Alchemist tradeskill buffs bug - "Would not take effect"

[Didi]

<DIV>I made an alchemist on test to play with the new writs, and as I've been levelling up (now 26), I've noticed that quite often I get the message "Would not take effect" when I try to use one of my tradeskill buffs.  It doesn't seem to be tied to any one buff, but when it happens, it seems to happen with the first buff I use in a new round (*edit*: often, but not always).  I'm seeing it every 1-2 items I make, at least once.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I've never played an alchemist on a live server so I don't know if this is an alchemist thing or a test server thing.  I HAVE played many other crafting classes to tier 4 or higher, and NEVER seen this happen before with carpenter, tailor, jeweller, weaponsmith, or provisioner.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Can any other alchemists on test or on live confirm if this is normal, or just a test server thing, or possibly a bug introduced recently?  </DIV> <P>Edit again:  I've caught a couple examples on FRAPS and it seems to happen most when I switch between sets of buffs -- e.g. 1-2-3 progress buffs, then switch to 1-2-3 durability buffs.  Possibly something to do with the buff from one tier not properly overwriting the buff from another tier?</P><p>Message Edited by Didi on <span class=date_text>08-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:24 AM</span>

[Lilj]

<P>It's not on live, only on test so far. As far as I know it's when you try to use a 'lower' tier buff while a higher tier buff is still running.</P> <P>It is not a bug and it's not an alchemist thing. It is in fact a help to us, since we could press the buff, but it didn't work. Now the game 'prevent' us from doing that and warns us.</P> <P> </P><p>Message Edited by Liljna on <span class=date_text>08-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:24 AM</span>

[Didi]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Liljna wrote: <P>It is not a bug and it's not an alchemist thing. It is in fact a help to us, since we could press the buff, but it didn't work. Now the game 'prevent' us from doing that and warns us.</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Hmm ... has that been confirmed anywhere, that it always didn't work, just didn't warn us?</P> <P>There have been a couple of occasions when I've had to counter an event, and I pressed the correct key and got the "would not take effect" message, and the event was not countered.  Yet, I don't recall failing to counter events in that way on live server (without a message of course, but just not countering).  Granted, I haven't been watching as closely, but it just feels different, as if something's acting differently than it had before.  If there is a post with more details of this somewhere I'd appreciate a link so I can understand better.</P> <P>I find it extremely irritating; the new buffs should simply overwrite the old ones, that would be much preferable.<BR></P>

[Lilj]

<DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=general_tradeskill&message.id=114971&query.id=152838#M114971" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=general_tradeskill&message.id=114971&query.id=152838#M114971</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Didi]

<P>Thank you <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Guess I missed it since there was no 'official' names posting about it.</P> <P>I still don't like the way it works, but at least that clarifies a bit exactly how it's working.</P> <P> </P>

[Calthine]

<DIV>Yep, that's bee that way since LU 13 - Lesser Arts will not queue up behind better arts of the same icon, but on Live they appear to go off and have no effect.  Confusing, and has caused no end of debate on the Tradeskill forum.  The change here on Test is that not only does the lesser art no longer appear to go off without effect, but you get a message telling you why it would not take effect.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/calthine/would_not_take_effect.jpg"></DIV> <DIV>Note the message in blue in my chat window. </DIV>