The Mother !!

[Ratty31]

<DIV>Also known as the Matron is one tough encounter, boy i'll tell you what.. Anyways fell free to discuss how hard it is or talk about Chel'drak and starcraft. DDT POWERS ACTIVATE!!!! form of: Entertainment!</DIV>

[vinterskugge]

<DIV>Has anyone been able to confirm it breaks if pulled to the revive point?</DIV>

[Schmoogles]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> vinterskugge wrote:<BR> <DIV>Has anyone been able to confirm it breaks if pulled to the revive point?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>lol no but it's an idea that we have not tried....

[Pitt Hammerfi]

i smell a zerg coming on

[MystaSkrat]

<P>It's not called zerging.</P> <P>And [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn],  this thread isn't nearly as big a hit as the other one! :smileytongue:</P><p>Message Edited by MystaSkratch on <span class=date_text>07-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:14 PM</span>

[Xede]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Pitt Hammerfist wrote:<BR>i smell a zerg coming on<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>ITS CALLED DEATH COORDINATION!

[kyth]

    Could someone please enlighten me on this "Death Coordination" stuff?  I seem to be in the dark.<div></div>

[Xede]

just go to our website...we have an update all about it.

[Scow]

<DIV>Incoming lock... <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Sanju]

I soloed the Brood Mother and the Oak Matriarch all the time at level 50 on my Troub. I don't really see what the big deal is ... <div></div>

[kyth]

    Wow it's bind zerging for eq2!! awsome.<div></div>

[Gaige]

<P>I heard Kalidon isn't getting into the EQ2 Hall of Fame because the voters view Death Coordination as the "weak sauce".  Seriously.  I saw Ozzie Smith talking about it on ESPN2 and he afterall is a wizard.  </P> <P>...</P> <P>Seriously.</P>

[Scow]

<P>I think you have your channels messed up.  They only play that on "The Ocho" ESPN8</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[Gloveba]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Scowiii wrote:<BR> <P>I think you have your channels messed up.  They only play that on "The Ocho" ESPN8</P> <P> </P> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Yup he's right...I saw it mentioned in Obscure Sports Quarterly lol

[Shizzirri]

<P>Well Kalidon was always telling us about how he wanted to put bazaar on the map gg dude you did it, and you did it the exact way I thought you would <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P> </P>

[Quicksilver74]

<DIV>There is another term called "Rivarly Exxageration".   Guilds tend to exxagerate topics about other guilds, especially if they have some sort of beef with them.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>    We have a few peopel die on Cheldrak.   (By a few I mean like 3 or 4).  This gets exxagerated to say we are Zerging.   Thats the way these threads work.  Someone complains about it, and I say they are jealous and crying....  same deal.  It's not a big deal though because it doesn't matter what you guys think of us, or us of you...   Because we still gonna kill stuff, and so are you.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>the Truth however, is that we worked very hard on Chel'Drak.  Believe it or not we did.  we tried a few new ideas, but at no time did we Zerg that mob.   However, the truth is boring and doesn't make for entertaining threads, so I'm gonna type some funny stuff in bold for you guys to flame!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=4>ZOMG YOU GUYS ARE SO JEALOUS!  QUIT CRYING!!!!   NEWBS!!!!!</FONT></STRONG></DIV>

[Pins]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Quicksilver74 wrote:<BR> <DIV>There is another term called "Rivarly Exxageration".   Guilds tend to exxagerate topics about other guilds, especially if they have some sort of beef with them.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>    We have a few peopel die on Cheldrak.   (By a few I mean like 3 or 4).  This gets exxagerated to say we are Zerging.   Thats the way these threads work.  Someone complains about it, and I say they are jealous and crying....  same deal.  It's not a big deal though because it doesn't matter what you guys think of us, or us of you...   Because we still gonna kill stuff, and so are you.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>the Truth however, is that we worked very hard on Chel'Drak.  Believe it or not we did.  we tried a few new ideas, but at no time did we Zerg that mob.   However, the truth is boring and doesn't make for entertaining threads, so I'm gonna type some funny stuff in bold for you guys to flame!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=4>ZOMG YOU GUYS ARE SO JEALOUS!  QUIT CRYING!!!!   NEWBS!!!!!</FONT></STRONG></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>So, if you didn't zerg Chel'Drak, then why did you have people die on purpose and hit the revive button, rather than getting a res?

[Quicksilver74]

<DIV>because reviving gives you full power.  We had very few people actually do this though.   Certainly not enough to warrant the term "Zerg".  </DIV>

[Esar]

<DIV>So what? who cares... its done and over with and over argued.  Stop bringing it up again and again.  They killed cheldrak thats all that matters.  They were 3rd WW to kill it.  Gratz.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So can we talk about something else like the matron?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by Esar on <span class=date_text>08-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:56 AM</span>

[Quicksilver74]

<DIV>I used to think that if you charmed the green triple up named dryad and brought her to the matron fight that she might have some scripted text and debuff the matron... because when you hail her sometimes she says "Don't let her defile the ring!"</DIV>

[Gaige]

What they need to do is put the mystic lake revive spot in the druid ring...

[Quicksilver74]

<P>ZOMG that would OWN!   Gaige is the smartest person in the world!   </P>

[thebigtime]

<div></div>I would like to inform everyone that I am no longer in treasured gear, that I popped my nemesis cherry ( legendary still counts =/ ), and that Ishbu is a behemoth. In short, it was a day of epic proportions.

[Quicksilver74]

Anarke is the best assasin Worldwide.. and he will kill the matron with a 50 million point decapitate. 

[Straylig]

I don't see how a few people revving and running back constitutes zerging. If this encounter is going badly, and the guild can't get the job done the 'right' way, I don't see how zerging could ensure success.

[MystaSkrat]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Quicksilver74 wrote:<BR> Anarke is the best assasin Worldwide.. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Ok, that made me laugh pretty hard! :smileyhappy:

[J4k]

<DIV>ROFLCOPTER!!LOLLERCOASTER!!!! e-thug fo sho</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Whys the best assassin world wide watching us kill the princes encounter on his lvl 2 alt is the question! the only question! MY QUESTION!</DIV>

[MystaSkrat]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> J4kik wrote: <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Whys the best assassin world wide watching us kill the princes encounter on his lvl 2 alt is the question! the only question! MY QUESTION!</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>He wasn't :smileywink:

[Quicksilver74]

he's bored.   Wanted to see if you guys were good I think. 

[thebigtime]

<div></div>Please Dragorn, before you come to the forums do us all a favor and get a clue. mmk?

[Scarrlette]

Is there a point to this thread, or is this just a lot of cyber flexing of the gamer muscles (if there is such a thing)?

[MystaSkrat]

<P>/flex</P> <P>jk don't lock it and we'll return it to it's original purpose of ... whatever it was :smileytongue:</P>

[KrayzieK]

<P>Yes, we would like to furtherly discuss The Direvine Matron encounter.  Seeing as this thread has already been derailed, let's try to get it back on track.</P> <P> </P> <P>How many people really agree that the "crit changes" that may or may not take place in LU26 is all the attention that this encounter needs?  I don't think anybody is even close to beating it right now; alot of people agree that it is "possible" in it's current state but luck is too big of a factor.  Why should a raid have to kill the first two epic mobs every single time in order to advance to the third mob?  In my opinion the first two mobs are nothing but a huge time-sink.  The Direvine Matron is definitely tough, but the first 2 encounters before her are unneccesary.  All they are doing really is preventing guilds from getting true practice against the mob.  Nobody wants to sit there for hours on end a night spending 95% of that total time on the first 2 mobs.  I think they add minimal difficulty to the encounter, sure, people need to conserve power during them ( which makes the fights even longer ) but that's pretty much it.  Other than that what are they there for?  They definitely don't add any true difficulty to the encounter as a whole other than the fact that it is all one big transition and the risk of someone going LD.  That right there is the most difficult part of those mobs ... fight them for however long and hope nobody goes LD during that time.</P> <P> </P> <P>Anyways, that's just my opinion.  I'm glad that she is truly challenging but I don't think this mob is being fought nearly enough simply because people are discouraged to waste so much time on a luck of the draw encounter.</P>

[MystaSkrat]

Here's what I think they should do about the first two mobs: each one drops a no zone item that lets you pass it in the ring event.  That means you only have to fight them every time you need to repair or something.  I think that would be tolerable.  As far as she goes, I think the crits will help, but her adds still cause a lot of pain with their AEs.  I'm in a mainly DPS oriented guild, and even we have doubt about having the DPS to burn down adds every 30 seconds, that stun or stifle you, while avoiding the matron's AEs, and DPSing her inbetween adds.  I'm sure sooner or later one of any number of guilds will pull it off after she can't crit, guess we'll see.

[Riversideblues]

<div><blockquote><hr>MystaSkratch wrote:<div></div>Here's what I think they should do about the first two mobs: each one drops a no zone item that lets you pass it in the ring event.  That means you only have to fight them every time you need to repair or something.  I think that would be tolerable.  As far as she goes, I think the crits will help, but her adds still cause a lot of pain with their AEs.  I'm in a mainly DPS oriented guild, and even we have doubt about having the DPS to burn down adds every 30 seconds, that stun or stifle you, while avoiding the matron's AEs, and DPSing her inbetween adds.  I'm sure sooner or later one of any number of guilds will pull it off after she can't crit, guess we'll see.<hr></blockquote>frankly, i love the no-zone idea of something that lets you pass the first 2but really, i would much rather a headache than a pushover, so keep her mega hard</div>

[Ishbu]

<blockquote><hr>KrayzieKal wrote:<P>ZEEEERRRRRRRRRGGGGGGG!</P><hr></blockquote>EDIT - Oh and I would love to know how the following direct quote would be misinterpreted:"I'll clarify HOW we were able to manage a 20+ minute fight against Chel'Drak. It's called death coordination. Healer A, you are low on power, commit suicide. Tank A you are out of power, commit suicide." - KalidonBTW, anyone else find it funny that a matter of hours after EL has to steal the princes from another guild they have 2 of their members make newbs on our server to come watch us kill them? Only explanation I see is they wanted to see how to do it without having another guild kill 2 of the princes for them.<p>Message Edited by Ishboozor on <span class=date_text>08-03-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:48 AM</span>

[Kaiser Sigma]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Scarrlette wrote:<BR> Is there a point to this thread, or is this just a lot of cyber flexing of the gamer muscles (if there is such a thing)?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>This post just owned.<BR>

[Scarrlette]

<P>*nukes thread*</P> <P>It had to be done.</P>