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tesarei
11-21-2005, 01:30 AM
<DIV>Ok at first i didnt rely mind the not haveing to go get the shard and could live with the additional penalty you get.</DIV> <DIV>after playing with it for a while i have decided i dont like it and here is my resoning on it. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>there is now nolonger any debt decay.</DIV> <DIV>this makes raids verry costly to exp as that is where i die the most and dont realy get any exp from.</DIV> <DIV>this would be ok if we still had they debt decay. But for some reason with this change in where we get more debt then if we died and were able able to go back and absorb our shard we get no decay on debt.  so this makes the penalty worse in two ways. one its larger (which i can handle dont like but can handle) and 2 it dosent decay. this make it so i dont want to go out and adventure the next day dont want to do quest as im buring up my vitality and quest exp just to clear off debt. if im doing this solo or in a small group this can take days or at least the majority of the day. i dont like it at all. and think that at least the decay of the debt exp should be put back in.</DIV>

Evadne
11-21-2005, 02:00 AM
I agree, the loss of debt decay can be more crippling than having to get a shard. Added to vitality anxieties the end result is not more challenge, just more unfun. <div></div>

madbx
11-21-2005, 02:13 AM
<P>I dont mind the increased debt  as previously the exp debt was trivial and recovering the shard was really all that mattered, however as others have mentioned removal of debt decay is very frustrating.</P> <P>There is absolutly nothing worse that logging in the following day and seeing that you still have a large ammount of debt to work off.... it just takes away your will to go and exp and makes playing no fun.</P> <P>That being said not having to recover shards is a plus... but maybe it makes things too simple.</P> <P>-Nelib</P> <P>Warlock FTW</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

Zindicatt
11-21-2005, 04:29 AM
Yeah after a raid last night, Kwoung got 10% debt (5 deaths).  That is pretty harsh with no debt decay.  Recovering a shard can be fun and challenging.   But more grind to get off debt isn't.  I favor the old system for this reason. 

Agathorn
11-21-2005, 05:22 AM
Are we SURE there is no longer debt decay? When the new system went live I remember Sephiro saying in chat that he thought the standard decay system was still in place.

Agathorn
11-21-2005, 06:22 AM
Guys, debt decay seems to be working for me. I was at 8% debt when the new system went live, after dying a few times to test. And I have been mostly offline the entire time since due to work. Just logged on and have 1% debt.

goboy
11-21-2005, 09:45 PM
<DIV>Let me say, as someone who is used to dying multiple times a day, I now think twice about dying.  I do see debt decay working, but the 2% is harsh and adds up fast.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I would prefer:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Leave the shard and old debt values.</DIV> <DIV>Add an NPC somewhere in the zone (or cities) that will summon your shard - but at a 2% debt.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Give me a choice in other words.</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV>

Shantee
11-22-2005, 12:47 AM
3 death during a raid 6% debt.  Took awhile to work off the debt.  It's to much. <div></div>

Zindicatt
11-25-2005, 01:30 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> goboy wrote:<BR> <DIV>Let me say, as someone who is used to dying multiple times a day, I now think twice about dying.  I do see debt decay working, but the 2% is harsh and adds up fast.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I would prefer:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Leave the shard and old debt values.</DIV> <DIV>Add an NPC somewhere in the zone (or cities) that will summon your shard - but at a 2% debt.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Give me a choice in other words.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>That's a great idea.  Options are good.<BR>

Jshail
11-25-2005, 07:47 PM
<P>I personally would like to keep the old system.  2% debt per death is a bit much.  With the old system after recovering a shard we i only had 1% debt to still work off.  If you are going to kep the new system please reduce the xp Dept to about the same as what it would be after recovering a shard (perhaps it is but doesn't seem like it)</P> <P> </P> <P>Also if you are going to keep the new system then you need to change the Vetran Rewards.  As the wand of shard recovery is now a useless item.</P>

Igr
11-29-2005, 11:20 PM
<P>Igram here,</P> <P><SPAN>I have passed this thread and the following, <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=testfeed&message.id=34250" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=testfeed&message.id=34250</A>, up the chain in the QA Department. Thank you for providing constructive feedback in regards on how this change may impact players more during certain situations (such as raiding).</SPAN></P>