Is it possible to raise my faction with Court of AlAfaz??

[OneBadAli]

<DIV>Discuss....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Tanit]

Haven't found a way yet. I suppose it's intentional to make it harder after clearing it a few times.<div></div>

[JoarAddam]

<DIV>Killing naga in PoF increases your faction in court</DIV>

[OneBadAli]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> JoarAddam wrote:<BR> <DIV>Killing naga in PoF increases your faction in court</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Woot, TY!</P> <P> </P>

[Magu]

To find out in the future, just look at the faction messages <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> When you kill a faction mob, you get messages about each faction modified. Ex: Your faction standing with A has gotten worse. Your faction standing with B has gotten better. So to raise faction with A, kill mobs of B. <div></div>

[TunaBoo]

<font color="#ff0000"> To find out in the future, just look at the faction messages </font><font color="#ff0000"><img src="../../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" border="0" height="16" width="16"></font><font color="#ff0000"></font> <font color="#ff0000"></font><font color="#ff0000"> When you kill a faction mob, you get messages about each faction modified.</font><font color="#ff0000"></font> <font color="#ff0000"></font><font color="#ff0000"> Ex:</font><font color="#ff0000"></font> <font color="#ff0000"></font><font color="#ff0000"> Your faction standing with A has gotten worse.</font><font color="#ff0000"></font><font color="#ff0000"> Your faction standing with B has gotten better.</font><font color="#ff0000"></font> <font color="#ff0000"></font><font color="#ff0000"> So to raise faction with A, kill mobs of B.<font color="#ffffff"></font><font color="#ffffff">Not always, sometimes they make faction 3 way or impossible to raise.</font><font color="#ffffff"></font></font><div></div>

[Magu]

Impossible to raise factions are easy to notice though, like the order of the blades in EF. Your faction standing with The Order of the Blades has gotten worse. No second message.  No raising = no faction tied to that one = can't bring it back up. For a 3 way, it's still quite easy. Your faction standing with The Sabertooth Gnolls has gotten worse. Your faction standing with The Great Herd has gotten better. Your faction standing with The Steppes Settlers has gotten better. To raise gnoll faction, kill centaurs or settlers. To raise centaur faction, kill gnolls or settlers. To raise settler faction, kill centaurs or gnolls. <div></div>

[TunaBoo]

Again, not all factions work like that. Some could lower A, raise B.. but killing B won't riase A again.<div></div>

[Pins]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> JoarAddam wrote:<BR> <DIV>Killing naga in PoF increases your faction in court</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Nope.</P> <P>Killing naga in PoF raises your faction with "The Court of the Master Djinn", not "The Court of Al'Afaz".</P>

[ReviloTX]

<DIV>While talking about this, how many clearings roughly does it take before it becomes KOS?  We have cleared it 3 times now, minus the black queen and sunchild, and I'm not KOS yet.  Looks like i lose roughly 1k faction each time we go in.  I think I'm around -31k now.  KOS is at -40k?</DIV>

[Crychtonn]

<DIV>Correct KOS is -40K</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[TunaBoo]

We have cleared maybe 6 times before we became KOS... Haven't found a way to raise it yet.<div></div>

[Redbed]

<DIV>Does killing the 2 Dragons raise it?  </DIV>

[Shailen]

Any more word on this, we have people who have apparently raised it with killing some mobs, but they can't recall what they were.<div></div>

[Caetrel]

You lose 500 for each tower named so that is 1500 per visit.  You start at -30k and -40k is KoS.  One the 7th trip killing the 3 tower names you would be KoS after killing the second mob.  6 x -500 = -9000.  I don't think Moonchild or the bosses cause faction hits.<div></div>

[Shailen]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Caetrel wrote:You lose 500 for each tower named so that is 1500 per visit.  You start at -30k and -40k is KoS.  One the 7th trip killing the 3 tower names you would be KoS after killing the second mob.  6 x -500 = -9000.  I don't think Moonchild or the bosses cause faction hits.<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>I know how the point losses work, ideally we'd like a way to get faction back up.  Its a PITA with all those frogs agro, its just another stupid timesink.  We didn't think to even compare faction among our guild members until someone noticed last week that a number of us who've all been in there the same number of times, have different amounts of faction.  A few people recall something raising their faction, but can't remember what it is.</p><p>The Black Queens new little trick is also rather interesting with the KoS frogs.</p>

[Tanit]

<span><blockquote><hr>Shailen wrote:<p>Its a PITA with all those frogs agro, its just another stupid timesink.</p><hr></blockquote>Every raidzone has aggro trash mobs to kill. Although it would be nice to increase faction, i don't see it as a big deal.</span><div></div>

[Pins]

<blockquote><hr>Shailen wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Caetrel wrote:You lose 500 for each tower named so that is 1500 per visit.  You start at -30k and -40k is KoS.  One the 7th trip killing the 3 tower names you would be KoS after killing the second mob.  6 x -500 = -9000.  I don't think Moonchild or the bosses cause faction hits.<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>I know how the point losses work, ideally we'd like a way to get faction back up.  Its a PITA with all those frogs agro, its just another stupid timesink.  We didn't think to even compare faction among our guild members until someone noticed last week that a number of us who've all been in there the same number of times, have different amounts of faction.  A few people recall something raising their faction, but can't remember what it is.</p><p>The Black Queens new little trick is also rather interesting with the KoS frogs.</p><hr></blockquote>So clear the zone. It doesn't take that long, the zone is still quite small. So you have to kill some frogs, big deal. If you know what the black queen can do, then prepare for it by clearing the zone.

[Shailen]

<div></div><div>We do know and we do clear.</div><div> </div><div>My issues I guess is that this is indicative of overall SOE zone design and I guess its been wearing on me more than I thought.  Only really dawned on me thats what irked me about the frogs, was that it was something bothering me previously.  The frogs themselves really aren't a big deal.</div><div> </div><div>Was talking about this with people while mindlessly killing all that trash in Poets return.  It just seems like so much of the T6 stuff is filler in between the really nice named fights.  Now not that I don't think there shouldn't be filler (I mean SotL had plenty) but for some reason it feels different with some of these.</div><div> </div><div>I guess the frogs just sort of struck a note after that conversation.  I'd much rather the trash mobs at least have some variance or minimal purpose other than to just eat up time.</div><p>Message Edited by Shailen on <span class="date_text">01-17-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:06 AM</span></p>

[Crychtonn]

<div></div><p>At least the frog's in Al'Afaz don't take forever to kill like the Mino's and some of the Raiders in PP:R.  That 3rd floor is the most boring raid zone I've ever been into.</p><p> </p>

[Shailen]

<div></div><p>They could halve the HP of most of those and it would still be boring.  I wouldn't care nearly as much though if they dropped decent coin, or anything.</p><p>Nothing as fun as looting that failed raider and seeing your 2 silver share of that loot.</p>

[Strewth]

1) Who cares about the Court faction, null and void on Feb 212) PP:R and level 3 ? I'm just gratefull they didn't make us do those lame doors like in regular Poets.. but yea, dead boring time sink..<div></div>

[Pins]

<blockquote><hr>Strewth wrote:1) Who cares about the Court faction, null and void on Feb 212) PP:R and level 3 ? I'm just gratefull they didn't make us do those lame doors like in regular Poets.. but yea, dead boring time sink..<div></div><hr></blockquote>Why wouldn't you keep farming Court of Al'Afaz once a week after February 21st? Hrm, Wait a second, there's an insane amount of status to be gained there, and it only takes a few hours, and the loot is still pretty good. Lets see, make money for your guild, earn guild status, get still good loot till you start raiding T7.

[Shailen]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Pinski wrote:<blockquote><hr>Strewth wrote:1) Who cares about the Court faction, null and void on Feb 212) PP:R and level 3 ? I'm just gratefull they didn't make us do those lame doors like in regular Poets.. but yea, dead boring time sink..<div></div><hr></blockquote>Why wouldn't you keep farming Court of Al'Afaz once a week after February 21st? Hrm, Wait a second, there's an insane amount of status to be gained there, and it only takes a few hours, and the loot is still pretty good. Lets see, make money for your guild, earn guild status, get still good loot till you start raiding T7.<hr></blockquote><p>Also since they aren't screwing up T7 the way they did T6, T6 fabled will still be better than all gear except T7 fabled.  This should give SOME purpose to those older raids, and prevent a situation like we have now, were we raid 4-5 days of the week and sit on our hands the rest of the time.</p><p>Side note, my guild gets antsy when we have no T6 zones open, so we farm the cr^p out of T5 stuff just to see what we get.  It makes a good source of coin.  We take the occassional battlement jewelry or mitigation jewelry, and sell all the masters and the rest of the fabled.  Can make us 20+ plat for the guild bank some days.</p>

[NimSul]

<div></div><p>Even if you could raise your faction im sure it would be more timeconsuming to raise it than it is to just kill the few more encounters in there that die in seconds anyways.</p><p>We have cleared it faster kos than not kos because the more rutine in doing the encounters makes it faster than the little more time it takes to kill the frogs.</p>