Righto enough is enough, fix the Criktna in PPR !!!

[Pitt Hammerfi]

<DIV>how can you let a bug like this exist, please fix the problem, If you dont know how to fix it remove the bloody mob altogether, its stopping 24 people from progressing into poets palace return</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also on another subject, these rings of the djinn that drop randomly, why do some guilds get the priveledge of receiving this ring, while other do not ?  if this is based on luck its a fairly sick joke, we could go through this zone all year and still not get one.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>well weve been into poets 5 times now, still no ring</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>sorry to sound so scathing, but look at it from our point of view, takes alot of organization to get 24 people together, for what ?  a bugged mob that prevents progress.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Pitt Hammerfist on <span class=date_text>01-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:41 AM</span>

[Pins]

<DIV>If you can't kill Cirktna without a ring, how do you expect to progress further in the zone anyway?  The mob is not bugged.  It is quite easy to kill without the ring if you know what you're doing, and even easier with the ring.</DIV>

[64gigaby]

**REMOVED DUE TO INAPPROPRIATE CONTENT**<p>Message Edited by Raijinn Thunderguard on <span class=date_text>01-03-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:13 PM</span>

[Gaellen]

Fix what bug? If you mean the 2minute reset thing, that's not just her, it happens all over the place.  <span>:smileyindifferent:</span> <div></div>

[Named]

<DIV>Cirktna is one of the easiest named in there. If you're having problems with him, then even having a ring won't save you on the third floor.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Oh yeah, what bug?</DIV><p>Message Edited by Named88 on <span class=date_text>01-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:45 PM</span>

[Sarkoris]

<DIV>At what point did he say he was having problems defeating the mob. He said the mob was bugged. This would mean it is doing something outside of the game mechanics, therefore delaying progress.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There is no need to talk down to someone for highlighting a possible error with a mob, when a simple post supporting or negating the bug issue would be more appropriate. If your guild can pass the mob, all well and good. If others can't due to lack of expertise or a flawed strategy, thats fine as well, they will get there eventually.  But if they are unable to progress due to mob warping, reseting or any of the other bugs currently being fixed in the game, your "You are not ready" type posts achieve little.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sark.</DIV>

[Pins]

<DIV>He never explains to us what the bug is either.  So what are we supposed to think?</DIV>

[Sarkoris]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Pinski wrote:<BR> <DIV>He never explains to us what the bug is either.  So what are we supposed to think?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Hmm - let me think. That is a hard one. That the mob is bugged is my thoughts. Seriously, what the type of bug is irrelevant if the mob is bugged, its bugged. If its not, its not. A simple, we defeated this mob on this date and it seemed okay to us would be fine rather than all this negative attutude posting.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Having reread your intial post Pinski, I was not aiming my comments at you. You did exactly as I would of expected from some people, a simple "We can defeat it and the mob doesn't appear to be bugged comment. Its the naysayers that appear in most posts with nothing more constructive than you suck type posts that sadden me.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Yes I am in the OP's guild, but I was not on the raid in question so I can't shed any more light on what bug they encountered but will endevour to fond out. I assure you while not being the most hard core raiding guild out there we are by no means idiots. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sark.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Sarkoris on <span class=date_text>01-03-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:56 AM</span>

[AzraelAzgard]

<DIV>It'll be the classic encounter resetting over and over bug.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Happens with mobs that have adds.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And its easy to control and stop happening if you kill the encounter a certain way, your healers just have to do more work for longer <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Pitt Hammerfi]

<DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by Pitt Hammerfist on <span class=date_text>01-05-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:09 AM</span>

[ChaosUndivided]

<DIV>You still havent told us how it's bugged.</DIV>

[Snarks]

prolly reset bug <div></div>

[Lleinen]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Pitt Hammerfist wrote:<BR> <DIV>basically what anyone else in this thread says is irrelevant, this is a message to the DEVS to fix a bugged mob</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i dont care if you have to stand on one hand chanting hari krishna backwards to defeat this mob, the point is its bugged.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Well your posting on public forums something that should be in a bug report then, for none of us to see, and comming to the forums means you want public attention brought to your topic, but...yah still havent even told us what your problem is with the mob?</P> <P>You cant kill it without a ring?</P> <P>or</P> <P>You are getting the reset bug?</P>

[Pitt Hammerfi]

<DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by Pitt Hammerfist on <span class=date_text>01-05-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:09 AM</span>

[Lleinen]

<DIV>Guess ill take it that you suck and cant kill the entire encounter without a ring so you wipe after killing some adds and then the mob does the 2 minute respawn bug to stop you from progressing thru the zone, which sucks, so yah, leave it at a bug report if you dont want anyone else to comment on your topic =)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I guess you just peaked everyones natural curiousity by saying "bug" and you refuse to say what, so it drives some people to ask what you mean, because it may have happend to them and they may be able to help you, and you return and tell us to [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] off basically, very nice <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Snarks]

move along trolls? [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] <div></div>

[Pitt Hammerfi]

<DIV><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </DIV><p>Message Edited by Pitt Hammerfist on <span class=date_text>01-05-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:09 AM</span>

[onimarox]

<DIV>We killed the mob the other day and had no problems with the mob resetting. I do however know if you are having problems with this mob you are going to have problems with the 3rd and 4th floor.</DIV>

[BBouch]

<div></div>No point having multiple threads for same thing. Refer to : <a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=combat&message.id=87639" target=_blank> http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=combat&message.id=87639</a> <div></div><p>Message Edited by BBoucher on <span class=date_text>01-03-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:38 AM</span>

[Pins]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Pitt Hammerfist wrote:<BR> <DIV>like i said, post for the devs.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>edit : but thankyou for keeping this post at the top of the forum <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <P>Message Edited by Pitt Hammerfist on <SPAN class=date_text>01-02-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>10:21 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>You know, if you post things like ATTN: DEV blah blah, the devs will ignore them purposefully, right?  Or do you not read the forums much?  And if you want the devs to know about the bug, you do /bug, not come to the forums, and expect people not to reply to you.</DIV>

[Pitt Hammerfi]

<DIV><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </DIV><p>Message Edited by Pitt Hammerfist on <span class=date_text>01-05-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:10 AM</span>

[Lleinen]

<P>you're too slow jack</P> <P><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=combat&message.id=87639" target=_blank><FONT color=#ffcc33>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=combat&message.id=87639</FONT></A></P>

[Anoixia]

<P>well...</P> <P>have not killed Criktna yet (strats are not quite there yet but next raid there I think we will do it :smileyhappy<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />, I did not notice any problems with a reset bug or any bugginess for that matter, maybe we were just lucky but we did many attempts, just a tough fight (for some) especially lacking a ring (although I fully agree it can be done without one).</P>

[Pitt Hammerfi]

<DIV><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </DIV><p>Message Edited by Pitt Hammerfist on <span class=date_text>01-05-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:10 AM</span>

[Kyriel]

<P>**REMOVED DUE TO INAPPROPRIATE CONTENT**</P><p>Message Edited by Raijinn Thunderguard on <span class=date_text>01-10-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:33 PM</span>

[Pitt Hammerfi]

<DIV><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </DIV><p>Message Edited by Pitt Hammerfist on <span class=date_text>01-05-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:08 AM</span>

[megatra]

<DIV>err.. you can beat him without the ring.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[roarfrost]

<div></div><span><blockquote><hr>Pinski wrote: <blockquote><hr>You know, if you post things like ATTN: DEV blah blah, the devs will ignore them purposefully, right?  Or do you not read the forums much?  And if you want the devs to know about the bug, you do /bug, not come to the forums, and expect people not to reply to you.</blockquote> <hr></blockquote> So they say. But in reality, that is not true. I have seen many Devs reply to threads with "Devs" or even their screen names in the title. I have even seen Devs respond to threads immediately, saying "I'll take a look at it this morning". Sometimes, the bugs are then promptly fixed by the next patch. On the other hand, I suspect that the in-game /bug reports go to some ungodly large log file somewhere that no one of any importance ever sees. </span><div></div>

[Jora']

<DIV>We have been in PP return twice, dropped Criktna 2nd time in, without a ring.  Haven't seen any bugs yet tho.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Maybe you guys won't get the bug if you change your strat.   With ours we dont even see a bug</DIV>

[Pitt Hammerfi]

<DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by Pitt Hammerfist on <span class=date_text>01-05-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:08 AM</span>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Pitt Hammerfist wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR>ahh well, no harm in making 2 posts, hell ill make 50 more if the problem isnt fixed</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Nice.  Then, after that, you'll be banned and you can complain about this known issue somewhere else.  Since its obvious there are multiple threads about this issue already.</P> <P>Ciriktna is very beatable by the way, without the ring.<BR></P>

[Pitt Hammerfi]

<DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by Pitt Hammerfist on <span class=date_text>01-05-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:09 AM</span>

[Swishwah]

<P>Hi all.</P> <P>I am an officer in the OP's guild and have been on the raids where the mobs have become bugged with the reset bug.  Yes it is very annoying but I'm sure with the right tactics we will be able to finally beat Criktna even without a ring.</P> <P>Thank you to those who have stated/acknowledged this is a bug.  I guess it has become quite frustrating to many of us, hence Pitty's post.  My appologies to those who may have been offended by this post, but I also hope you don't take this personnally as I'm sure a lot of this has been posted in the 'heat of the moment' so to speak.</P> <P>Thank you to those who have posted constructive posts.</P> <P>Good luck and happy hunting!</P> <P>Swishy</P>