Rocks in the waterfall

[swang]

Why, for the love of all that's holy, did you stick ROCKS in the waterfall on TT?  So I just spent 10 minutes in this place, died 4 times, and logged back out, I was so frustrated.1st time followed the curve of the waterfall down.  splat.  rocks at the bottom of the waterfall.Revive. 2nd time, went foward a little (to the SE).  Splat.  other rock.Revive. 3rd time, went to the left to avoid them.  Splat.  Landed in water too shallow for safety.Revive. 4th time, Went to the left and back a little, to give me more room.  Splat. didn't go far enough, hit the other rock.I just lost 12 gold or so from repairs and 1.2% in xp debt because of those [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] rocks.I hate the rocks.-Stormwolf.<div></div>

[Magu]

Get better at jumping? Even with the rocks, it's VERY easy to drop into the LARGE open non-rock area.<div></div>

[justright]

aye got to keep some degree of challenge, dont you think? <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span><div></div>

[Dravendar]

<span><blockquote><hr>swang wrote:Why, for the love of all that's holy, did you stick ROCKS in the waterfall on TT?  So I just spent 10 minutes in this place, died 4 times, and logged back out, I was so frustrated.1st time followed the curve of the waterfall down.  splat.  rocks at the bottom of the waterfall.Revive. 2nd time, went foward a little (to the SE).  Splat.  other rock.Revive. 3rd time, went to the left to avoid them.  Splat.  Landed in water too shallow for safety.Revive. 4th time, Went to the left and back a little, to give me more room.  Splat. didn't go far enough, hit the other rock.I just lost 12 gold or so from repairs and 1.2% in xp debt because of those [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] rocks.I hate the rocks.-Stormwolf.<div></div><hr></blockquote>This is what pisses me off about the majority of people.  Learn to play your character.  Adjust to your environment.  Stop whining about stupid stuff and deal with it.  I have jumped off that waterfall many, many times and have yet to die once.  Games require a degree of skill.  Go get some. </span><div></div>

[swang]

<span><blockquote><hr>turbomeister wrote:<span>This is what pisses me off about the majority of people.  Learn to play your character.  Adjust to your environment.  Stop whining about stupid stuff and deal with it.  I have jumped off that waterfall many, many times and have yet to die once.  Games require a degree of skill.  Go get some. </span><div></div><hr></blockquote></span>Some people don't have the machines to see where the rocks are in relation to you until it gets too close.  But then, I guess I'm just not leet enough.  Oh, so sorry, wrong spelling. 1337.  No, I just grinded to level 60 with no skilz, and I get pwned by the environment. lololololol.Was that what you were looking for?  [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] newb, and post in a thread where someone cares.-Stormwolf<div></div>

[Supernova17]

<div></div><span><blockquote><hr>swang wrote:<span></span><font color="#ffff00">Some people don't have the machines to see where the rocks are in relation to you until it gets too close.</font>  But then, I guess I'm just not leet enough.  Oh, so sorry, wrong spelling. 1337.  <font color="#66ff00">No, I just grinded to level 60 with no skilz</font>, and I get pwned by the environment. lololololol.Was that what you were looking for?  [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] newb, and post in a thread where someone cares.-Stormwolf<div></div><hr></blockquote><font color="#ffff00">The rocks can be seen even at Extreme Performance. If your system is incapable of even playing at Extreme Performance, you are disregarding the reccomended minimum hardware requirements, and thus is the EQ2 team is not at fault.<font color="#66ff00"></font><font color="#66ff00">Botters get to level 60 with horrible gear, top deaths on the server etc as do people who I will never group with ever again due to their complete lack of knowledge concerning their class abilities or basic grouping. </font></font></span><div></div><p>Message Edited by Supernova17 on <span class="date_text">03-05-2006</span><span class="time_text">12:33 AM</span></p>

[Nilgiris]

For an absolute challenge, try grouping with a Mystic and having them cast Water Spirit just before you jump. I challenge anyone to survive even if they do hit water :p<div></div>

[Atmosphear1993]

<div></div><div></div><p>Sounds like the OPs only intent is to troll his own thread.  Sorry, if your computer can't handle the game engine, then you need to upgrade your computer.</p><p>Landing in the water is very easy to do, you have plenty of time to dodge the rocks.  If you're not seeing the rocks until the last few seconds, it sounds like the environment is loading too slow for your computer.</p><p>It is rather pointless making a thread on this subject since I very much doubt the game environment will be altered because of computers that can't handle the environment.</p><p>Message Edited by Atmosphear1993 on <span class="date_text">03-05-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:35 AM</span></p>

[Chog]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Nilgiris wrote:For an absolute challenge, try grouping with a Mystic and having them cast Water Spirit just before you jump. I challenge anyone to survive even if they do hit water :p<div></div><hr></blockquote>I will take that challange.  As long as the Mystic jumps first...

[Karlen]

I died the first few times that I tried it, but it was more from forgetting to turn off water spirit than anything else.Make sure you jump in first-person mode and it actually isn't very hard to do.Does anyone know: if someone in a group that has a mystic who has cast Water Spirit jumps while the mystic does not, do they get out of range of the Water Spirit spell before they hit the bottom?<div></div>

[Sunlei]

<div></div><p> While I agree asking the developers to remove rocks is not gonna happen...that jump is frustrating for some.</p><p>I have to admit, I've tried and tried that waterfall jump with several different characters and never made it once.</p><p>I must be such the [Removed for Content] or am making some mistake I can't see or understand:smileyvery-happy:</p><p>I have a decent computer and lags not much of a problem at all.  Must be at 50-80 deaths over several characters. I do use first person view and have tried jumping from the falls rocks, the plank and lots of spots in between.</p><p>One thing it could be is I don't use the aswd keys to move. I'm a left handed mouser and use the arrow keys,pg up/down or mouse movement, for all movement been used to that way for years <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>oh well, guess that waterfall jumps not gonna happen for me. Every few weeks I'll throw myself over the falls and try again..but not anytime soon, I've given up for the month <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>~everqimp never made the fall once</p>

[Karlen]

>>>I have to admit, I've tried and tried that waterfall jump with several different characters and never made it once.<<<In case it helps, here is what I do:1.  Turn off Water Spirit.2.  Change to first person view.3. Go to the middle of the waterfall and walk straight off the cliff.4.  Use pagedown (or is it pageup?) to roll my view so I am staring straight down.5.  Tap the down arrow a couple of times (no more than three) as I drop to keep from overshooting the pool.I will usually land between the rocks in the middle and the far edge of the pool. NOTE: It doesn't seem to matter if I am on my horse or not.<div></div>

[KBern]

<div></div><p>LOL Even on extreme performance these are easy to see.</p><p>Drop off and keep camera looking down.</p><p>You can stear VERY easily...just strafe left or right as you fall and your are fine.</p><p>Pretend you are playing Tetris lol</p>

[Signal9]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Zotar99 wrote:>>>I have to admit, I've tried and tried that waterfall jump with several different characters and never made it once.<<<In case it helps, here is what I do:1.  Turn off Water Spirit.2.  Change to first person view.3. Go to the middle of the waterfall and walk straight off the cliff.4.  Use pagedown (or is it pageup?) to roll my view so I am staring straight down.5.  Tap the down arrow a couple of times (no more than three) as I drop to keep from overshooting the pool.I will usually land between the rocks in the middle and the far edge of the pool. NOTE: It doesn't seem to matter if I am on my horse or not.<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>This works almost everytime.  I have gotten up-close, and personal with those rocks a few times, and it is frustrating, but I land safely the majority of the time.</p><p>Just remember, when you do hit the rocks, announce the following in /gu or on our voice-chat:</p><p> </p><p>4.7 from the East German judge.</p>

[Jonaroth]

<div>I never hit rocks, I do back flips and am blindflded the entire way. Stop [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]in and learn how to jump</div>

[KBern]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Jonaroth wrote:<div>I never hit rocks, I do back flips and am blindflded the entire way. Stop [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]in and learn how to jump</div><hr></blockquote>ROFL :smileyvery-happy:

[Jal]

It really isnt that hard to dodge them, just go as close to the edge as you can look directly down and walk off the edge, you get plenty of time to manouvre yourself to the safe spot.

[vinterskugge]

<div>The trick is to aim for the water and not the rocks.</div>

[curtlewis]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Supernova17 wrote:<div></div><span><font color="#ffff00">The rocks can be seen even at Extreme Performance. If your system is incapable of even playing at Extreme Performance, you are disregarding the reccomended minimum hardware requirements, and thus is the EQ2 team is not at fault.</font></span><hr></blockquote>You're making a big assumption that just because his machine doesn't play at an acceptable performance level that it fails to meet the minimum requirements.What I consider acceptable performance is 24fps in the most extreme situation.  All you have to do is go to Qeynos Harbor and it'll bring SLI systems below that.</span></div>

[Karlen]

>>>The trick is to aim for the water and not the rocks.<<<If your aim is really bad and this doesn't work, then try aiming for the rocks.  When you miss those, you will hit the water.<div></div>

[vinterskugge]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>curtlewis wrote:<div><span>What I consider acceptable performance is 24fps in the most extreme situation.  All you have to do is go to Qeynos Harbor and it'll bring SLI systems below that.</span></div><hr></blockquote>Good thing that there's no waterfalls in Qeynos Harbor then.

[Huna]

<div></div>I always use 3rd person and put the camera above me so I'm looking straight down at my head.  Then I just run and jump off and hope I can correct it enough to hit some water.  I've missed a couple of times, but that's what makes it fun for me.  Sometimes I wait until I've already jumped to move the camera, and then try to aim my character, just for the hell of it. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Jonaroth]

<span><blockquote><hr>vinterskugge wrote:<div>The trick is to aim for the water and not the rocks.</div><hr></blockquote>LOL aye</span><div></div>

[HawaiianBl]

<div></div><div>For those of you that can't hit the water you should of played a Bruiser.  My bruiser friend hit dry land his first 3 jumps and didn't die (he has safefall maxed out)!  It's hard to believe people can't figure out how to hit the water every time by now</div>

[FieryFurnace]

<div></div>Get naked before you jump if you find that you die a lot jumping here. No point in damaging your gear.

[Karlen]

<font color="#ffff00">Get naked before you jump if you find that you die a lot jumping here. No point in damaging your gear.<font color="#ccffff">There is a mender at the bottom, but good advice.</font></font><div></div>

[Stryyfe]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>swang wrote:Why, for the love of all that's holy, did you stick ROCKS in the waterfall on TT?  So I just spent 10 minutes in this place, died 4 times, and logged back out, I was so frustrated.1st time followed the curve of the waterfall down.  splat.  rocks at the bottom of the waterfall.Revive. 2nd time, went foward a little (to the SE).  Splat.  other rock.Revive. 3rd time, went to the left to avoid them.  Splat.  Landed in water too shallow for safety.Revive. 4th time, Went to the left and back a little, to give me more room.  Splat. didn't go far enough, hit the other rock.I just lost 12 gold or so from repairs and 1.2% in xp debt because of those [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] rocks.I hate the rocks.-Stormwolf.<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!</p><p>Control your fall, and inspect the area down there after your first splat.  It's easy to direct your fall!</p>

[vinterskugge]

<div></div><div>I'm surprised that people are so bad at jumping.  I don't even stand at the edge or look down to time my jump, i just jump when I'm roughly in the area.  It's so easy to adjust your fall in midair.  I've only died once, and that's when I wasn't paying attention and missed the island altogether.</div><p>Message Edited by vinterskugge on <span class="date_text">03-08-2006</span><span class="time_text">10:02 PM</span></p>

[Delandr]

Aye...I really don't understand the problem...I have yet to miss this jump and make it all the time. Adjust your fall midflight and aim for the water.<div></div>

[Belizarius]

<div></div>Bah.  I vote we hire a team of Gnome engineers and get them to blast those silly rocks to smithereens.

[kenm]

<div></div><div>Your character can illogically move in different directions while in the air, so even if you overshoot it by an incredible amount you can just hold back and make it into the water... so how in the hell can anyone miss the water while they're trying?</div><div> </div><div>When I read about the jump before I got KoS I figured it'd be a fall about three times as long and have much less water, so it'd actually be somewhat challenging.  When I got to KoS and blindly jumped off and managed to move around while falling and land in the water I was quite disappointed by how incredibly easy it was to make it.</div>

[SGho]

A lot of it for me is lag.  I jump, I see where I need to go, I tap my 'forward' or 'backward' key...and nothing happens.  Then just before I hit, I suddenly shift too far one way or the other and there isn't time to compensate.Doesn't happen all the time, but with no instancing on the really crowded servers, this jump can be a nightmare.<div></div>

[The-Fourm-Pirate]

<div></div>I've jumped 50+ times down that fall and only died once, because I got cocky and tried to go off on a horse, it was hard to see what was below me so I clipped a rock and died.

[Signal9]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Zotar99 wrote:<font color="#ffff00">Get naked before you jump if you find that you die a lot jumping here. No point in damaging your gear.<font color="#ccffff">There is a mender at the bottom, but good advice.</font></font><div></div><hr></blockquote>Folks should be nekkid before they go swimming anyway :smileywink: