one more reason to not like how sony does beta

[Riversideblues]

so looks like me and a few members of my guild can't zone into Mystic Lake...wanna see why?<img src="http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l282/riversideblues7/NewBitmapImage2.jpg">seriously, cleared my cache zonefiles, all that [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn], and now a bunch of us can't get in<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Winter]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Riversideblues wrote:<BR>so looks like me and a few members of my guild can't zone into Mystic Lake...<BR><BR><BR><BR>wanna see why?<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><IMG src="http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l282/riversideblues7/NewBitmapImage2.jpg"><BR><BR><BR><BR>seriously, cleared my cache zonefiles, all that [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn], and now a bunch of us can't get in<BR><BR><img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff0099 size=3>Ummm... wha?</FONT>

[Nulad]

right... because as a beta tester you're not there to find and report these bugs at all are you, no of course not, you're there to play and [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] and moan when something goes wrong.The funny thing is that your thread title is actually very apt considering. Ironic that <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Nul.<div></div>

[Elorah]

<P>Being as Beta doesnt start until the 20th, I think that the OP's point ist hat he isnt even IN the beta and having these difficulties...</P> <P> </P>

[Nulad]

<div><blockquote><hr>Elorah wrote:<div></div> <p>Being as Beta doesnt start until the 20th, I think that the OP's point ist hat he isnt even IN the beta and having these difficulties...</p> <hr></blockquote>That just makes it even more stupid.  Beta isn't just something that turns on when the game loads, it's the whole process including patching and logging in.  Maybe the OP should wait until beta is live before maoning about not being able to log in.Nul.</div>

[Tanit]

<blockquote><hr>Nuladen wrote:<div>That just makes it even more stupid.  Beta isn't just something that turns on when the game loads, it's the whole process including patching and logging in.  Maybe the OP should wait until beta is live before maoning about not being able to log in.</div><hr></blockquote>He means mystic lake on the live servers, not beta.<div></div>

[Scarrlette]

I have no clue what this is about, but I just gave a shout to those that handle this sort of thing.  Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

[Nulad]

<div><blockquote><hr>Tanith_ wrote:<blockquote><hr>Nuladen wrote:<div>That just makes it even more stupid.  Beta isn't just something that turns on when the game loads, it's the whole process including patching and logging in.  Maybe the OP should wait until beta is live before maoning about not being able to log in.</div><hr></blockquote>He means mystic lake on the live servers, not beta.<div></div><hr></blockquote>In which case he should have been clearer, either that or I should wake up <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Nul.</div>

[Maroger]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Elorah wrote:<BR> <P>Being as Beta doesnt start until the 20th, I think that the OP's point ist hat he isnt even IN the beta and having these difficulties...</P> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>What does the OP's post have to do with beta -- nothing as far as I can see.</P> <P>He should run a full file Scan check to see if he has corrupted files -- the checker will download any missing or corrupted files.</P> <P>He is screaming pointlessly!!</P> <P><BR> </P>

[Saihung23]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Scarrlette wrote:<BR> I have no clue what this is about, but I just gave a shout to those that handle this sort of thing.  Thanks for bringing it to our attention.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Hrmm...lets see  [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]</P> <P>I bet that got haxxored....</P> <P>How about omgwtf</P> <P>or how about omgwtfbbq</P> <P> </P> <P>thought so....you cant say [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] but you can say omgwtf....or omgwtfbbq....hrmmm....I think somethings wrong with that logic.</P> <P>just testing something here</P><p>Message Edited by Saihung23 on <span class=date_text>09-19-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:46 AM</span>

[Geekyone]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Nuladen wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tanith_ wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Nuladen wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR>That just makes it even more stupid.  Beta isn't just something that turns on when the game loads, it's the whole process including patching and logging in.  Maybe the OP should wait until beta is live before maoning about not being able to log in.<BR></DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>He means mystic lake on the live servers, not beta.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>In which case he should have been clearer, either that or I should wake up <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR><BR>Nul.<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>or stop being so rude right away....

[Nulad]

I wasn't being rude, I was being sarcastic.Difficult to get across sometime I know <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Nul.<div></div>

[Terabethia]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Nuladen wrote:<BR>I wasn't being rude, I was being sarcastic.<BR><BR>Difficult to get across sometime I know <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR><BR>Nul.<BR><BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><FONT color=#33ccff>I would say that you are being both...</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#33ccff>Either way, I agree that this really has little to do with Beta. Expecially since beta hasn't begun yet. If you can not log into Mystic Lake, you need to /bug report it, and then petition to see if they can help. How do you even know that the reason you can't get in is because of those "missing" EoF files? The two could be completely unrelated.</FONT> <BR></P>

[Nulad]

Well I certainly didn't mean to be rude and will apologise for it coming across that way <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Nul.<div></div>

[MalicorDraven]

Re-read his message peeps.  He said more than one person could not get in.  If true, it would indicate the problem is not related to his system, settings, or files.

[SgtPmpkn]

This has happened numerous times in the last few patches.  I for one was locked out of the GAME for 4-5 days due to GU25 or 26 leaking EoF files into the batch.  Alot of people who get these files cause their client to crash or not be able to zone in certain zones due to they are being directed to these filepaths that do not exist yet on live servers.  As such, zones become unavailable or in my case the whole game would not load properly.  It was cleared by a patch 4 days after that GU, and I was able to get back into the game.  Very frustrating.

[Hamervelder]

<div><blockquote><hr>SgtPmpkn wrote:<div></div>This has happened numerous times in the last few patches.  I for one was locked out of the GAME for 4-5 days due to GU25 or 26 leaking EoF files into the batch.  Alot of people who get these files cause their client to crash or not be able to zone in certain zones due to they are being directed to these filepaths that do not exist yet on live servers.  As such, zones become unavailable or in my case the whole game would not load properly.  It was cleared by a patch 4 days after that GU, and I was able to get back into the game.  Very frustrating.<hr></blockquote>Add to that the recurring problems where people can't access any adventure pack/expansion zones since LU27.  This has been bugged, but still pops up.  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[Ixnay]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Saihung23 wrote:<div></div> <div></div><p>Hrmm...lets see  [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]</p> <p>I bet that got haxxored....</p> <p>How about omgwtf</p> <p>or how about omgwtfbbq</p> <p>thought so....you cant say [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] but you can say omgwtf....or omgwtfbbq....hrmmm....I think somethings wrong with that logic.</p> <p>just testing something here</p><hr></blockquote>Just a thought - but how about you stop trying to make a cute reply in every post on this board like a five year old, and allow people to post about problems they are having with this game without your completely unnecessary and wasteful input.Thank you for your support.I'm also having this exact same problem.Let's this straight:  we aren't in beta.  5 or 6 of us are crashing at EXACTLY the same MILISECOND, and then we are chain crashing when we try to get back into game.  Yes, 3 to 5 people in the same raid getting a client application crash at the same time, this is not LD, and has nothing to do with the Internet.  This is the EQ2 client crashing in Windows, with a Windows error message, when the server does something server side.Same crash trying to load back in, or the game crashing after we log in for between 1 and 60 seconds.How to temporarily fix this problem is to pray like hell that you can stay in game long enough to gate.  If you can gate out of the zone you started having this problem in, the problem will mysteriously stop for a short period of time in the new zone you've entered.  BUT, then the problem will start up again just as suddenly, and you are once again in the same situaiton.To repeat, this problem didn't just happen in Mystic Lake, it also happened in Deathtoll, and in East Freeport.Please check this out asap - the server is crashing our clients, and there is zero other explanation for this.I guarantee this problem is server side, because I can log the same character in on three different computers after this happens, and the same chain crash thing happens repeatedly.  Yet I can play other toons on each of the same accounts and computers fine at that same time - it is just the one toon that I was on when the problem started will continue having problems regardless of which other computer I load that toon on - so this has zero to do with my computers and software, and everything to do with your servers.</div><p>Message Edited by Ixnay on <span class=date_text>09-19-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:12 AM</span>

[Ixnay]

<div></div><div>...</div><p>Message Edited by Ixnay on <span class=date_text>09-19-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:00 AM</span>

[Riversideblues]

it's serversidebeta isnt even live yetim not in betait ruined our nightkthx <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Terabethia]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Ixnay wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Terabethia wrote:<BR> <BR> <P><FONT color=#33ccff>Either way, I agree that this really has little to do with Beta. Expecially since beta hasn't begun yet. If you can not log into Mystic Lake, you need to /bug report it, and then petition to see if they can help. How do you even know that the reason you can't get in is because of those "missing" EoF files? The two could be completely unrelated.</FONT><BR></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Why do you respond to things when you have zero idea what you are talking about?  I mean really, next time you want to make a point, you should go sharpen a pencil instead.<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><FONT color=#33ccff>Wow, way to be completely 100% rude and disrespectful. All I stated is that this does not have to do with BETA specifically. Which is apparent by the fact that beta has not even begun. How can something that doesn't exist effect you?? </FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#33ccff>I didn't say you don't have a problem. I didn't say you are crazy and not having the problems that you see. I said that I don't see a relation between your problem and EoF Beta. I am simply suggesting that the two do not seem to connect, and that there is probably something else going on entirely. Seems to me that it is YOU who do not know what you are talking about. And as such, you jump on anyone who didn't come to your conclusion. Heaven forbid there be an alternative solution to the problem... If you don't want help, don't ask for it.</FONT><BR></P> <P><FONT color=#66ff99>EDIT - One more <STRONG><EM>helpful </EM></STRONG>peice of advise. This thread has nothing to do with the test server, and doesn't below here. It needs to be moved over to the Tech Help fourm where they can actually look at the problem for help and ideas, and may even already know of a solution.</FONT> </P><p>Message Edited by Terabethia on <span class=date_text>09-19-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:30 AM</span>

[Aandien]

<DIV>if its only happening to some chars.....the good news is, it probably means those characters are beta-flagged even though you may not know it yet <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Ixnay]

<div><blockquote><hr>AncientElster wrote:<div>if its only happening to some chars.....the good news is, it probably means those characters are beta-flagged even though you may not know it yet <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><hr></blockquote>A good thought - but, in the past, they never flagged individual characters, they issued a code you could use on any account.  You'd enter the code just like a new expansion.  From trying to resolve this problem for over eight hours last night, I honestly believe it has bugged my character, and is not related to the other characters on my account.  Seems that way anyway.</div>

[Ixnay]

<div><blockquote><hr>Terabethia wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <p><font color="#33ccff">Wow, way to be completely 100% rude and disrespectful. All I stated is that this does not have to do with BETA specifically. Which is apparent by the fact that beta has not even begun. How can something that doesn't exist effect you?? </font></p> <p><font color="#33ccff">I didn't say you don't have a problem. I didn't say you are crazy and not having the problems that you see. I said that I don't see a relation between your problem and EoF Beta. I am simply suggesting that the two do not seem to connect, and that there is probably something else going on entirely. Seems to me that it is YOU who do not know what you are talking about. And as such, you jump on anyone who didn't come to your conclusion. Heaven forbid there be an alternative solution to the problem... If you don't want help, don't ask for it.</font></p> <p><font color="#66ff99">EDIT - One more <strong><em>helpful </em></strong>peice of advise. This thread has nothing to do with the test server, and doesn't below here. It needs to be moved over to the Tech Help fourm where they can actually look at the problem for help and ideas, and may even already know of a solution</font> </p><p><span class="date_text"></span><span class="time_text"></span></p><hr></blockquote>You continue to try and explain how this problem isn't related to something when you really have no idea what you are talking about. As shown in the big, huge, page dominating graphic posted by the OP, the server is trying to push files that don't exist to Windows, which is creating unhandled exception errors and causing the EQ2 software application to bug Windows and then crash.  And it seems to be happening only with certain characters and not others, oddly.The files involved are clearly beta files - please read the file names in the large graphic posted by the OP.  So this has 100% to do with EoF beta.  I'd appreciate if you could educate yourself before reaching conclusions based on situations you don't understand.Thank you for your support.</div>

[Ixnay]

<div><blockquote><hr>Terabethia wrote:<div></div> <div></div><p><font color="#66ff99">EDIT - One more <strong><em>helpful </em></strong>peice of advise. This thread has nothing to do with the test server, and doesn't below here. It needs to be moved over to the Tech Help fourm where they can actually look at the problem for help and ideas, and may even already know of a solution.</font> </p><p>Message Edited by Terabethia on <span class="date_text">09-19-2006</span> <span class="time_text">08:30 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>A little advice to you also.  It is true that this forum is for the Test server, and had I personally started this post, I probably would have started it in a different forum.  But you don't play on the Test server either, so since this forum is for things involving the Test server and you say this doesn't involve the Test server, perhaps you should follow your own advice.BTW, since this bug has gone live, I guarantee it is also affecting the Test server at this time, since it couldn't have just bypassed the Test server altogether and gone live without also being on the Test server.  So this bug does in fact affect the Test server in addition to the live servers, so it is on topic for this forum.Thank you</div>

[Saihung23]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Ixnay wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Saihung23 wrote:<BR> <P><BR>Hrmm...lets see  [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]</P> <P>I bet that got haxxored....</P> <P>How about omgwtf</P> <P>or how about omgwtfbbq</P> <P> </P> <P>thought so....you cant say [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] but you can say omgwtf....or omgwtfbbq....hrmmm....I think somethings wrong with that logic.</P> <P>just testing something here</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=#ffff00>Just a thought - but how about you stop trying to make a cute reply in every post on this board like a five year old, and allow people to post about problems they are having with this game without your completely unnecessary and wasteful input.<BR><BR>Thank you for your support.<BR></FONT><BR>I'm also having this exact same problem.<BR><BR>Let's this straight:  we aren't in beta.  5 or 6 of us are crashing at EXACTLY the same MILISECOND, and then we are chain crashing when we try to get back into game.  Yes, 3 to 5 people in the same raid getting a client application crash at the same time, this is not LD, and has nothing to do with the Internet.  This is the EQ2 client crashing in Windows, with a Windows error message, when the server does something server side.<BR><BR>Same crash trying to load back in, or the game crashing after we log in for between 1 and 60 seconds.<BR><BR>How to temporarily fix this problem is to pray like hell that you can stay in game long enough to gate.  If you can gate out of the zone you started having this problem in, the problem will mysteriously stop for a short period of time in the new zone you've entered.  BUT, then the problem will start up again just as suddenly, and you are once again in the same situaiton.<BR><BR>To repeat, this problem didn't just happen in Mystic Lake, it also happened in Deathtoll, and in East Freeport.<BR><BR>Please check this out asap - the server is crashing our clients, and there is zero other explanation for this.<BR><BR>I guarantee this problem is server side, because I can log the same character in on three different computers after this happens, and the same chain crash thing happens repeatedly.  Yet I can play other toons on each of the same accounts and computers fine at that same time - it is just the one toon that I was on when the problem started will continue having problems regardless of which other computer I load that toon on - so this has zero to do with my computers and software, and everything to do with your servers.<BR><BR><BR></DIV> <P>Message Edited by Ixnay on <SPAN class=date_text>09-19-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>08:12 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>well here is the deal pal...you think my reply is cute? How about I just take a screenshot and go around all the forum rules by insulting you in it?</P> <P>You can make a post and start a thread without being stupid and circumventing the forum rules...heck...it might keep me from posting "cute replies" like that one.</P> <P>I suggest next time you have a problem with a post of mine...go to a mod or PM me directly.</P> <P>Thank YOU for your support.</P> <P><BR> </P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P><STRONG><FONT color=#ffcc00>Edit: Enough bickering. We're looking into the problem.</FONT></STRONG></P><p>Message Edited by Moorgard on <span class=date_text>09-19-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:54 AM</span>