Tradeskill Changes, Feedback, and Playtest. [Archive]

Glendral

09-21-2006, 11:37 PM

<div></div><div></div>Greetings all,I wanted to post to let you all know exactly where the tradeskill devices can be found and that we will be holding a playtest this afternoon and tomorrow afternoon to gather feedback. We have seen the numerous threads already posted about these changes and want to get some concentrated feedback from the playtests. I will make separate posts for the playtest feedback on each day. For now here are where the tradeskill devices can be found.FreeportThe writ givers, tradeskill recipe vendors, and the newbie trainer can be found in either East Freeport or North Freeport.Freeport NorthShop Name Chemistry Table Sewing Table Forge Workbench Woodworking Table Engraved Desk Keg & StoveTorlig's 2Fine Clothiers 3Oracle 2Blue Building 2Jade Tiger Inn 2Academy 2 3Temple of War 2 1Freeport EastShop Name Chemistry Table Sewing Table Forge Workbench Woodworking Table Engraved Desk Keg & StoveHallard's Bolt 2 2Trader's Holiday 2 1Armor by Ikthar 1 1Freeport Observer 3Seafarers Roost 2The Emporium 2 1Poison Shop 3Freeport WestShop Name Chemistry Table Sewing Table Forge Workbench Woodworking Table Engraved Desk Keg & StoveGurb and Ironstars 2 1Fine Leather & Hide 1 1Backalley Brewhouse 1 1Blood Haze Inn 1Freeport SouthShop Name Chemistry Table Sewing Table Forge Workbench Woodworking Table Engraved Desk Keg & StoveBlock and Tackle 1 2 1 2 QeynosThe writ givers, tradeskill recipe vendors, and the newbie trainer can be found in either North Qeynos or South Qeynos.Qeynos NorthShop Name Chemistry Table Sewing Table Forge Workbench Woodworking Table Engraved Desk Keg & StoveThe jewel Box 1 2Call to Arms 2 1Clothespinners 2Fhara's Furnishings 1 1Sneed's Trading Post 1 1 2 1 2Voleen's Bakery 2Qeynos SouthShop Name Chemistry Table Sewing Table Forge Workbench Woodworking Table Engraved Desk Keg & StoveMaile's Exchange 1 1 1The Tin Soldier 3The Herb Jar 3 2Bag n'Barrel 2 2 1Lion's Mane Inn and Tavern 1Food on Foot 2Mage Tower 4The Elddar GroveShop Name Chemistry Table Sewing Table Forge Workbench Woodworking Table Engraved Desk Keg & Stove In Range 2Antonica's Pottery 1 1QeynosHarborShop Name Chemistry Table Sewing Table Forge Workbench Woodworking Table Engraved Desk Keg & Stove Echoes of Destiny 1Fish's Alehouse 1The Hall of Steel 3Harbor Cache 2Message Edited by Glendral on 09-21-2006 12:43 PM

ZeyGnome

09-21-2006, 11:53 PM

Define playtests please. If just running tests to see what works and doesn't, fine. But one thing that cannot be tested for is the lag situation. Test just doesn't have the population for this. I can tell you that as it is right now, on Test, I have frame skipping in all three of those zones. I have a pretty good rig, and my distance is not set out to max, performance is set slightly higher than middle. On Live, that's where the lagfest will happen. Those zones, specifically QH, are already problematic because of the population gathering. I can only imagine what it will be like if this was to go Live. Especially now that the only brokers are also in those same zones as the crafting is. As for testing the writs again and seeing how viable they are in this new setup, they are broken last I checked, so that will have to wait until after the fix goes in (today hopefully). Edit: My rig is P4 3.8Ghz, 2gb RAM, nVidia 6600. Probably better than the average user and well above the rec. specs.Message Edited by ZeyGnome on 09-21-2006 02:55 PM

NiamiDenMother

09-22-2006, 12:05 AM

One thing I'd personally like to see tested is cramming as many players as possible into NQ - crafters crafting, noncrafters trick-or-treating ... with mounts/carpets out, and pets, and all the other baggage folks tend to drag around town. With the Test population being as small as it is, and this ocurring right during the dinner hour for some timezones, we won't be able to give it a proper load test, but it'd help give them a small feel for what we mean on the load-thing.One thing off the bat, now that I've seen the layout, is that the engraved desks in the SQ mage tower aren't going to be a good idea. I understand the logic of placing them there, but the proximity to the port pads is asking for trouble. :O<div></div>

Bhagpuss

09-22-2006, 12:29 AM

I can't do these playtests - they are at 1am my time. Neither will my GF be able to. That's two regular Test crafters out of the test for a start, and on Test 2 people is a significant percentage of the available population.Also, this test seems to be concerned with viability. In my opinion the main issue isn't whether it's possible to craft in city zones, but whether we should lose the option of crafting in instances.Even if it is as smooth as silk in town, I LIKE the instances. It's not an issue of practicality, it's an issue of pleasurable play. Removing them is taking away something valued in and of itself.

ZeyGnome

09-22-2006, 12:36 AM

<DIV>Word is out on the Test channel. It looks like NQ will be the most populated one during this test. People will be there crafting, trick or treating, and afk at the broker. Bringing horse, carpets, pets, etc. The population will still not be near Live, but it will definitely be something to see.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>See you there.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Glendral

09-22-2006, 12:56 AM

Thank you all very much for your help.<div></div>

Purr

09-22-2006, 01:42 AM

I can already tell you that the clipboard for the looms in the Tailor shop in NQ can't be reached by a High Elf (so not exactly a tall char) on horse without jumping over part of the left station. And that's with just this char in that shop. I'll be there for the playtest with all 3 systems. But even if you can solve the lag issue (I can't see that at all for people on older machines) - it will not make rush writs that require several stations better or even possible. I also agree that Test is not the environment for a lag test. Just give us the instances back and treat your addition as that = an addition. Thanks. Purr~ 70 Carpenter, 70 Provisioner, 69 Woodworker, 68 Sage, other 5 crafters in their mid or low 60s *There are other servers besides Test?*