Fix the Three Princes encounter to reset instantly please.

[Aaliel Stonefists]

<DIV>That is some seriously lame crap.  Your guild works to take down two of the princes, and if you wipe a second guild can swoop in and finish off the encounter with one mob if they grab it before it resets, like what happened just now to us.  We pulled the encounter, killed two of the princes and wiped with the 3rd almost dead.  The same guild that pioneered "Death Cooridnation" then engaged the encounter with one prince left, finishing it off and getting the loot.  The same raiding guild that was trying so hard for game-wide recognition did not even wait for the encounter to reset to kill it properly.   The same guild that had threatened us not to use that "tactic" on other occassions when the encounter had spawned.  /clap /clap /clap.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So please change this encounter to reset or become unattackable as soon as it is broken and heading back to its spawn, because this is a little too lame to handle.  We left lyceum after triggering the lock out, but before killing the essence of fear, to come out and kill this encounter.  To have it taken from us in that manner, is pretty sickening.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Aaliel Stonefists on <span class=date_text>08-01-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:37 PM</span>

[MystaSkrat]

Yea, that's pretty weak.  They really should depop and repop as NPCs the second they break... no reason for them not to.

[Pins]

<DIV>Yep, they need to fix this.  Too many guilds are abusing this to steal the contested from other guilds after they wipe, and they take the easy way out.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Solution, after encounter breaks after it is triggered, force a reset after 30 seconds, even if the encounter is already engaged.</DIV>

[Shizzirri]

<DIV>Or just find away to keep them locked or unattackable.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>the encounter was made to be killed with all three princes at the same time, not one.  At least that's how it was when we killed it, its a great encounter but this is the one issue I have with it.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Shrug there's gotta be a way to keep the mobs locked or unattackable until it fully resets.</DIV>

[Riversideblues]

so, the only other guild i know of on the bazaar is EL.......i guess ganking contesteds could be a good way to chase down death co-ordination<div></div>

[Larrs]

Agreed this was pretty lame but not something that I did not expect from them.  Please fix this encounterBTW like my sig?<div></div>

[GimliidaWarri]

<DIV>They would definately be getting the Elrohn and Gloi salute as stated below.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>.<IMG src="http://eq2.ataxiareign.com/datas/users/16-gloi%20finger%20copy.gif"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://eq2.ataxiareign.com/datas/users/16-elrohn%20finger.gif"></DIV>

[RyanTSi]

they need to fix the same problem on MO also, wiped with 1 add left up and lost the chest to another guild.

[gnarkill]

thats pretty much the lamest thing I have ever heard of a guild doing...thank god i play on a pvp server and can just wipe another guild trying to do that..seriously though, thats messed up<div></div>

[Riversideblues]

<div><blockquote><hr>RyanTSi wrote:<div></div>they need to fix the same problem on MO also, wiped with 1 add left up and lost the chest to another guild.<hr></blockquote>did they actually keep the chest? i figured you could just petiton itstill, EL is mega legit now <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[Kazora]

<DIV>el can beat princes pretty easily, they might have pulled it early to make sure a 2ndrate guild didnt get another shot. cheap maybe but effective. its not like el cant beat princes blindfolded 2 months ago</DIV>

[MystaSkrat]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> rozakk wrote:<BR> <DIV> cheap maybe but effective.<BR> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Yep, definately cheap.  If you're going against a second rate guild, why the need to even be cheap about it? lol

[Kazora]

<DIV>idk, for me it'd depend on how long it takes princes to reset? If i had to sit there 5 minutes i'd be losing valuable sleep time. </DIV>

[PhalPhoto]

<div><blockquote><hr>rozakk wrote:<div></div> <div>el can beat princes pretty easily, they might have pulled it early to make sure a 2ndrate guild didnt get another shot. cheap maybe but effective. its not like el cant beat princes blindfolded 2 months ago</div><hr></blockquote>Yea, that's why they wiped before we pulled tonight...and wiped two weeks ago when we killed it?  Must have been the blindfolds...</div>

[RyanTSi]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Riversideblues wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> RyanTSi wrote:<BR> they need to fix the same problem on MO also, wiped with 1 add left up and lost the chest to another guild.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>did they actually keep the chest? i figured you could just petiton it<BR><BR>still, EL is mega legit now <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>yeah they kept it and it was petitioned, but of course nothing happened.

[eril416]

<P>Yes, please fix the encounter so that it resets instantly.  This way, when a guild fails and wipes against the encounter, another competing guild will not have to sit there waiting forever for it to reset.  After seeing Strixus the Wise standing solo for over 30 seconds straight and the other guild who just wiped to the encounter already fully rezzed and ready to pull the solo epic again, it was clear that something was wrong.  Usually when a raid wipes against the encounter there will be a couple seconds max before it resets.  Next time yell the encounter and it will reset immediately.  It's amazing how a brawler can FD/Cancel over and over again to prevent the encounter from fully resetting then come on here complaining when the mob gets ganked.  Post the fraps you claimed to have in /ooc so everybody can see.</P> <P> </P>

[Riversideblues]

<div><blockquote><hr>RyanTSi wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Riversideblues wrote: <div> <blockquote> <hr> RyanTSi wrote: <div></div>they need to fix the same problem on MO also, wiped with 1 add left up and lost the chest to another guild. <hr> </blockquote>did they actually keep the chest? i figured you could just petiton itstill, EL is mega legit now <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div> <hr> </blockquote>yeah they kept it and it was petitioned, but of course nothing happened.<hr></blockquote>that's when you run them off the server, i wish that happened to us almost, what would they get? 2 FT8 robes like last time?? <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[Lam Party]

<DIV> <P>i dont use this stuff enough to know how to quote cause im a noob....</P> <P>eril41686 said....</P> <P>     "Yes, please fix the encounter so that it resets instantly.  This way, when a guild fails and wipes against the encounter, another competing guild will not have to sit there waiting forever for it to reset.  After seeing Strixus the Wise standing solo for over 30 seconds straight and the other guild who just wiped to the encounter already fully rezzed and ready to pull the solo epic again, it was clear that something was wrong.  Usually when a raid wipes against the encounter there will be a couple seconds max before it resets.  Next time yell the encounter and it will reset immediately.  It's amazing how a brawler can FD/Cancel over and over again to prevent the encounter from fully resetting then come on here complaining when the mob gets ganked.  Post the fraps you claimed to have in /ooc so everybody can see."</P> <P>gonna disect this bit by bit cause there shouldnt be an EL posting on this to defend what happened.</P> <P>you say we failed and you had to sit there forever to wait for it to reset... when YOUR guild wiped to it cause one of ur members ran through it the encounter reset for us after we waited for it to so i dont know what crap you are talking about perhaps your concept of time is warped....</P> <P>after waiting 30 seconds for the mobs to finish killing our raid and getting back to its position? ya right... the correct thing to do would have been to petition the encounter and wait for it like you did with Ascent of the Awakened because at that point for you it was the "right thing to do"... please... you pulled it because there was one prince.</P> <P>next time yell the encounter and it will reset immediately.... why give you something new to petition us for some bull[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] like how you dont lock your encounters for hurricanus and somehow we exploit or maybe how when we killed princes we exploited and pulled hrm.....</P> <P>when in that encounter did our brawler fd/cancel over and over? was that when he was tanking the mob? or when he died? hrm... neither times make much sense do they? no, no they dont</P> <P>grats on ur kill tho... well deserved.... hey mind if i sit in on your next Dragon Turtle kill? thatd be awesome thx.... hypocrits</P></DIV>

[Snarks]

this can happen with any of the contested... if you wipe on MO with 1 add alive a monk can solo the last add out of raid and get a chest... effort vs reward ftw? please make encounters instantly reset, or reset after a set amount of time, like we saw in tier5 to prevent this very problem <div></div>

[Esar]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Aaliel Stonefists wrote:<BR> <DIV>That is some seriously lame crap.  Your guild works to take down two of the princes, and if you wipe a second guild can swoop in and finish off the encounter with one mob if they grab it before it resets, like what happened just now to us.  We pulled the encounter, killed two of the princes and wiped with the 3rd almost dead.  The same guild that pioneered "Death Cooridnation" then engaged the encounter with one prince left, finishing it off and getting the loot.  The same raiding guild that was trying so hard for game-wide recognition did not even wait for the encounter to reset to kill it properly.   The same guild that had threatened us not to use that "tactic" on other occassions when the encounter had spawned.  /clap /clap /clap.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So please change this encounter to reset or become unattackable as soon as it is broken and heading back to its spawn, because this is a little too lame to handle.  We left lyceum after triggering the lock out, but before killing the essence of fear, to come out and kill this encounter.  To have it taken from us in that manner, is pretty sickening.</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Aaliel Stonefists on <SPAN class=date_text>08-01-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>08:37 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Werent you guys the guild that kept on breaking mezzes on hurricanus from outside EL's raid?  So taking a raid mob when you wipe is not ok, but you guys exploiting and intentionally breaking mezzes on a locked encounter to wipe them is ok?  Dunno man... prob got what you guys deserved.<p>Message Edited by Esar on <span class=date_text>08-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:54 AM</span>

[Lam Party]

<P>explain to me how you would break mez on a locked encounter.... unless... the raid leader didnt lock his encounter but sure dont mention the part about training the encounter onto our raid.... thats cool too because you were there? ya...</P> <P>if you really wanna talk about hurricanus tho.... send me a tell at bazarr.Rlam and ill answer any question you have about that truthfully.... this isnt the place for it kthxbye.</P>

[Esar]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lam Party wrote:<BR> <P>explain to me how you would break mez on a locked encounter.... unless... the raid leader didnt lock his encounter but sure dont mention the part about training the encounter onto our raid.... thats cool too because you were there? ya...</P> <P>if you really wanna talk about hurricanus tho.... send me a tell at bazarr.Rlam and ill answer any question you have about that truthfully.... this isnt the place for it kthxbye.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>um yeah.. epic encounters have to be set on locked? ... yeah..  what ever... <P><SPAN class=time_text>thats why its called an exploit.  You're not suppose to be able to interfere with another raid's mob, but apparently you guys have... many times..</SPAN></P> <P>and for your info yes i was there... i got on my alt to watch.</P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text>well anyways i'm out.  </SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Esar on <span class=date_text>08-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:52 AM</span>

[Lam Party]

you seem to not have seen what happened if you were there.... yes the encounter is epicx2 but the adds that spawn are HEROIC!!! OMGOMG but you knew that because you were there right? and then if ur encounters arent locked on something that isnt part of the same encounter that spawns on somebody who is running back from killing a tower mob to get an orb... it would.... agro him? yes... yes i think it would. now no agro mobs cant attack if mezzed. he saw it come at him and before he knew it was mezzed he tossed a stun but you knew that... you were there... right? right... cool hope you come back to read this i know you have important things to do like get on your alt and watch EL kill contested.

[hanfr]

<DIV>@OP:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>/petition this and the guy who pulled will get perma-banned b/c it's agaings the EULA. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Things can be so easy <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(at least it should work like that)</DIV><p>Message Edited by hanfred on <span class=date_text>08-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:57 AM</span>

[Esar]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lam Party wrote:<BR> you seem to not have seen what happened if you were there.... yes the encounter is epicx2 but the adds that spawn are HEROIC!!! OMGOMG but you knew that because you were there right? and then if ur encounters arent locked on something that isnt part of the same encounter that spawns on somebody who is running back from killing a tower mob to get an orb... it would.... agro him? yes... yes i think it would. now no agro mobs cant attack if mezzed. he saw it come at him and before he knew it was mezzed he tossed a stun but you knew that... you were there... right? right... cool hope you come back to read this i know you have important things to do like get on your alt and watch EL kill contested.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>haha can you be more stupid?  hurricanus is groupx4 mob.  ALSO if you didnt know noob... the add droag spawns locked.  They used to not spawn locked like um.... back in march, but thats long been fixed.  The droags SPAWNED LOCKED to the raid that has hurricanus engaged.  It does not matter if you have encounters locked.  Right click the droag and then they rushed locked.....  Just shows how much you know about the encounter.  Keep on yapping noob.  </P> <P>HOWEVER, THAT BEING SAID i'm not talking about the droags.  When i was there one of your guild member was breaking the drake GROUPED in the same encounter as hurricanus.  EL is not a guild to wipe to hurricanus.  People can kill hurricanus with 2 groups.  Sadly they kept on wiping b/c you guys kept on getting in the way and waking up the drakes.</P><p>Message Edited by Esar on <span class=date_text>08-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:01 AM</span>

[Luca Blight]

<DIV>oooo i would just like to point out when my guild was accused of actually bugging the mob on purpose to do this as a tactic. For all you esp on my server that talked trash fu. This is a code prob, not a so called exploit that happened to us also.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Overall it was a sucky deal and trust me i know how you feel except i was in the role of the guild that did the work and killed 2 of the princes. Everyone can sit here and say, oh my guild would wait for a gm blah blah blah. But you have no control of the other said guilds/raid forces that eyes are more hungry to see that there is 1 mob up and its not reseting. Things happen one second your at full hp's and i'm sure there was a whole lotta people there watching so the button lag was in effect. Some of you bashing them probably get to fight all your contested mobs 90% of the time withought the competition of other raids there that can seriously put in some work on the encounters.</DIV>

[Shizzirri]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Esar wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>haha can you be more stupid?  hurricanus is groupx4 mob.  ALSO if you didnt know noob... the add droag spawns locked.  They used to not spawn locked like um.... back in march, but thats long been fixed.  The droags SPAWNED LOCKED to the raid that has hurricanus engaged.  It does not matter if you have encounters locked.  Right click the droag and then they rushed locked.....  Just shows how much you know about the encounter.  Keep on yapping noob.  </P> <P>HOWEVER, THAT BEING SAID i'm not talking about the droags.  When i was there one of your guild member was breaking the drake GROUPED in the same encounter as hurricanus.  EL is not a guild to wipe to hurricanus.  People can kill hurricanus with 2 groups.  Sadly they kept on wiping b/c you guys kept on getting in the way and waking up the drakes.</P> <P>Message Edited by Esar on <SPAN class=date_text>08-02-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>06:01 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>You must be thinking of a different EL because the EL I know still wipes to stuff like Vyemm, High priest, and heck even the ghazi cube.  They kept wiping because they added a bunch of noobs from random guilds to fill up slots in their raid (probably as a sorry attempt to prevent us from getting a pull), but that has nothing to do with this topic so quit bringing it up noob, either way the GM's basically laughed at their petitions.</P> <P>Eitherway back on topic the point of the post is EL getting a metal chest for killing ONE prince, not THREE.  Is the encounter not called three princes?  Maybe you should of watched what happened on your alt last night at three princes...</P>

[Sanju]

Weak sauce. All you can really do is petition and petition again. They can pull the logs and see that the other guild only killed one mob for the chest if they want. Any guild that would pull a single raid mob (that was part of an encounter) for a chest is pathetic.Whatever happened to the "if you don't let the encounter fully reset you will more than likely get a wooden chest" code? That would have shown them. They could have still pulled the mob to be a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] and not let you have it, but at least they'd only get a woodie out of it.<div></div>

[Quicksilver74]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Shizzirri wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>the EL I know still wipes to stuff like Vyemm, High priest, and heck even the ghazi cube.  </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>ROFLOCOPTER!!!

[Esar]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Shizzirri wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Esar wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>haha can you be more stupid?  hurricanus is groupx4 mob.  ALSO if you didnt know noob... the add droag spawns locked.  They used to not spawn locked like um.... back in march, but thats long been fixed.  The droags SPAWNED LOCKED to the raid that has hurricanus engaged.  It does not matter if you have encounters locked.  Right click the droag and then they rushed locked.....  Just shows how much you know about the encounter.  Keep on yapping noob.  </P> <P>HOWEVER, THAT BEING SAID i'm not talking about the droags.  When i was there one of your guild member was breaking the drake GROUPED in the same encounter as hurricanus.  EL is not a guild to wipe to hurricanus.  People can kill hurricanus with 2 groups.  Sadly they kept on wiping b/c you guys kept on getting in the way and waking up the drakes.</P> <P>Message Edited by Esar on <SPAN class=date_text>08-02-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>06:01 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>You must be thinking of a different EL because the EL I know still wipes to stuff like Vyemm, High priest, and heck even the ghazi cube.  They kept wiping because they added a bunch of noobs from random guilds to fill up slots in their raid (probably as a sorry attempt to prevent us from getting a pull), but that has nothing to do with this topic so quit bringing it up noob, either way the GM's basically laughed at their petitions.</P> <P>Eitherway back on topic the point of the post is EL getting a metal chest for killing ONE prince, not THREE.  Is the encounter not called three princes?  Maybe you should of watched what happened on your alt last night at three princes...</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Werent you the one that called Eternal Chaos a noob guild and made that dumb cartoon?  Lol...  Reality check... maybe you should make sure your members know how the Hurricanus encounter works before calling other guilds noobs.</P> <P>Yeah so what, EL killed 1 prince got your metal chest,  You guys exploited, got in the way of their hurricanus kill and you got their metal chest.  Seems like EL got the better end of the deal since Prince loot > Hurricanus loot. :smileyhappy: So karma is nice.  <BR></P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by Esar on <span class=date_text>08-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:47 AM</span>

[Lyrus]

This whole ordeal resembles the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] that a certain guild on permafrost pulled. Very much so weak.<div></div>

[eril416]

<DIV>Shizzirri are you gonna post that fraps?  EL did not "want" to kill just one Prince, they wanted the encounter to fully reset and fight it normal.  We have known a long time about this bug ( remember when you first tried doing it to us months ago? ) but agreed that we would not pull a partial encounter because it's lame.  However, after watching you guys wipe and still manage to keep the non-engaged solo epic prince ( strixus the wise ) frozen without resetting, what other choice was there for us?  You seriously think we were going to send in a petition?  All I know is that with these contested encounters once a raid wipes, it's the other guild's turn.  However, you bugged the encounter so that it would not fully reset for an extended amount of time even after you wiped.  There is no way in hell that you should be able to recover from the wipe in the amount of time it takes the encounter to reset ... that would take away the "contesetd" factor.  Like I said, yell on the encounter next time, it will fully reset the encounter and prevent this from happening again in the future.</DIV>

[Sanju]

So you knew it was bugged ... knew it was lame ... and pulled the lame bugged single prince and got his loot anyway.Yeah, that makes it sound much better.<div></div>

[Ishbu]

The only thing I can think of lamer than this is death coordination..Oh wait that was the same guild.The encounter will reset if you give it a minute or two. If the other raid wiped there is no way they were going to get rezzed up and engage and kill it before it reset.Engaging and encounter that has not resest is lame. Engaging an encounter that has not reset from another guild's attempt is even more lame.Its honestly sad that FoH had the MO stolen from them because of something like this. It is sad that Dark Horizons had the 3princes stolen from them because of something like this.Seriously EL, was it not enough that everyone was already laughing at you for considering zerging to be an uber tactic? Did you really need to add this on the list of things to laugh at you for being pathetic? Gonna start calling you a SEE El. Its a combination of Chaotic Legion(CL) and Ethereal Legacy (EL). Both pathetic, sad, have to resort to joke/border line exploitive tactics. Lol.

[pebyr]

<div></div><div></div>On the hurricanus mez breaking incident.  People were telling us to move back, and I remember the person in question going, "why the hell is that one locked on me?".  It was bizaare in that it was the only one that was conning grey out of the whole bunch.  We didn't know for sure what went on, until EL started going on about mez breaking.  TBH, we were so sure that raid encounters auto locked that it took awhile to figure out anything was wrong.  Once the mob is locked on you, just how does a templar shed that?  If he threw a stun at it, what do you expect people to do when something is attacking?  OMG, how dare you try not to die!  Besides this was an additional mob that had spawned when they were already in trouble.  By the time that encounter spawns additional drakes, you are in trouble anyways. As far as the princes are concerned, I only know that we came really close and wiped on the last mob.  We were all so busy trying to revive and get back, that I dont see how we could have locked the encounter.  Even if we did by accident, come on, 30 seconds?  Give me a break.  That's nothing, and could easily be an accident.  Besides, how could we have exploited/locked the encounter, if you were able to pull and kill the single prince.  We sat for 10 minutes one time watching EL lock cyenadros in sanctum.  How the hell can 30 seconds be called an exploit?  As is normal, we dont find out about it being an "exploit" until much later when EL is either complaining that they didn't get the contested or defending themselves.  The fact that they pulled the single mob sucked, but what I am  most annoyed about is that they got the full metal chest for killing one mob.  I dont notice them defending that.  Go ahead and show the fraps, i'm sure that unlike DH, u have fraps running everytime we're there, so you can petition in case we beat the mob.  Because of course nobody else could ever take a contested away from you legitimately.  BTW, did you have fraps running for your turtle fight?  I'd like to see that one.  I think we could use a tutorial on death coordination...<div></div><p>Message Edited by pebyr on <span class="date_text">08-02-2006</span> <span class="time_text">08:09 AM</span></p><p>Message Edited by pebyr on <span class=date_text>08-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:12 AM</span>

[Quicksilver74]

<P>Hey Ishbu, first off I respect you, because I like most of your posts...   but your only seeing one side of the story.   I'm not going to even bother with my side because peopel on the forums love drama, and people are gonna believe what they are gonna believe no matter what.  </P> <P>That being said....  I can assure you that you will see the light eventually.  It's only a matter of time before we own your guild.  how many of yoru members have transferred to the bazaar now?  Maybe you should transfer your entire guild here so we can trade pulls on contested and we can own you.   and you can watch DH constantly activate princes, chaining activation until they are ready to pull....  and various other "Borderline exploitave" tactics.   My Favorite was when they were Call of Hero'ing people from our raid to them.... that was classic.  </P>

[MystaSkrat]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Quicksilver74 wrote:<BR> <P>That being said....  I can assure you that you will see the light eventually.  It's only a matter of time before we own your guild.  how many of yoru members have transferred to the bazaar now? </P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Don't like drama but you spout this crap?  You'll own our guild on total deaths, that's for sure.

[pebyr]

You know, i thought CoH only worked on raid/group members.  That combined with the fact that all you have to do is decline to not be CoH'd, makes me wonder how that is an exploite.  OMG, the tank just declined a CoH.  We're all gonna die!!!   We didn't even know that was even possible.  We were grateful to know that, since it goes against the reading of the spell.  Hopefully the dev's have fixed that bug, because though its not exploitive, its probably annoying.News Flash!  Dark Horizon successfully kills a contested mob.  It must be an exploit!  Hold on, i'm searching the logs and the fraps!  OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG, that guy was wearing white boots after labor day.  EXPLOIT!<div></div>

[Ishbu]

Ok actually I had a big old response written up to you Crabbok, but most of that was pointless. The bottom line is you wouldnt own us because while your zerging encounters and watching DH pull princes, we kill it with 3 groups or less. But anyways on to the real point...Whats your side of the story? Honsetly, all Im hearing is that you watched DH wipe and then engaged the princes before they reset so you only had to fight one. Is that true or not?

[MeridianR]

<div><blockquote><hr>pebyr wrote: that guy was wearing white boots after labor day.  EXPLOIT!<div></div><hr></blockquote>Ok for some reason I am really cracking up about that...lol, ah I must be tired <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[Slygr]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MystaSkratch wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Quicksilver74 wrote:<BR> <P>That being said....  I can assure you that you will see the light eventually.  It's only a matter of time before we own your guild.  how many of yoru members have transferred to the bazaar now? </P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Don't like drama but you spout this crap?  You'll own our guild on total deaths, that's for sure.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I think he means "own" as in <STRONG><U>purchase when your people who leave the game transfer to SE to sell their characters</U></STRONG>.  </P> <P>A lot of people can see right now <STRONG>the second main tank you guys have lost in one expansion</STRONG> - anyone can dig out several more examples if needed of people from your guild (and other top guilds) of transferring and selling.  </P> <P>Or just outright illegally buying a dirge and being next to worthless on raids if you guys don't ever revive, lol... by the way, if any of your people died while fighting chel'drak, was revived or clicked revive, then used their power book from the claymore line (or even so much as paused to regen a little power) then guess what - you [Removed for Content] zerged chel'drak also.  There is more than one strategy than simply throwing DPS at the mob and burning it down - you're just [Removed for Content] because you can't do the same thing, you ONLY know how to dps burn.</P> <P>Last week you bashed NPU and SD, this week you whine about EL, who's next?  I predict that whoever kills Matron before you guys is your next target.</P> <P> </P>

[Quicksilver74]

<DIV>I own EVERYONE on total deaths.   Dissolution has got some issues with calling our strats lame.   In reality it doesn't matter if you think the way we kill it is "Lame" or not.   It can't be that lame if it works.  </DIV>

[MystaSkrat]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Slygrey wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I think he means "own" as in <STRONG><U>purchase when your people who leave the game transfer to SE to sell their characters</U></STRONG>. </P> <P>Or just outright illegally buying a dirge and being next to worthless on raids if you guys don't ever revive, lol... by the way, if any of your people died while fighting chel'drak, was revived or clicked revive, then used their power book from the claymore line (or even so much as paused to regen a little power) then guess what - you [Removed for Content] zerged chel'drak also.  There is more than one strategy than simply throwing DPS at the mob and burning it down - you're just [Removed for Content] because you can't do the same thing, you ONLY know how to dps burn.</P> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>So, you mean our uberly geared characters go to SE where you take advantage of the fact they can buy it?  Awesome.</P> <P>And nope, we don't die on Chaldrak, we found out how to kill him <EM>without </EM>suicide.<BR></P>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Quicksilver74 wrote:<BR> <P>It's only a matter of time before we own your guild.  how many of yoru members have transferred to the bazaar now?  <FONT color=#ffff00>None.  Ex-members maybe, but no members.  Oh and its just thier toon, not the player.  I for one will never transfer Gaige or Refrain there, because even under a different name I'd be embarassed for him to be in your weak sauce guild that does crap like this.</FONT></P> <P>Maybe you should transfer your entire guild here so we can trade pulls on contested and we can own you.  <FONT color=#ffff00>Doubtful.  Since it apparantly takes you three weeks to kill an encounter we kill on the first pull.</FONT></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>

[Slygr]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MystaSkratch wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Slygrey wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I think he means "own" as in <STRONG><U>purchase when your people who leave the game transfer to SE to sell their characters</U></STRONG>. </P> <P>Or just outright illegally buying a dirge and being next to worthless on raids if you guys don't ever revive, lol... by the way, if any of your people died while fighting chel'drak, was revived or clicked revive, then used their power book from the claymore line (or even so much as paused to regen a little power) then guess what - you [Removed for Content] zerged chel'drak also.  There is more than one strategy than simply throwing DPS at the mob and burning it down - you're just [Removed for Content] because you can't do the same thing, you ONLY know how to dps burn.</P> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>So, you mean our uberly geared characters go to SE where you take advantage of the fact they can buy it?  Awesome.</P> <P>And nope, we don't die on Chaldrak, we found out how to kill him <EM>without </EM>suicide.<BR></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Naw, the farmers buy your characters.  It's pretty funny to see your uber geared farmers continuously killing in an obvious bot group, lol.</P> <P>So you didn't have anyone die at all on Chel'drak? Not even by accident? what an ignorant claim.</P> <P> </P>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Slygrey wrote:<BR> <BR> <P>So you didn't have anyone die at all on Chel'drak? Not even by accident? what an ignorant claim.</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Not on purpose.  If they die then we rez them.</P> <P>There is a difference you know.</P> <P>Then again we don't need to make people die on purpose and revive, because we kill the mob in about 6 mins, not 23.  Just another way we're better than you.</P> <P>Speaking of Chel'Drak, rumor has it the encounter is changing to be more like Venekor - if you revive you're stuck in the ZI tunnel until your raid wipes.  Man, that would suck for you guys, eh?<BR></P>

[Quicksilver74]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Ishboozor wrote:<BR>Ok actually I had a big old response written up to you Crabbok, but most of that was pointless. The bottom line is you wouldnt own us because while your zerging encounters and watching DH pull princes, we kill it with 3 groups or less. But anyways on to the real point...<BR><BR>Whats your side of the story? Honsetly, all Im hearing is that you watched DH wipe and then engaged the princes before they reset so you only had to fight one. Is that true or not?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Yup we sure did.  I didn't see it for myself (Graphics were down ultra low), but the word was they had a guy Feigned Death at the last mob, and somehow that was preventing the reset, or at least prolonging it.   I've watched this encounter reset many times, and this time it was not resetting when it should have.  In fact DH had 15 people already back at the isle and were almost ready to pull again, so it was either us or them that was going to get a pull on the last mob.  </P> <P>I don't care if you think it's lame or not.   Personally I'm not "Proud" of that pull.  I take no pride in killing only one prince, but it wouldn't reset, so we had little choice.  DH is a pretty good guild, with a few amazing players.   They have killed the encounter before, and almost had it last night.  I give them props.   However, We have killed the encounter every time it's been up except for the one time DH beat us to it.  So it's not a question of weather or not we could kill it, because clearly it's a fairly easy encounter once you know what your doing.   </P> <P> </P> <P>   But keep using keywords like "zerging" and other cheap shots if you want, regardless of how innacurate they are.   Whatever makes you sleep better at night.  </P>

[Ishbu]

<blockquote><hr>Slygrey wrote:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE><HR>MystaSkratch wrote:<BR><BR><BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Quicksilver74 wrote:<BR><P>That being said....  I can assure you that you will see the light eventually.  It's only a matter of time before we own your guild.  how many of yoru members have transferred to the bazaar now? </P><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Don't like drama but you spout this crap?  You'll own our guild on total deaths, that's for sure.<BR><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I think he means "own" as in <STRONG><U>purchase when your people who leave the game transfer to SE to sell their characters</U></STRONG>.  </P><P>A lot of people can see right now <STRONG>the second main tank you guys have lost in one expansion</STRONG> - anyone can dig out several more examples if needed of people from your guild (and other top guilds) of transferring and selling.  </P><P>Or just outright illegally buying a dirge and being next to worthless on raids if you guys don't ever revive, lol... by the way, if any of your people died while fighting chel'drak, was revived or clicked revive, then used their power book from the claymore line (or even so much as paused to regen a little power) then guess what - you [Removed for Content] zerged chel'drak also.  There is more than one strategy than simply throwing DPS at the mob and burning it down - you're just [Removed for Content] because you can't do the same thing, you ONLY know how to dps burn.</P><P>Last week you bashed NPU and SD, this week you whine about EL, who's next?  I predict that whoever kills Matron before you guys is your next target.</P><P> </P><hr></blockquote>Hmm thats interesting, I dont remember bashing second dawn by name. I remember saying beta testing shouldnt happen by whole guilds and it is an advantage regardless of what people want to say, but I dont remember bashing second dawn or saying they suck. Why are you trying to put words in our mouths?Lol wait a minute, who the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] are you? Wait, nobody cares. Sorry for asking because I sure as hell dont. Your just another one of those bandwagon guys with no name that dont matter. You obviously dont understand death coordination or how sad it is. EVERYONE ive talked to has agreed its a pathetic strat and EVERYONE ive talked to agree'd that not letting an encounter rest is pathetic, but you dont even see that, your just here to try and make friends in other guilds by hating us (the trendy thing to do). Fortunately enough people try that on our own boards and you know what? NPU, and the other guilds your trying to make like you, think as little of you as we do. Must hurt feeling the need to voice your opinion for the whopping third time only to find out that it doesnt matter to us, them, or anyone. In short, you dont matter. If you died tomorow, nobody here would care.

[MystaSkrat]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Slygrey wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>So you didn't have anyone die at all on Chel'drak? Not even by accident? what an ignorant claim.</P> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P> </P> <P> I honestly don't think anyone died on Chal'Drak last time we killed him.  Whose the ignorant one, the guy claiming to know what happened, or the one that was actually there and knows?<BR></P>

[Pins]

<blockquote><hr>Slygrey wrote:<BR>A bunch of stuff<hr></blockquote>Hey swyft, did you find that getting banned from our forums twice was too much for you?

[TheNewJaco]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Ishboozor wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Slygrey wrote:<BR> <BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <HR> <BR>MystaSkratch wrote:<BR><BR> <BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <HR> <BR>Quicksilver74 wrote:<BR><BR> <BR> <P>That being said....  I can assure you that you will see the light eventually.  It's only a matter of time before we own your guild.  how many of yoru members have transferred to the bazaar now? </P><BR> <HR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Don't like drama but you spout this crap?  You'll own our guild on total deaths, that's for sure.<BR><BR> <HR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>I think he means "own" as in <STRONG><U>purchase when your people who leave the game transfer to SE to sell their characters</U></STRONG>. </P><BR> <P>A lot of people can see right now <STRONG>the second main tank you guys have lost in one expansion</STRONG> - anyone can dig out several more examples if needed of people from your guild (and other top guilds) of transferring and selling. </P><BR> <P>Or just outright illegally buying a dirge and being next to worthless on raids if you guys don't ever revive, lol... by the way, if any of your people died while fighting chel'drak, was revived or clicked revive, then used their power book from the claymore line (or even so much as paused to regen a little power) then guess what - you [Removed for Content] zerged chel'drak also.  There is more than one strategy than simply throwing DPS at the mob and burning it down - you're just [Removed for Content] because you can't do the same thing, you ONLY know how to dps burn.</P><BR> <P>Last week you bashed NPU and SD, this week you whine about EL, who's next?  I predict that whoever kills Matron before you guys is your next target.</P><BR> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR>Hmm thats interesting, I dont remember bashing second dawn by name. I remember saying beta testing shouldnt happen by whole guilds and it is an advantage regardless of what people want to say, but I dont remember bashing second dawn or saying they suck. Why are you trying to put words in our mouths?<BR><BR>Lol wait a minute, who the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] are you? Wait, nobody cares. Sorry for asking because I sure as hell dont. Your just another one of those bandwagon guys with no name that dont matter. You obviously dont understand death coordination or how sad it is. EVERYONE ive talked to has agreed its a pathetic strat and EVERYONE ive talked to agree'd that not letting an encounter rest is pathetic, but you dont even see that, your just here to try and make friends in other guilds by hating us (the trendy thing to do). Fortunately enough people try that on our own boards and you know what? NPU, and the other guilds your trying to make like you, think as little of you as we do.<BR><BR>Must hurt feeling the need to voice your opinion for the whopping third time only to find out that it doesnt matter to us, them, or anyone. In short, you dont matter. If you died tomorow, nobody here would care.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>You don't even care who he/she is and you make a whole dog and pony show about him! Trying to explain things to a nobody !</DIV>

[Slygr]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gaige wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Quicksilver74 wrote:<BR> <P>It's only a matter of time before we own your guild.  how many of yoru members have transferred to the bazaar now?  <FONT color=#ffff00>None.  Ex-members maybe, but no members.  Oh and its just thier toon, not the player.  I for one will never transfer Gaige or Refrain there, because even under a different name I'd be embarassed for him to be in your weak sauce guild that does crap like this.</FONT></P> <P>Maybe you should transfer your entire guild here so we can trade pulls on contested and we can own you.  <FONT color=#ffff00>Doubtful.  Since it apparantly takes you three weeks to kill an encounter we kill on the first pull.</FONT></P> <HR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Ex-members? You've had both of your main tanks transfer and sell this expansion - you're splitting hairs by calling them 'ex-members' - there were others as well.  If someone goes directly from being a member of your guild, transferring to SE and selling, they were members of disso that end up being owned on Bazaar.  </P> <P><STRONG>And looking at their roster, which toon in EL is a former disso toon?</STRONG></P> <P>Again, there is more than one strategy than dps burn - you can kill rats using poison or you can use a bazooka and burn the house down; either way the rat is dead, [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] cares what method killed it? </P> <P>You guys wouldn't be half so [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]y about this whole thing if you'd been third and EL had been fourth in kill-list.  </P> <P><BR> </P>

[Ishbu]

<blockquote><hr>Quicksilver74 wrote:<div></div>But keep using keywords like "zerging" and other cheap shots if you want, regardless of how innacurate they are.   Whatever makes you sleep better at night. <hr></blockquote>Maybe tell your guild leader not to tell the whole world that you zerg encounters if you dont want people to use the word "zerging". Its completely accurate as described by your guild leader!Its like when Chaotic Legion exploited the MO. They certantly didnt find a thread discussion how to kill the MO and say, oh this is what we do. We take a coercer and use possesion on an add so that we only have to kill one add and we get the chest like we killed the entire encounter. If they had, it would be similar to what Kalidon did with your zerg strat. Its stupid to let everyone know that you have to resort to that.

[Ratty31]

Gonna throw this out there and pretty sure i'm right cause i'm always right.. Noone in EQ2 rezz's anyone when they die in chel'draks zone..NOONE!

[Quicksilver74]

Gaige you crack me up.  I know yoru an intelligent guy, and thats what makes it so funny when you say the most ignorant stuff.  Like you have any right to talk about my guild when you been kicked out of so many, and had to buy a dirge on another server.  How does SoE feel about that anyway?

[Ishbu]

Lol is that warren? I bet it is. Hi Warren!And to that other guy....look at my post history, I make posts about everything.EDIT - I should add, no member of Disso is in EL. A character might be but thats only because EL plays on a special rules server where that is possible. Its certantly not played by anyone from our guild. Lol though, do you think we care that people have quit the game that used to be in our guild? Find me a high end guild that didnt have someone quit the game during KoS. And Crabbok - you do realize gaige didnt buy that dirge dont you? See we dont play on a special rules server where people need to buy accounts. Its not allowed here.<p>Message Edited by Ishboozor on <span class=date_text>08-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:01 AM</span>

[MystaSkrat]

I know this probably pisses you off, but you're never going to get the respect you want, because you're on a SE server... I doubt that's ever going to change.

[Pins]

<blockquote><hr>Slygrey wrote:<BR><P>Ex-members? You've had both of your main tanks transfer and sell this expansion - you're splitting hairs by calling them 'ex-members' - there were others as well.  If someone goes directly from being a member of your guild, transferring to SE and selling, they were members of disso that end up being owned on Bazaar.  </P><P><STRONG>And looking at their roster, which toon in EL is a former disso toon?</STRONG></P><P>Again, there is more than one strategy than dps burn - you can kill rats using poison or you can use a bazooka and burn the house down; either way the rat is dead, [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] cares what method killed it? </P><P>You guys wouldn't be half so [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]y about this whole thing if you'd been third and EL had been fourth in kill-list.  </P><P><BR> </P><hr></blockquote>Let's see, or you could kill rats with a knife using brute force DPS, and focus on killing the target, not the entire area. Focused DPS on a target is a lot different than DPS thrown about in many different directions. We use Focused DPS, not random-[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ty DPS.

[Slygr]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gaige wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Slygrey wrote:<BR> <BR> <P>So you didn't have anyone die at all on Chel'drak? Not even by accident? what an ignorant claim.</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Not on purpose.  If they die then we rez them.</P> <P>There is a difference you know.</P> <P>Then again we don't need to make people die on purpose and revive, because we kill the mob in about 6 mins, not 23.  Just another way we're better than you.</P> <P>Speaking of Chel'Drak, rumor has it the encounter is changing to be more like Venekor - if you revive you're stuck in the ZI tunnel until your raid wipes.  Man, that would suck for you guys, eh?<BR></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>If after being rezzed they use their power book from the claymore line, you did the exact same thing EL did - upon death, you regained power - accidental death or otherwise.</P> <P> </P>

[ProphecyCT]

<div><blockquote><hr>MystaSkratch wrote:<div></div>I know this probably pisses you off, but you're never going to get the respect you want, because you're on a SE server... I doubt that's ever going to change.<hr></blockquote>Probably because all the decked out characters end up there.  No matter how you look at it, exchange servers will never be at par.  They get influxes on geared out characters while other servers lose them.  Let's not also forget it's free to transfer to exchange server.</div>

[Quicksilver74]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MystaSkratch wrote:<BR> I know this probably pisses you off, but you're never going to get the respect you want, because you're on a SE server... I doubt that's ever going to change.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>We have plenty of respect.  I get people sending me tells all day telling me how much they wanna be a sexy ogre like me. 

[MystaSkrat]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Quicksilver74 wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MystaSkratch wrote:<BR> I know this probably pisses you off, but you're never going to get the respect you want, because you're on a SE server... I doubt that's ever going to change.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>We have plenty of respect.  I get people sending me tells all day telling me how much they wanna be a sexy ogre like me. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>That's just cuz you're an ogre though!

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Slygrey wrote: <P>Ex-members? You've had both of your main tanks transfer and sell this expansion - you're splitting hairs by calling them 'ex-members' - there were others as well.  <FONT color=#ffff00>Hey smart guy, if someone removes themselves from the guild, they become an ex-member.  A previous member.  They used to be a member.  How hard is that concept to grasp?</FONT></P> <P>If someone goes directly from being a member of your guild, transferring to SE and selling, they were members of disso that end up being owned on Bazaar.  <FONT color=#ffff00>No, they are former members of Disso, whose toons are owned on the bazaar.</FONT></P> <P><STRONG>And looking at their roster, which toon in EL is a former disso toon?</STRONG>  <FONT color=#ffff00>Your mom <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></FONT></P> <P>Again, there is more than one strategy than dps burn - you can kill rats using poison or you can use a bazooka and burn the house down; either way the rat is dead, [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] cares what method killed it?  <FONT color=#ffff00>Killing one prince isn't strategy, its an exploit.  Zerging the turtle so you can take 30mins fighting it while it complete heals because your raid can't kill the shadowy adds is super heterosexually challenged, if not an outright exploit.</FONT></P> <P>You guys wouldn't be half so [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]y about this whole thing if you'd been third and EL had been fourth in kill-list.  <FONT color=#ffff00>Oh noes, they beat us by like 2 hours or something.  Who cares.  We got it the same day.  If 10 guilds kill something they same day its hard pressed to say which one of the 10 is "better" since they're all obviously capable of killing the mob.</FONT></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>

[Sanju]

<div><blockquote><hr>Quicksilver74 wrote:<p>I don't care if you think it's lame or not.   Personally I'm not "Proud" of that pull.  I take no pride in killing only one prince, but it wouldn't reset, so we had little choice.  </p><hr></blockquote>Of course you had a choice. You could have chosen to wait for it to reset. You didn't, because you were afraid that if you did, another guild would either a) be a complete [Removed for Content] loser and pull the single mob or b) reform, wait for the respawn, then pull the princes before you could engage and kill them in your face.Rather than wait to see if the other guild decided to be a lame, [Removed for Content], complete pathetic joke by pulling the single mob -- you did it yourself. Grats!</div>

[Quicksilver74]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MystaSkratch wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Quicksilver74 wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MystaSkratch wrote:<BR> I know this probably pisses you off, but you're never going to get the respect you want, because you're on a SE server... I doubt that's ever going to change.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>We have plenty of respect.  I get people sending me tells all day telling me how much they wanna be a sexy ogre like me. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>That's just cuz you're an ogre though!<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>It's not just that, it's the fact that I know how to dress for success.   Christmas outfit all year round will get you lots of love.  </DIV>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Quicksilver74 wrote:<BR> Gaige you crack me up.  I know yoru an intelligent guy, and thats what makes it so funny when you say the most ignorant stuff.  Like you have any right to talk about my guild when you been kicked out of so many, and had to buy a dirge on another server.  How does SoE feel about that anyway?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Kicked out?  I left FoH and Amend on my own.  If that equates to being kicked out where you're from, then I suppose its time for your mom to go get her elementary certificate and then continue your home schooling.</P> <P>As for buying my dirge?  I did?  I didn't realize I did.  I'm sure you can prove that right?  Or are you just saying that?  You know I didn't realize people were only allowed to play one toon on one server at a time?</P> <P>Interesting.</P> <P>As for how SOE feels about it, they probably think its awesome, since they think I'm awesome.  Besides if they don't like it they won't tell me because I'm sensitive and they care about my feelings.</P> <P>I'm glad to see your post wasn't totally worthless though - you were right about me being an intelligent guy.  Shouldn't be hard to figure out though, since I'm the polar opposite of your guild leader.<BR></P>

[Slygr]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Ishboozor wrote:<BR><BR><BR>Hmm thats interesting, I dont remember bashing second dawn by name. I remember saying beta testing shouldnt happen by whole guilds and it is an advantage regardless of what people want to say, but I dont remember bashing second dawn or saying they suck. Why are you trying to put words in our mouths?<BR><BR>Lol wait a minute, who the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] are you? Wait, nobody cares. Sorry for asking because I sure as hell dont. Your just another one of those bandwagon guys with no name that dont matter. You obviously dont understand death coordination or how sad it is. EVERYONE ive talked to has agreed its a pathetic strat and EVERYONE ive talked to agree'd that not letting an encounter rest is pathetic, but you dont even see that, your just here to try and make friends in other guilds by hating us (the trendy thing to do). Fortunately enough people try that on our own boards and you know what? NPU, and the other guilds your trying to make like you, think as little of you as we do. <BR><BR>Must hurt feeling the need to voice your opinion for the whopping third time only to find out that it doesnt matter to us, them, or anyone. In short, you dont matter. If you died tomorow, nobody here would care.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>[Removed for Content] - I don't matter, exactly. I'm just the little voice piping up with common sense that must really be setting you off if you go on the personal attack this early.  Impressive, but overused.  Throw your weight around of your many posts, you talk to EVERYONE about EVERYTHING and you whine even more.  If you can't debate in a logical format then retreat into overwhelming with manpower and pointing out the other person's shortcomings.</P> <P>You said at one point (that I know of, maybe more I'm guessing) that you were quitting game becuase you were so fed up with the BS - I believe it was in the Haraghur being changed thread.  What a happy day it would have been for the forums if you had actually followed through instead of being the lying bully that you are.  </P> <P>If I died tomorrow no one would dance on my grave and /point /laugh either.  Me = no one but Ishbu = arrogant bully</P> <P><BR> </P>

[Quicksilver74]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sanju wrote:<BR> <DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Quicksilver74 wrote: <P>I don't care if you think it's lame or not.   Personally I'm not "Proud" of that pull.  I take no pride in killing only one prince, but it wouldn't reset, so we had little choice.  </P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Of course you had a choice. You could have chosen to wait for it to reset. You didn't, because you were afraid that if you did, another guild would either a) be a complete [Removed for Content] loser and pull the single mob or b) reform, wait for the respawn, then pull the princes before you could engage and kill them in your face.<BR><BR>Rather than wait to see if the other guild decided to be a lame, [Removed for Content], complete pathetic joke by pulling the single mob -- you did it yourself. Grats!<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>well when you put it that way... yes.   if someone on the server is gonna get gimped out loot it's gonna be ME!   After all, I'm from Freeport.   I'm totally allowed to do evil stuff like that.  Qeynos people on the other hand have a higher standard. 

[StarryEyedElf]

<P>Annnnnnnnnnnnd this thread is done.</P> <P>Talk about the topic, not each other. Not everything has to turn into an ego contest.</P>