date_text">08-07-2006</span> <span class="time_text">06:57 AM</span></p><hr> Just a question - what do you mean by guard/quest mob? Braegana is a non-aggro centaur (well non aggro provided you havent called the leader of the centaurs the son of a hairy ape or something). Who just wanders around. As far as I know she isnt guarding anything or connected to a quest mob. Just one of the cast of epics that sometimes pop in TS. LIke Grimfeather, Cold Tooth and that big water blob thing. Maybe your right that 4 ppl all lvl 25 couldnt have done it...dunno but none of us were kitted in anything special. Even my mentored guy was using treasured for the most part. The MT (who was 1 lvl lower than the mob) had a few bits of steel armour on but nothing stunning. He only died when she was on like .01% hp. Still think she needs making into a decent mob instead of a mob nobody can be bothered killing. Old world zones are just as valid as new world - SOE agrees hence the overhauling of some old world zones. Just bringing to their attention that some work may need doing in TS and this mob needs some tweaking. </blockquote><div></div>

[Midsong]

<div></div>The 1 - 69 content is just as important as the 70 content to the game itself. The content leading up to the top end is what new people coming into the game must endure before they get to the top end. If new blood doesn't join the game and stick with it,  the game loses subscribership as the veteran players leave.Just because you went through the old content just fine doesn't mean it was done well or tolerable to the majority of MMO gamers.Oh...The encounter is fine I guess. It would be handy if only people of the right level and ground size were able to tackle named beast. But it would probably do more harm than good. It is hard enough trying to gather people at the lower levels to take on anything large at the right level.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Midsong on <span class=date_text>08-07-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:03 PM</span>

[Midsong]

levels go to fast, this wouldn't really help anything.<div></div>

[MystaSkrat]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Guy De Alsace wrote:<BR>I know she only drops crap but she is embarrassing for an Epic. Definitely not worth the x2 tag. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>How about the x4 mobs in Bonemire that can be one grouped <EM>and</EM> have some really good loot.  At least your encounter has the right risk/reward.