Imbued ring changes

[bcbroom]

<div><div>Let me start off with...I understand the change from being able to equip/cast all the rings on yourself to only the ones you wear have effect.  Some people don't like this part of the change, but I understand that the rings were never intended to work this way.</div><div> </div><div>I also understand that the imbued rings alway on makes them better than fabled rings.  I havent seen numbers on this, but would not be suprised.</div><div> </div><div>What i'd like to see is some clarification as to how often the effect is supposed to be active. 1-3% seems incredibly low, especially since these dont proc off of autoattack, but CA/spell casting.  At 3% per cast, you are looking at 15 spells to get a 50/50 chance of the proc.</div><div> </div><div>If the effect duration is going to be less than an average encounter, I'd like to see the proc rate where it should go off in an average encounter. (I think the rate would have to be 10-20% for this)</div><div> </div><div>If the effect was changed to longer duration, I think you could get buy with a lower proc rate, but it is a difficult balancing act.</div><div> </div><div>As it stands, several people on test who had the rings did not see them proc *at all* ... they are close to being worthless at this point.</div></div>

[imbitten]

<div>my references to this were made in this thread</div><div> </div><div><a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=tpriv&message.id=3970" target="_blank">http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=tpriv&message.id=3970</a></div><div> </div>

[bcbroom]

<div></div><p>I've read the reasoning behind the changes (posted somewhere else) and am ok with the way they were being overpowered.  Having said that, i really wish more had been comunicated about what was going on.  Many people assumed that with the 'no recast' change that that was it (there was no indication of more changes.)  I was about to have one made myself.</p><p>As far as suggestions...I think the combination of low proc rate and short time isn't very effective.  I'll try to collect some numbers on the couple i do have.  From a soloists standpoint, I would like to have something with a decent chance to be useful (ie proc, or be active from an earlier proc) every encounter (maybe every other...less frequent than every 3rd and its really just to unpredictable).  If it is a low chance, i'd like it to be something that is effective for a few encountes, or long enough for me to quickly run over to that harder mob and take him out while I have a bonus.</p><p>I think there should be something done for people who now have rare rings that they cannot use, because they dont posess the abilites to make it proc.  Can something be setup where people could trade in a ring and get their spell rare back?</p>

[Kuulei]

<div></div><div></div>Sad part about this, it was merely t6 rings that were thought to be 'overpowered'Now my t2 rings,  I need to proc them for +3 wisdom? That is so laughable since there are rings out there with more wisdom.I only wore 2 rings, I never switched them out, one intellegence, one wisdom.  I would remember to cast them only when I was actually fighting something or raiding WHEN I wasn't too busy casting other spells <span>:smileyindifferent:The only way I could max my wisdom as a level 60 warden was with the buff from my ring.Now I will have lose some +power items and toss in more wisdom, in effect losing my pre-LU20 power poolI'd rather have a compromise, back to the old 24 minute buff <b>but the effect disappears if you remove the ring</b>.  This would prevent more than 2 buffs present at one time.  If it has to be kept as a proc, it <b><u>REALLY</u></b> needs to be more than 1-3%.With rare harvest so rare now and the time, effort and cost (cost pertaining to live servers) to get these rings made and turning them into a 1-3% chance to proc for 45 seconds... makes jewelers cringe and customers scoff at the idea of wearing something that is playermade but almost useless.Perhaps you know there are bigger and better items out there and upcoming in KoS, many don't know whats coming and all I know is my power pool will shrink more and more as I strive to level in the new expansion because more and more wisdom will be needed to maintain an effective pool.You have to remember, not everyone is going to see fabled gear, in fact I am pretty sure much of your player base will never see more than a few low-level items currently available.  I have 1 fabled item, thats it.  I wear it because its fabled and I am proud of it and not because its actually the best item for me to have equipped.  Those few that complained the rings were overpowered lied.  They only complained when you made the buffs permanant because they couldn't buff with thier rings then toss their fabled ones back on and still have the buff and by a fluke, if you had 2 of the same ring such as 2 stamina rings, they stacked after they had made the buffs permanant now <b>that</b> was way overpowered.</span><div></div><p>Message Edited by Kuulei on <span class="date_text">02-09-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:28 PM</span></p>

[Sunrayn]

<div></div><p>I have...errrr...had an imbued agility ring and an imbued wis ring.  Bought them to bolster those stats a bit.</p><p>Agility ring is still worth....something...to me as I do use CAs when I fight...Oddly enough, I havent found a single benificial spell on my hotbar or in my book that I can spam to  trigger the wisdom ring.</p><p>Of course, not finding a benificial spell in my book may be due to me being a Guardian.</p><p>Wonder if the developers forgot that wisdom increases your resists?</p>

[Joren_Wolfheart]

The new imbued ring system isn't half bad.  However, on my 25 Paladin, playing MT, I have yet to see the proc go off.  And I've played him every day since the patch.  Perhaps a small boost to the proc rate?<div></div>

[bcbroom]

<div></div><p>I've only seen the new rings for t3, but here how they breakdown now</p><p>Old ring</p><ul><li>ring itself was +2 wis and other stats/resists</li><li>imbue effect was +5 wis (both the cast 20min and always on)</li></ul><p>New ring</p><ul><li>+7wis for the ring, but no other (or minimal) stats/resists</li><li>proc for additional +5wis and +to ordination, etc skills</li></ul><p>So it looks like the net effect is that the Wis ring is as good for wis as it was before, with a chance to be a little better. My only concern is that I'm not sure what effect on power the proc gives to a priest.  +5 wis gives extra power, but does it change MAX power, Available power, or some combination (like your % of power stays the same).  Also, what happens when the proc goes away.</p><p>What I would LIKE to see is that when the proc goes off, your available power goes up with your new max (remember you are in combat now, so just increasing the max is useless), and when the buff goes away, you do not loose available power.  I haven't had a chance to see how this actually works yet, but will try to test it tonight.</p><p>Also, I'm still not sold on the proc rates for the casting rings compated to the proc on melee rings, but need to see how often they are hapening.</p>

[imbitten]

<div></div>took my 15 /16 troubadour out with one agi ring, did not use ho's and chained combat arts killed 30 mobs even / blue cons did not get one proc from ring