Kingdom of Sky Lauch Event

[Feconix]

<font size="2">The Expansion 2 Launch Event is now active.This works similar to the Griffon Tower rebuilding event, but will take a bit longer.The spire sites are in the following zones:AntonicaCommonlandsNektulosSteppesEnchanted LandsFeerrottPlease give it a shot when you have a chance and give me your feedback.Btw, this is where you turn in any sky essences you've found.Thanks!<span></span></font><div></div>

[EtoilePirate]

Well, this is certainly one we've all leapt into happily, hehe.The XP situation is interesting.  Toons over 50 are getting 1.1% per turn in (max 20 at a time).  Toons in their 40s were getting 2.2%.  My 21 Fury got 3.3% and hit 22 pretty quickly, and toons under 20 were apparently getting 4.5%.  For 20 turn-ins in 20 minutes... well, my 56 assassin just got more XP in a half-hour than sue usually gets from a decent 3-hr dungeon crawl.  And it doesn't take vitality.It's fun, though.  But on a small server (ie, Test) the sky essences are a huge, annoying bottleneck because they're Lore.  Everyone can jump to a station and craft 20 whatever in 20 minutes, but the essences are a random body drop and a little ill luck makes a long wait.  I wouldn't change it, though -- especially since the server mergers, I think the majority of servers will have plenty of people out adventuring!<div></div>

[Ce]

<div></div> I also assume once the spires are built, the XP run of the crafting component will be over with.  I do think the XP if probably a little high for the amount of work involved, but in theory it's only a temporary thing.

[Ce]

<div></div><p>Oh.. and no spire in Sinking Sands for those of us now residing in MajDul? <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  One of those would be nice if you could swing it!</p><p> </p>

[Dyeana]

<div></div><p>I know there is one ... There must be one in Sinking Sands,....  We just have to dig it out .... Right? </p><p> </p><p>/emorte has visions of Star Gate in her mind</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Dye</p>

[Kaknya]

 naa they probably dont have one.. what do they need one for, they have flying carpets after all<div></div>

[Feconix]

<div></div><div></div><div></div><p><font size="2">I tuned down the experience on the build quests. Not sure when/if that will hit test, so enjoy the bonus. :smileywink:</font></p><p><font size="2"></font><font size="2">There is way too much sand in Sinking Sands, not sure the spires would be exactly stable there.</font></p><p><font size="2">Message Edited by Findin on <span class="date_text">02-10-2006</span><span class="time_text">12:29 PM</span></font></p><p><span class="time_text"><font size="2">Just wanted to add that I went around to all the spires and added some components to push things along a bit.</font></span></p><p>Message Edited by Findin on <span class="date_text">02-10-2006</span><span class="time_text">12:31 PM</span></p>

[Bhagpuss]

I just did a hand-in and a few of the crafting quests.The xp was very nice, although it did occur to me that it was odd to be getting Adventure xp from crafting. I was getting 3% a time at 26th. I would guess that even at 1% a time, there would be hordes of people doing this 24/7. Not sure if that's a good thing or not.I do think the balance between the adventure and crafting quest is a bit off, though. A crafter can stand at the site and repeat the quest indefinitely, but an adventurer not only has to hunt for random drops, but has to hunt near a spire, or waste a lot of time running back and forth. Adventurers in dungeons or zones without spires will have the galling experience of having to leave many sky essences to rot because they are Lore and it will be impractical to run to a spire and do a hand in every time one drops.I would like to see the Lore tag removed from the Essences. No Trade is fine, but No Trade and Lore is too harsh. Stackable would be even better but I imagine that might be problematic in a quest.If the Essences have to remain Lore, I'd personally rather they only dropped in zones with a spire, because having to leave them behind when hunting too far away would be even more annoying than not seeing them drop at all.

[Torali]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Bhagpuss wrote:A crafter can stand at the site and repeat the quest indefinitely, but an adventurer not only has to hunt for random drops, but has to hunt near a spire, or waste a lot of time running back and forth.<hr></blockquote>Nope, there's a limit on the crafting. You can make items 20 times and then you must break. I've counted 10 times for the adventuring one.

[Bhagpuss]

Ah! - I stopped after about a dozen hand-ins - I was levelling too fast <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Ce]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Torali wrote:<div></div><blockquote>Nope, there's a limit on the crafting. You can make items 20 times and then you must break. I've counted 10 times for the adventuring one.<hr></blockquote></blockquote>Not true... do a craft to 20, go get an essence hand it to the scholar , and voila... unlimited timer.  (This needs to be fixed obvioulsy)

[Ce]

<div></div>Also, essences are giving double quest credit... once at looting, once at turn in.  Need to fix that too.

[Ce]

<div>Finally, crude quest items work for the spires... I would think you'ld want atleast standard quality items.. not sure I want to use a spire made out of crude parts!</div>

[Feconix]

<div></div><div></div><font size="2"><span></span></font><blockquote><hr><font size="2">Ce wrote:Also, essences are giving double quest credit... once at looting, once at turn in.  Need to fix that too.</font><hr></blockquote><font size="2">Already fixed the quest one... Again, not sure when/if it will make it to test.Looking into the lockout reset issue.Thanks.Edited to add: I fixed the lockout timer issue when I fixed the double quest issue. Thank you very much for reporting it.</font><div></div><p>Message Edited by Findin on <span class="date_text">02-10-2006</span><span class="time_text">05:30 PM</span></p>

[EtoilePirate]

Well.  Dragons, eh?Test is going to have a problem with the non-recycling of raiders.  I think it's a brilliant idea for Live, seeing as how only 24 people can *ever* have each title, and on on, but on Test we grouped up to raid the EL spire dragon (the second) and found that 8 of our members had to go elsewhere.  We eventually reformed but took our 20 failures and called it a night.My only problem with the dragon in EL is how it targets.  60 Assassin in the 2nd group... and when the main taink goes down, suddenly it comes <b>straight </b>for me?  Without me having used more than three CAs, I might add, and all of those being arts that wouldn't turn a mob off of a tank ten levels my junior.  And it happened more than once.So far soo good, though... when we find enough people who haven't killed another one, I'm sure we'll have another go.  *cracks knuckles*  I want me that loot and title.<div></div>

[Feconix]

<div></div><font size="2">If you guys don't have enough new people to do the dragons by monday, I'll clear the timers from anyone who is online.Like I said before on server, please keep this little surprise at the end to yourselves. I want people on Live to have the same surprise everyone in Antonica had. <span>:smileyhappy:</span>Someone post here tomorrow night if you still need the timers cleared.Thanks.</font><div></div><p>Message Edited by Findin on <span class="date_text">02-11-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:38 PM</span></p>

[Feconix]

Also, when the enchanted lands spires completed did anyone crash out?<div></div>

[EtoilePirate]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Findin wrote:Also, when the enchanted lands spires completed did anyone crash out?<div></div><hr></blockquote>All of us, in fact.  Spire depopped, repopped, dragon shows, and then all of us went to character select.  Or at least most.  And the zone stayed unavailable for a minute before I could log back in.</span></div>

[Ce]

<div>Yep, zone crashed and restarted similar to Antonica.  You saw the dragon flying in after the spire depop/repop, I think I recall him getting to the point where he landed and the zone came down.</div><div> </div><div>As for the dragon flags, we'll have this problem for each of them, so it would be helpful if there's a little more automated way to remove the flag, not issue the flag, etc (unless you'ld just like an email or a post here each time it needs to be cleared) <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><div> </div><div>These are a few people I know were in the first event:</div><div> </div><div>Agedone</div><div>Slambo</div><div>Lucky</div><div>Resin</div><div>Romy</div><div>Sphinx</div><div>Pondscum</div><div>Tenacc</div><div>Huscar</div><div> </div><div>There were more than that, but that's all I recall atm (we had a 20 member raid).</div><div> </div>

[Ce]

<div></div><div>TS Dragon popped this morning.  Spire repoped, dragon flew in, zone stayed stable.  There were 7 of us in the zone, unlike EL (30ish), and Antonica (70ish).</div><div> </div><div>Also to many people the CL dragon was appearing as a wireframe only model.  I saw it fine (full textures) using an Nvidia 6800 ultra with 256MB on high performance.  My son's system with a Nvidia 5900 with 128MB on high performance has the wireframe.</div>

[EtoilePirate]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Ce wrote:<div></div><div>TS Dragon popped this morning.  Spire repoped, dragon flew in, zone stayed stable.  There were 7 of us in the zone, unlike EL (30ish), and Antonica (70ish).</div><div> </div><div>Also to many people the CL dragon was appearing as a wireframe only model.  I saw it fine (full textures) using an Nvidia 6800 ultra with 256MB on high performance.  My son's system with a Nvidia 5900 with 128MB on high performance has the wireframe.</div><hr></blockquote>Nvidia 6800 GT here and had wireframe.  Ditto Pond, who has either the 6600 or 6800, I forget which.Have some fun screenies of slaying the wireframe beast, though. *grin*</span></div>

[Sunrayn]

<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Findin wrote:<div></div><font size="2">If you guys don't have enough new people to do the dragons by monday, I'll clear the timers from anyone who is online.Like I said before on server, please keep this little surprise at the end to yourselves. I want people on Live to have the same surprise everyone in Antonica had. <span>:smileyhappy:</span>Someone post here tomorrow night if you still need the timers cleared.Thanks.</font><div></div><p>Message Edited by Findin on <span class="date_text">02-11-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:38 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote><p>I have got to disagree with this.  There are level 30, 50, and 60 versions of the dragons.  Half the raid for the first dragon were level 60's mentored down.  There were about 15 people of the appropriate range trying to get formed up and get more folks.  Yeah, it wasnt organized, there were level 8s in the group, but dammit, at least they werent level 50+.</p><p>Flame and disagree if you must but, thats the way I feel.  Instead of letting a bunch of 30s, 20s, learn how to raid and have some fun dying and trying, the high levels took it upon themselves to take out a lvl 30 dragon.</p><p>Keep the lock on, let the dragons sit there and grow old till folks that didnt have a chance level up and kill them.</p><p>And yeah, Sunrayn was at Antonica, sitting on the sidelines watching and laughing as a bunch of folks from lvl 8 to 35 tried to form up and kill a dragon.  Only to be pushed aside and locked out, that wasnt so funny</p><p>Sunrayn, 57 guard and planning on taking out a 60 dragon, not a 30</p><p> </p><p>Message Edited by Sunrayn on <span class="date_text">02-12-2006</span><span class="time_text">05:09 PM</span></p>

[Sephiro]

<div></div><div>I think the comonlands dragon (which was wire frame for most ) was visible to those who had pre ordered the expansion for digital download.</div><div> </div><div>Seph</div><p>Message Edited by SephiroQA on <span class="date_text">02-12-2006</span><span class="time_text">02:53 PM</span></p>

[EtoilePirate]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Sunrayn wrote:<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Findin wrote:<div></div><font size="2">If you guys don't have enough new people to do the dragons by monday, I'll clear the timers from anyone who is online.Like I said before on server, please keep this little surprise at the end to yourselves. I want people on Live to have the same surprise everyone in Antonica had. <span>:smileyhappy:</span>Someone post here tomorrow night if you still need the timers cleared.Thanks.</font><div></div><p>Message Edited by Findin on <span class="date_text">02-11-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:38 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote><p>I have got to disagree with this.  There are level 30, 50, and 60 versions of the dragons.  Half the raid for the first dragon were level 60's mentored down.  There were about 15 people of the appropriate range trying to get formed up and get more folks.  Yeah, it wasnt organized, there were level 8s in the group, but dammit, at least they werent level 50+.</p><p>Flame and disagree if you must but, thats the way I feel.  Instead of letting a bunch of 30s, 20s, learn how to raid and have some fun dying and trying, the high levels took it upon themselves to take out a lvl 30 dragon.</p><p>Keep the lock on, let the dragons sit there and grow old till folks that didnt have a chance level up and kill them.</p><p>And yeah, Sunrayn was at Antonica, sitting on the sidelines watching and laughing as a bunch of folks from lvl 8 to 35 tried to form up and kill a dragon.  Only to be pushed aside and locked out, that wasnt so funny</p><p>Sunrayn, 57 guard and planning on taking out a 60 dragon, not a 30</p><p> </p><p>Message Edited by Sunrayn on <span class="date_text">02-12-2006</span><span class="time_text">05:09 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Wow, that's a big pile of bitter.I wasn't online for the Antonica raid -- I must, alas, go to work sometimes -- but I was around for the Commonlands one.  And people were working on forming a party for several hours before a 24-person party -- in great part formed of level 30s -- pulled itself together and took out the dragon.So that on Test some 50s and 60s would mentor down to finish a thing -- with <b>tons</b> of lowbie names I, as a moderately active Test raider, have never seen before -- is so selfish how?  And that people with practically no experience raiding on Test pulled together and managed to take out the Steppes dragon is so selfish how?Just because you had one bad experience doesn't make a server full of people rotten no-good stinkers.</span></div>

[Ce]

<div></div><p>Both of my accounts (mine and my son's) are preordered (ordered the same day, a few days ago).  I saw it textured, he saw it wireframed.</p><p> </p><p>I agree with Sun's comments that it would have been nice for the 30 something crowd to kill the dragon, but I doubt it will go down any differently in the live world, unless Sony can figure out a way to prevent 60's from mentoring for the kill.  (I think we were all excited to open up the spire, to see if it was operational.  The CL 30 dragon was mostly appropriate levels, with only 3 mentored people, iirc.)</p>

[Sunrayn]

<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>EtoilePB wrote:<div><span><blockquote><div></div><div></div><blockquote><div></div><font size="2"></font><div></div><p>Wow, that's a big pile of bitter.I wasn't online for the Antonica raid -- I must, alas, go to work sometimes -- but I was around for the Commonlands one.  And people were working on forming a party for several hours before a 24-person party -- in great part formed of level 30s -- pulled itself together and took out the dragon.So that on Test some 50s and 60s would mentor down to finish a thing -- with <b>tons</b> of lowbie names I, as a moderately active Test raider, have never seen before -- is so selfish how?  And that people with practically no experience raiding on Test pulled together and managed to take out the Steppes dragon is so selfish how?Just because you had one bad experience doesn't make a server full of people rotten no-good stinkers.</span></p></blockquote></blockquote></div><hr></blockquote><p>Not bitter at all, reading comprehension is your friend.  I was at the CL dragon with a lower alt.  I know how that one went down.  I am talking about the antonica dragon.  Eight people that mentored for the antonica dragon then tried to get in on the EL dragon.  And, there were TWO raid forces at the antonica dragon, one formed of a bunch of folk that were appropriate level and then a force of 60s mentored down, some of those listed above in a post.  Guess which raid was cut out of having a chance to form up?  The mentored raid force even chose not to invite the last 4 folks to fill out the raid.  It was done with 20 people.</p><p>Even I, as just a dumb guardian could figure out that each spire would have a dragon attack and could figure out that the dragons in a higher tier zone would be a higher level.  Why not leave the 'little' dragons to folks that dont have a 60 main?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Message Edited by Sunrayn on <span class="date_text">02-12-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:07 PM</span></p>

[imbitten]

<div>I'm still looking for my Mentor UP command so can play with the other dragons.</div>

[Kaknya]

 I pre orderd the day pre ordering opened.. try saying that 3 times fast..I tried playing with different configs, and couldn't get the dragons to go in to wire frame, they all appeared normal to me.took screenies as well..ati radeon 9800 pro 256 running 2 headgigabyte dual bios nvidia 2 motherboardamd xp 3200+1.6 gigs of ddr400 ram1.2 ter hd on scsi chainaudigy 2 plat soundnow all i have to do is find a good 1k wat ups.. brownouts suck..<div></div>

[Feconix]

<div></div><font size="2">The dragons showing up in wireframe is a known issue, which has been resolved for live and will be fixed along with all the other stuff for test at some point. Not sure when, but probably too late to matter for you guys. :smileysad:That said:Please don't argue over the flags to kill each dragon. That is why there are flags in the first place, so I won't be clearing them unless there are still dragons around by Friday. The dragons are setup to force fair play, for an obviously good reason.I also wanted to say I really appreciate all of Test server's help with getting this event tested. (I'm starting to think I should let you guys exploit experience with all the live events :smileywink: ) I'm kidding... Really, the test server community plays a very important role and without all of you putting in the time on the spires, I wouldn't know the zone crashes when they complete.So, thank you all again.</font><p>Message Edited by Findin on <span class="date_text">02-13-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:17 AM</span></p>

[Kaknya]

 Just don't think we have enough high lvl characters left to finish what's left <shrug>main thing i was wondering is,.. Is it required to actually finish all sights, and slay the dragons for the server to actually gain access to KoS,.. or are we actually just creating a spot portal from that location to KoS..for some reason I have this image in my head of 5 or 6 locations on norrath being energy conduits to a main area in KoS.. much like the nexus on luclin. and your basically being converted in to energy and riding the waves between the points. If more then 1 or 2 of the points get lost, then the energy de-stabilizes and transportation would not be possible.. sorry.. im probably thinking too much again..<div></div>

[Ce]

<div></div><p>As long as CL and Ant are dragon free I'm happy, since those are the places one can gate to for quick access.</p><p>We currently won't have enough to kill 3 more dragons, so get ready to unflag people...</p><p> </p><p> </p>

[EtoilePirate]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Ce wrote:<div></div><p>As long as CL and Ant are dragon free I'm happy, since those are the places one can gate to for quick access.</p><p>We currently won't have enough to kill 3 more dragons, so get ready to unflag people... </p><hr></blockquote>Yeah, we've used most of the 50+ toons on Test already, heh.  Maybe we should go level those alts up before the Feerott spire's finished.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />As for KoS -- I wouldn't be surprised if there's a quested spell, either, à la Call of Ro.  So over time the spires will be less-used.</span></div>

[Xaana]

<div>EL dragon was slayed tonight! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </div><div> </div><div>Low lvl live folks trolling around for loot links, but no one would give it up <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  SEe you can trust us testers. </div><div> </div><div>But i do believe we are out of high lvl test folks to raid the Feer dragon at this point. </div>

[bcbroom]

<div></div>The cool thing is that not too long ago, killing *any* of the dragons would have been considered impossible and we would not have even been asked to try any of them.  Test has come a long way.  I would not be supprised if another dragon falls before the flags are cleared.

[Kadurm]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>masburrito wrote:<div>EL dragon was slayed tonight! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </div><div> </div><div>Low lvl live folks trolling around for loot links, but no one would give it up <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  SEe you can trust us testers. </div><div> </div><div>But i do believe we are out of high lvl test folks to raid the Feer dragon at this point. </div><hr></blockquote><p>Grats on the dragon slaying. Wish I was there to take part in all this, but the current tour has me neck deep in...well....notgonnasayit..</p><p>So at LEAST there is still one lvl 60 toon that hasnt slain a dragon in the event yet. ME!</p><p>GL to all those left.</p>

[Sunrayn]

<div></div><p>My apologies to Etoile, it was an arguement that should have never happened.</p><p>Congrats on the EL dragon.</p>

[EtoilePirate]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Sunrayn wrote:<div></div><p>My apologies to Etoile, it was an arguement that should have never happened.</p><p>Congrats on the EL dragon.</p><hr></blockquote>And my apologies as well; I tend to respond in no small way when something grates.</span></div>

[Kaknya]

 WelP.. the nek dragon is now history.. I believe all we have left on test now is the feerott one? Thanks to hordolin for the tank.. was one of the largest conjuror raids ive seen, heh..<div></div>

[Ce]

<div></div><p>At the rate of grindage going on at the Feerrott spire, we should have another alt army of 60's ready to go soon <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p> </p>

[Kaknya]

 HEH..<span>:smileyvery-happy:</span> that was put to an end yesterday.. logged in about 5:30-6pm est and feer's dragon is up.. lvl 60^^^<div></div>