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Aela@Test
08-18-2006, 03:08 AM
<DIV> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99>I made a set of detailed /bug feedback on this, however wanted to post it here as well.</FONT></FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99></FONT></FONT></FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99>I did a set of combines and found the following.</FONT></FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99></FONT></FONT></FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99>The writ is timed, and you have a short period of time to finish it.  It's pretty tight, and have failed them about 30% of the time while making items near my level (level 40,41 crafter.. making 38-39 items).  </FONT></FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99></FONT></FONT></FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99>Did the following on my level 41 woodworker, level 10 Trob.</FONT></FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99></FONT></FONT></FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99>1)  First, I did a Apprentice Woodworker Writ:  It was level 20.  was asked to make 6 buckers (level 20).  It cost me 40s 32c.  The combines were grey, and I had little trouble with the time limit.  As a reward i got 20s 75c.  A loss of about 50%.  I also got 100 status, with 10 guild status.  </FONT></FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99></FONT></FONT></FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99>2)  I then did a Talented Apprentice Woodworker Writ.  It was level 24, and also grey combines.   It asked me to make some staffs (3) and some arrows (75).  This cost me 25s 92c.  I also got 20s 75c as well as 100 status for this combine.  </FONT></FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99></FONT></FONT></FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99>3)  I then did a Journeyman Woodworker Writ.  It was level 30, and had green combines.  I was asked to make 6 briarwood bucklers...  fuel cost of 1g 84s 32c.  As a reward, I got 1g 10s 59c.  This also gave me a loss in coin.  Again, time was not really an issue, and other then the loss of coin, nothing interesting up to this point.  (I also got 1000 status)</FONT></FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99></FONT></FONT></FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99>4)  Then I made an Advanced Journeyman Woodworker writ.  This is where it got interesting.  The writ was level 39 (I was 40th), and I was asked to make 75 throwing dagger (3 combines) and 3 bat totems.  When I made one bat totem combine I got 3 totems as a reward which updated all three needed totems (<FONT color=#ff3300>all writs ask for 6-7 items, I imagine this really wanted 9 totems, NOT THREE!!  This is a bug</FONT>).. plus the combine took one of the totem (as expected), however dropped two totems in my inv.  (another bug).  Keep in mind this is after giving me all three updates for the totem.  Due to this, I didn't have to do the other two combines... this quest was very easy on time, and I had no problem finishing it.  The throwing daggers went as expected, and I made 3 combines for my 75 daggers.  The entire cost of this attempt was 53s 76c (less then half the level 30 one!) and I got a reward of 6g 63s 55c (6x the reward of the level 30 writ).   The lower cost is due to the fact that the ammo only take 2 fuel and the totems only 4.  This lower fuel cost makes them much nicer the writs that ask for buckers/staves/wands...</FONT></FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99></FONT></FONT></FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99>5) I then repeated the level 39 writ few times to see if I always got the totems/ammo.  I was basically given  a combination of ammo, totems, or bows.  When given the bows, the cost was a lot higher.. but the reward was always 6. 63s.  I only got bows twice out of 8 other attempts.  When I leveled I hit 41, and the writs they gave me started to be level 40 instead of 39.  The level 40 writs asked for 6 buckers (t5), and cost me ~8g, but still only gave me 6g 63s (same as level 39).  I'm not sure if the reward is based on the writ level (i.e., Advanced Journeyman is always 6g..) or if it is based off the tier of the combines.... but I do know it doesn't take into account the fueled costs of the items you are making.</FONT></FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99></FONT></FONT></FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99>As is, it's only worthwhile to do writs at the level were you have a lot of items that are low costs for combines (i.e., woodworker’s level 38-39)..  level 30-32 or 40-42 writs are a  total loss of money it seems.  I don't know where they get the total reward for each tier.. is it a measure of the average cost of materials within that tier?  I have no idea.  But as it stands, it seems like it needs some work.</FONT></FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99></FONT></FONT></FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99>Right now, my woodworker is stuck on a level 40 writ.  She tried it 2 times, but hasn't been able to get past it.  She needs to make 6 level 41 items, and she can't get the combines to go quick enough to get it done in the time allowed (high blue and white combines are harder to finish).  So I decided it was a good time to stop.</FONT></FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99></FONT></FONT></FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99>That said, the faction reward seems screwy also.  doing the level 20 writ I got 100 status, 30 writ 1000 status, and 39 writ 1600 status most times..  Except for the time I was actually doing the writ when I leveled from 40 to 41.  That time I had a level 39 writ, and when I turned it in, it told me a I had a level 10 writ (I did not), and it gave me 1g for it and 100 status.  I think the fact I leveled confused it?  I'm not sure.  </FONT></FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99></FONT></FONT></FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99>Anyhow, I hope this info is helpful.  I know it's not answering a lot, but it's the data I pulled.  I also did /bug most of it, but it took multiple /bug reports to get it all in.</FONT></FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99></FONT></FONT></FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99>Aela MacBannon -  Mystic and Sage of Test</FONT></FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99></FONT></FONT></FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99>Alat-Seldi,  a test server guild</FONT></FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99></FONT></FONT></FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99></FONT></FONT></FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99>(Woodworker name:  Eriae)</FONT></FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99></FONT></FONT></FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99></FONT></FONT></FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99></FONT></FONT></FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffff99></FONT></FONT></FONT> </P></DIV>

Calthine
08-18-2006, 04:09 AM
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Aela@Test
08-18-2006, 04:48 AM
<DIV>i had actually ment to do that.  I'm not sure how i managed to post a new thread.</DIV>