Exile is to EASY!!

[THEWELL]

<DIV> <DIV>When exile was 1st introduced, it was suppose to be a difficult to exile and stay exiled.  Was suppose to be penality's for being exile.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You have made exile way to easy, and pretty much ruined any chances of decent FP or Qeynos guilds to compete.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1. Exiles get the privledge of having all classes available to to them.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2. Now you give them the choice to be able to pick ANY Diety to follow?   [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>They shouldn't be allowed to follow any Diety.  They are exiled.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lets make raiding even easier for them and ruin the populations on the Qeynos sides even more.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Exile was suppose to be a difficult process, and now they have it better then both Qeynos and Freeport!!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This needs to be looked at.</DIV></DIV>

[Findara]

How does my me not wanting to follow any city figure into me following the god of my choice?You all say we have it too easy, just because we have all the gods, wow look at the rest of the things we DONT get.<div></div>

[Bootstwadd]

<div></div><div></div>Yes, it's easy in PvE.  So?  Big deal. Any class?  Nope.  You can't start as an Exile...and you can't stay and exile after you finish your betrayal.  Have I mentioned that every skill reset to App 1?  Unless you're low level that's pretty expensive.  AND...Exiles pay more for repairs in Haven.  They only have to live with one slot for selling on the broker.  They only have to have that same broker charge more..  They only have to sneak into a city to get to Sinking Sands.  Nobody'll take their status items.  They can't access Shared Banks. So what?  You can go into Exile too.  Go ahead.  Big deal we can worship any God we want.  YAY!  You get to use two god skills an hour.  By the way, exiles can only finish one of the two Innoruuk or Tunare quests just like everybody else. It's a role playing thing for me...and honestly there are few benefits...other than the music (which rocks) and having the TS area to yourself. <div></div><p>Message Edited by Boombahyay due to Beer on <span class="date_text">11-09-2006</span> <span class="time_text">10:01 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Boombahyay on <span class=date_text>11-09-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:02 PM</span>

[ke'la]

Cross posting is against forum rule pick one forum and just post there.

[THEWELL]

<P>It was never suppose to be easy to exile.  But with the way things are.  </P> <P>The raid guilds that are exile are pretty much the same as any blue server raid guild.  How are qeynos and freeport suppose to compete with that?</P> <P>So you get the advantages of being a blue server guild, on a pvp server.</P> <P>You wanna keep the perks.  Fine.  I got a simple solution.  </P> <P>NO GUILDS FOR EXILE.</P>

[THEWELL]

<DIV>So basicly exile gets to farm the best gear in the game.  Cause they have all classes to work with and all diety's.  Then they get to trash everyone in PVP because of the fabled gear they get from raids.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On nagafen, I don't think a single contested has ever been killed by anyone other then an Exiled guild.  Freeport may have gotten a few.  But I know Qeynos hasn't.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Basiclly due to no brigands. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Qeynos gets the best tank and healer diety.  If they allowed only qeynos to use the good diety's.  This would somewhat level out the playing field for not having the Brigand class.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But with exiles getting it as well.  They have better then both FP and Qeynos once again.</DIV>

[THEWELL]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Findarato wrote:<BR>How does my me not wanting to follow any city figure into me following the god of my choice?<BR><BR>You all say we have it too easy, just because we have all the gods, wow look at the rest of the things we DONT get.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>If your not alligned with a good or evil city.  Why should you be allowed to allign with a good or evil diety?</P> <P>Fine...let them have Neutral Diety's only.</P>

[Sphiriah]

Too is your friend.<div></div>

[Dessellion4]

If we're talking about the return of the gods could people please stop spelling it DIETY - the word's DEITY !!!

[Fellindar]

Yeah I know! How annoying is it when people spell diety as deity - lol joke I know how to spell really.<div></div>

[Zenith]

<P>The OP has no idea what he's talking about... others have pointed out why. I have no idea why he thinks exiles have fabled raining down from the heavens to them... perhaps the trolls shouls go become and exile and see how "easy" it is for himself.</P>

[THEWELL]

<DIV>Yes, they do have fabled raining down.  Just as much as any other guild on a blue server.  IDK bout your server, but on ours the exile guilds have killed every named / contested.   And are the top and pretty much only raid guild.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>FP can't stop them on contested, and Qeynos can't even come close.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So yes, they do have fabled raining down.  Cause no one can compete with being able to have access to all classes.  And now the deity thing makes em even stronger.</DIV>

[Kaleyen]

I'm such an uber exile I can one shot rangers too! True story <div></div>

[Oidan]

I think everyone should just exile and have 1 faction that can use all classes and finally make the server FFA pvp. That will end all bickering.

[Rast]

You have to remember his argument is about PvP...  And quite frankly NOTHING should alter the PvE servers for 'balance' on the PvP ones.  Sorry.

[THEWELL]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raston wrote:<BR> You have to remember his argument is about PvP...  And quite frankly NOTHING should alter the PvE servers for 'balance' on the PvP ones.  Sorry.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>You are correct.  This is only on pvp servers.  And should not effect PVE at all.

[Spider]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ZenTouma wrote:<BR> <P>The OP has no idea what he's talking about... others have pointed out why. I have no idea why he thinks exiles have fabled raining down from the heavens to them... perhaps the trolls shouls go become and exile and see how "easy" it is for himself.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>i think its rather obvious that you dont play on a pvp server

[kenm]

<div><blockquote><hr>THEWELL wrote:<div></div> <div>Yes, they do have fabled raining down.  Just as much as any other guild on a blue server.  IDK bout your server, but on ours the exile guilds have killed every named / contested.   And are the top and pretty much only raid guild.</div><hr></blockquote>First off, PvP sucks.Second, somebody killed the Matron on your server?</div>

[Spider]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> kenman wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> THEWELL wrote:<BR> <DIV>Yes, they do have fabled raining down.  Just as much as any other guild on a blue server.  IDK bout your server, but on ours the exile guilds have killed every named / contested.   And are the top and pretty much only raid guild.</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>First off, PvP sucks.<BR>Second, somebody killed the Matron on your server?<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>wow arnt you the eloquint one  ! lol just because you dont have the big brassy's do hang on a pvp server does not by any means make it suck my friend  even if its not your bag of tea  its still extreemely fun and chalanging and it takes 100x more effort and skill to simply lvl on a pvp server let alone raid and quest and everything else so keep your rather odious oppinion to your self thank you very much and since this thread has absoloutly NO bearing on you whatsoever take your self to another thread because your not wanted or needed here

[kenm]

This thread doesn't even belong in this forum to begin with.  Last I checked the test server wasn't PvP enabled.<div></div>

[THEWELL]

<DIV>Yep..but seems best way to get dev attention so it will be looked at.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And sorry MO is the only mob not killed on our server.  But pvp servers are much newer then blue servers.</DIV>

[Qwestionator]

We dont have access to pvp gear, this alone stopped me from exiling for months and it still hurts when i look at the pvp gear just sitting in my bank.  We give up having a large player pool to zerg with at Contested and we give up pvp rewards - you also lose titles - why should exile be harder than any one faction?  Its just another way to play the game, who said its supposed to be uber hardcorezorz?<div></div>

[THEWELL]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Qwestionator wrote:<BR>We dont have access to pvp gear, this alone stopped me from exiling for months and it still hurts when i look at the pvp gear just sitting in my bank.  We give up having a large player pool to zerg with at Contested and we give up pvp rewards - you also lose titles - why should exile be harder than any one faction?  Its just another way to play the game, who said its supposed to be uber hardcorezorz?<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>You dont' have access to pvp gear. Yet you dominate all raids due to both classes and now both deity's.</P> <P>How many pieces of pvp gear are actually 60+</P> <P>How many Fabled T7 raid pieces are 60+</P> <P>You still fill a full raid guild.  And if its so difficult you wanna explain why Exile guilds dominate Raids and contested on EVERY PVP SERVER?</P> <P>It was stated in the notes that exile was suppose to be a difficult decision with drawbacks.  I have yet to see any drawback other then repair costs.</P>

[Qwestionator]

<div><blockquote><hr>THEWELL wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Qwestionator wrote:We dont have access to pvp gear, this alone stopped me from exiling for months and it still hurts when i look at the pvp gear just sitting in my bank.  We give up having a large player pool to zerg with at Contested and we give up pvp rewards - you also lose titles - why should exile be harder than any one faction?  Its just another way to play the game, who said its supposed to be uber hardcorezorz? <div></div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>You dont' have access to pvp gear. Yet you dominate all raids due to both classes and now both deity's.</p> <p>How many pieces of pvp gear are actually 60+</p> <p>How many Fabled T7 raid pieces are 60+</p> <p>You still fill a full raid guild.  And if its so difficult you wanna explain why Exile guilds dominate Raids and contested on EVERY PVP SERVER?</p> <p>It was stated in the notes that exile was suppose to be a difficult decision with drawbacks.  I have yet to see any drawback other then repair costs.</p><hr></blockquote>one drawback that comes to mind is.... less people to talk to imo</div>

[beliker]

(pvp server view point here, whats this pve you speak of?)Thats one of the main reasons I never went exile, unless your 70 and in a giant raiding guild, life would be very very lonely indeed, would almost be like playing a one player game on extreme diffuculty. Thats is not being lvl 70 and in a raid guild, if you think a lvl 10-50 exile has it easy your smoking crack.I don't even plan to raid, accually i REFUSE to raid, but I would like to exile if it was a bit more friendly to the non lvl 70 people, maybe by giving us something to strive for, I don't give two [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]s about titles, or raiding, so as lets say I exile at 50, what exactly do I have to strive for? So I pvp like I do now, which is 95% of the time im online, I have no rewards to strife for, so theres no carrot there, like there is now. Sure I would need to double my current kills (college sucks, 2 hours a night to play maybe), but the goal is there sometime in the forseeable future.<div></div>