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Sunrayn
07-16-2006, 07:20 PM
<DIV>You know those neat guild raids that you unlocked as your guild leveled up?  The ones hardly anyone does apparently because they were never fixed after being scaled.  Well, I am here to ask you to fix them.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>TNK got together last night to try out the guild raids.  A bit confusing as it seems none of us could get the same quest.  We are fairly smart folk though and figured out the system before our actual raid time.  It is then that we ran into:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Problem 1:  Seems the entire raid/group has to be in the same zone as the quest giver in order to be sent to the instance.  Qeynos Harbor or (wherever the freeport one is).  Umm...we have members from both cities.  Told our 27 necro to run to Antonica, find the entrance to Peat Bog, find the zone to Vermins Snye, Down Below then Qeynos harbor.  Just to go on a guild raid.  She logged off for the night.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Problem 2:  There were 6 of us.  We mentored to 37 with our lowest group member a 30.  The group mobs were perfect.  37 to 38.  The epics were 38 and 39.  Huh? There is an epic x3 in this group instance.  The epic x2 we could take with 6.  Ok, we died, a lot.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Problem 3:  We got absolutely NO guild status for anything.  Not completing the quest objective, none for killing the epics.  Nada, zip, zero.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Problem 4:  We did another raid afterward.  This time, we mentored to 30.  Group mobs 31 to 33.  Check.  Epics, 38 and 39.  Huh?  Epics forgot to scale.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Overall, I give the guild raids a 3 out of 10.  For not getting any guild status AND getting low 20's loot.  Epics not scaling to level.  Getting your evil, or good counterparts,  depending on which guy hails, into a city zone; not worth the effort.</DIV>

Glendral
07-20-2006, 07:36 AM
Your wish is our command. <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span>The city guild raids have been completely redone, by a dev other than me (whos board name I dont remember). They will be coming with the next update  to the test server. The loot is being promoted to the test server as soon as possible, its checked in but due to an untimely power outage yesterday it didn't make it into the next push. The raids are designed for guilds just starting out with raiding to teach some of the basics of raiding, such as add management and aoe attacks. Feel free to use this thread for feedback on the raids and the loot for them.<div></div>

Sunrayn
07-20-2006, 05:56 PM
<P>Whoohoo! Thanks guys.  We are using the guild raids for tuning our team and teaching folk that never raided before how to set up quickly and efficiently.  Luckily, we got tons of practice on some of the epics that wiped us.  =)</P> <P>We have been raiding every saturday and we will be testing out the new and improved guild raids soon as they hit test.  Our start time is 6pm central.</P> <P>Sunrayn, leader of The Noble Kindred</P>

Sunrayn
07-23-2006, 05:28 AM
<DIV>Ok, TNK did the raid The Lone Heretic in the Eternal gorge.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>First off, nobody could seem to get the same quest when they hailed.  So we just took a chance that it would complete that 'type' of raid and the person that got it zoned us in.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We had 7 in the raid--61 guard, 61 conj, 60 conj, 64 warden, 40 monk, 34 templar, 34 necro.  We mentored to 34.</DIV> <DIV>The guard was in a mix of treasured and legendary, mostly treasured.  Monk in handcrafted.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The two healers could keep up on me (guard).  Monk got hammered in handcrafted.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Our raid was the aggro shuffle one...and the sisters certainly shuffled it.  Pets, healers, mages.  Once aggro got shuffled, only a rescue would pull it back and then it was only for a few seconds.  Result, raid wipe 8 times, couldnt complete.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Parse logs are being mailed to me, will post them when I get them.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Overall, I would say for a guild just starting out on raiding, this quest is way too much for them to handle.  The aggro shuffling, in my opinion, went overboard.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We did go in 5 people short but, a small guild just starting out is going to be doing the same.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>a fallen mercenary 7:33:00 PM (success)<BR>Allies: (02:00) 58612 | 488.43 [Riverspath-Winds of Arctic Cold-481] <BR>(Monk)  Rapture 13698 | 114.15<BR>(Guardian)  Sunrayn 9570 | 79.75<BR>(scout pet, conj)  Karaner 6421 | 53.51<BR>(Necro)  Knay 5993 | 49.94<BR>(Warden)  Riverspath 5813 | 48.43<BR>(scout pet, nec) Peppy 5648 | 47.07<BR>(Conjuror)  Carrie 4536 | 37.80<BR>(Conjuror)  Kristiana 4478 | 37.32<BR>(scout pet, conj)  Crusher 2455 | 20.46<BR>Carrie's aqueous swarm 0 | 0.00<BR>Riverspath's wolf ally 0 | 0.00<BR>Knay's swarm of rats 0 | 0.00<BR>( Templar)  Tallenor 0 | 0.00<BR>Kristiana's aqueous swarm 0 | 0.00<BR><BR>a fallen defender 7:37:27 PM (success)<BR>Allies: (02:22) 59204 | 416.93 [Sunrayn-Blast-388]<BR>Rapture 13347 | 93.99<BR>Sunrayn 10484 | 73.83<BR>Peppy 6650 | 46.83<BR>Knay 6354 | 44.75<BR>Zabaner 5867 | 41.32<BR>Carrie 5399 | 38.02<BR>Crusher 5341 | 37.61<BR>Riverspath 2743 | 19.32<BR>Kristiana 2731 | 19.23<BR>Karaner 288 | 2.03<BR>Tallenor 0 | 0.00<BR>Riverspath's wolf ally 0 | 0.00<BR>Carrie's aqueous swarm 0 | 0.00<BR>Knay's swarm of rats 0 | 0.00<BR>Kristiana's aqueous swarm 0 | 0.00<BR><BR>a fallen sorcerer 7:43:42 PM (success) <BR>Allies: (01:39) 61405 | 620.25 [Riverspath-Winds of Arctic Cold-422]<BR>Rapture 13397 | 135.32<BR>Carrie 9020 | 91.11<BR>Crusher 8373 | 84.58<BR>Zabaner 7445 | 75.20<BR>Knay 5939 | 59.99<BR>Peppy 5477 | 55.32<BR>Kristiana 5139 | 51.91<BR>Sunrayn 4061 | 41.02<BR>Riverspath 2396 | 24.20<BR>Tallenor 158 | 1.60<BR>Carrie's aqueous swarm 0 | 0.00<BR>Riverspath's wolf ally 0 | 0.00<BR>Kristiana's aqueous swarm 0 | 0.00<BR>Knay's swarm of rats 0 | 0.00<BR><BR>a fallen defender 7:47:17PM (success)<BR>Allies: (03:44) 122809 | 548.25 [Kristiana-Calcify-413]<BR>Crusher 18864 | 84.21<BR>Rapture 18447 | 82.35<BR>Sunrayn 16731 | 74.69<BR>Carrie 16728 | 74.68<BR>Zabaner 13253 | 59.17 <BR>Knay 13249 | 59.15<BR>Kristiana 11691 | 52.19<BR>Peppy 11167 | 49.85<BR>Riverspath 2679 | 11.96<BR>Kristiana's aqueous swarm 0 | 0.00<BR>Riverspath's Protecting Grove 0 | 0.00<BR>Riverspath's wolf ally 0 | 0.00<BR>Carrie's aqueous swarm 0 | 0.00<BR>Tallenor 0 | 0.00<BR>Knay's swarm of rats 0 | 0.00<BR><BR>a fallen mercenary 7:51:32 PM (success)<BR>Allies: (02:29) 58998 | 395.96 [Carrie-Harden-449]<BR>Rapture 12413 | 83.31<BR>Zabaner 9655 | 64.80<BR>Sunrayn 8893 | 59.68<BR>Crusher 8569 | 57.51<BR>Knay 6858 | 46.03<BR>Carrie 5315 | 35.67<BR>Kristiana 4817 | 32.33<BR>Riverspath 2478 | 16.63<BR>Carrie's aqueous swarm 0 | 0.00<BR>Riverspath's wolf ally 0 | 0.00<BR>Kristiana's aqueous swarm 0 | 0.00<BR>Knay's swarm of rats 0 | 0.00<BR>Tallenor 0 | 0.00<BR><BR>a fallen defender 7:56:56 PM (success)<BR>Allies: (01:29) 58740 | 660.00 [Carrie-Skeleton Master's Strike-872]<BR>Rapture 13723 | 154.19<BR>Riverspath 8209 | 92.24<BR>Crusher 7380 | 82.92<BR>Zabaner 7152 | 80.36<BR>Sunrayn 6689 | 75.16<BR>Kristiana 4762 | 53.51<BR>Knay 3942 | 44.29<BR>Carrie 3506 | 39.39<BR>Peppy 3377 | 37.94<BR>Riverspath's wolf ally 0 | 0.00<BR>Tallenor 0 | 0.00<BR>Kristiana's aqueous swarm 0 | 0.00<BR>Knay's swarm of rats 0 | 0.00<BR><BR>Sister Melfind 8:01:01 PM (success)<BR>Allies: (03:50) 97940 | 425.83 [Sunrayn-Blast-415]<BR>Rapture 22784 | 99.06<BR>Crusher 18434 | 80.15 <BR>Zabaner 18022 | 78.36<BR>Carrie 14137 | 61.47<BR>Sunrayn 13960 | 60.70<BR>Knay 10603 | 46.10<BR>Kristiana's aqueous swarm 0 | 0.00<BR>Carrie's aqueous swarm 0 | 0.00<BR>Knay's swarm of rats 0 | 0.00<BR>Riverspath 0 | 0.00<BR>Tallenor 0 | 0.00<BR><BR>Sister Oolinkp 8:01:01 PM (fail)<BR>Allies: (03:50) 97940 | 425.83 [Sunrayn-Blast-415]<BR>Rapture 22784 | 99.06<BR>Crusher 18434 | 80.15<BR>Zabaner 18022 | 78.36<BR>Carrie 14137 | 61.47<BR>Sunrayn 13960 | 60.70<BR>Knay 10603 | 46.10<BR>Kristiana's aqueous swarm 0 | 0.00<BR>Carrie's aqueous swarm 0 | 0.00<BR>Knay's swarm of rats 0 | 0.00<BR>Riverspath 0 | 0.00<BR>Tallenor 0 | 0.00<BR><BR>an undead sentinel 8:11:49 PM (success) <BR>Allies: (01:15) 19210 | 256.13 [Sunrayn-Blast-327]<BR>Rapture 7547 | 100.63<BR>Sunrayn 4656 | 62.08<BR>Knay 2687 | 35.83<BR>Riverspath 2444 | 32.59<BR>Peppy 1876 | 25.01<BR>Knay's swarm of rats 0 | 0.00<BR>Kristiana 0 | 0.00<BR>Riverspath's wolf ally 0 | 0.00<BR>Carrie 0 | 0.00<BR><BR>Sister Oolinkp 8:29:16 PM (fail)<BR>Allies: (01:36) 49057 | 511.01 [Knay-Breath of the Unearthed-488]<BR>Rapture 9280 | 96.67<BR>Crusher 7571 | 78.86<BR>Sunrayn 7095 | 73.91<BR>Knay 6712 | 69.92<BR>Carrie 6294 | 65.56<BR>Xenobn 5616 | 58.50<BR>Kristiana 3733 | 38.89<BR>Peppy 2756 | 28.71<BR>Kristiana's aqueous swarm 0 | 0.00<BR>Knay's swarm of rats 0 | 0.00<BR>Tallenor 0 | 0.00<BR>Riverspath's Protecting Grove 0 | 0.00<BR>Riverspath 0 | 0.00<BR><BR>Sister Oolinkp 8:31:22 PM (fail)<BR>Allies: (00:35) 5348 | 152.80 [Knay-Lifetap-327]<BR>Rapture 1632 | 46.63<BR>Peppy 1165 | 33.29<BR>Knay 1073 | 30.66<BR>Sunrayn 972 | 27.77<BR>Xenobn 408 | 11.66<BR>Knay's swarm of rats 0 | 0.00<BR>Kristiana 0 | 0.00<BR>Carrie 0 | 0.00<BR><BR>a fallen mercenary 8:39:22 PM (success)<BR>Allies: (01:22) 61461 | 749.52 [Riverspath-Winds of Arctic Cold-495]<BR>Rapture 11250 | 137.20 <BR>Sunrayn 9390 | 114.51<BR>Riverspath 8517 | 103.87<BR>Crusher 7171 | 87.45<BR>Zobartik 5679 | 69.26<BR>Carrie 5491 | 66.96<BR>Kristiana 5176 | 63.12<BR>Knay 5169 | 63.04<BR>Peppy 3106 | 37.88<BR>Tallenor 512 | 6.24<BR>Kristiana's aqueous swarm 0 | 0.00<BR>Carrie's aqueous swarm 0 | 0.00<BR>Knay's swarm of rats 0 | 0.00<BR>Riverspath's wolf ally 0 | 0.00<BR><BR>Sister Halyous 8:46:15 PM (fail)<BR>Allies: (06:29) 93031 | 239.15 [Riverspath-Winds of Arctic Cold-494] <BR>Rapture 24954 | 64.15<BR>Sunrayn 22053 | 56.69<BR>Carrie 19273 | 49.54<BR>Riverspath 5869 | 15.09<BR>Knay 5722 | 14.71<BR>Kristiana 5643 | 14.51<BR>Zobartik 3935 | 10.12<BR>Peppy 3091 | 7.95<BR>Crusher 1213 | 3.12<BR>Konaner 901 | 2.32<BR>Tallenor 377 | 0.97<BR>Knay's swarm of rats 0 | 0.00<BR>Kristiana's aqueous swarm 0 | 0.00<BR>Riverspath's wolf ally 0 | 0.00<BR>Carrie's aqueous swarm 0 | 0.00</DIV><p>Message Edited by Sunrayn on <span class=date_text>07-22-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:55 PM</span>

Sunrayn
07-26-2006, 06:31 AM
<P>One thing that occured to me.</P> <P>I am not sure how the final will be in terms of how tough these mobs are.  Most of the testing we did was with mentored characters, most of them lvl 60+ mentoring to 24, 27, 30.  We had all the combat arts, spells, taunts, heals, of our true level at our disposal.  Even the testing we did with venos included wizzys with Ice Comet, Wardens with Protecting Grove, Tanks with all their taunts even though we were mentored to 24 on one raid, 55 on another.</P> <P> </P>

EtoilePirate
07-26-2006, 07:12 AM
<div><blockquote><hr>Sunrayn wrote:<div></div> <p>One thing that occured to me.</p> <p>I am not sure how the final will be in terms of how tough these mobs are.  Most of the testing we did was with mentored characters, most of them lvl 60+ mentoring to 24, 27, 30.  We had all the combat arts, spells, taunts, heals, of our true level at our disposal.  Even the testing we did with venos included wizzys with Ice Comet, Wardens with Protecting Grove, Tanks with all their taunts even though we were mentored to 24 on one raid, 55 on another.</p> <hr></blockquote>On Sunday when we mentored to 24, especially for the second instance, there were really a fair number of under-35 characters along.  I know that the two healers in the main tank group were 24 and 32 ('cause I was one of 'em, hehe).  But yes, I agree that the high-level mentored tank may give a misleading impression of how doable a zone is.</div>

Sunrayn
07-30-2006, 04:15 AM
<P>City raids completely broken now.</P> <P>9 of us from TNK met up tonight, Saturday, to do a raid.  We tried the one person get a quest and zone us in.  Didnt work, Everyone that didnt have a quest got a 'Doesnt meet requirements' message.</P> <P>Ok, everyone hail and get the quest.  One person got one quest, 2 people got another quest, and 6 people got the same quest.  Those without the same quest, couldnt zone in.</P> <P>Tried deleting and hailing to see if we could somehow get the same quest..no go.</P> <P>There seems to be no rhyme or reason to the quests we could get.  No matter what, 6 got the same quest, 2 got the same quest and I got one completely different.</P> <P>*Edit to add additional info*</P> <P>Gonna use names so this doesnt get confusing:</P> <P>Sunrayn, Rapture, Kris, Tallenor had done Avatars of jealosy together.  Sunrayn and Tallenor couldnt get Avatars of Jealosy but,  Rapture and Kris could.</P> <P>Syndi had done none of the raids and could only get The Lone Heretic.</P> <P>Tallenor could only get The Lone Heretic.</P> <P>Sunrayn could only get The One Who Got Away.</P> <P>The remaining 4 who had done no quests could get Avatars of Jealosy.</P><p>Message Edited by Sunrayn on <span class=date_text>07-29-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:50 PM</span>